[Stable Diffusion] Prompt Sharing and Learning Thread

fr34ky

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is there any way to actually search on that civitai site?? or is there just filtering by category
There is a filter and a category bar under the search box.


You still have to bang your head a lot to get results even with the checkpoints that are supposed to do the stuff they say, that's why you rarely will see a good blowjob picture for example.

Some styles are quite easy to get with any checkpoint, and some checkpoints are a little too hostile for porn, so at some point you have to compromise and see what thing is harder to get, usually the porn part is harder to get in a stylistic checkpoint than a style in a porn checkpoint.
 

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There is a filter and a category bar under the search box.


You still have to bang your head a lot to get results even with the checkpoints that are supposed to do the stuff they say, that's why you rarely will see a good blowjob picture for example.

Some styles are quite easy to get with any checkpoint, and some checkpoints are a little too hostile for porn, so at some point you have to compromise and see what thing is harder to get, usually the porn part is harder to get in a stylistic checkpoint than a style in a porn checkpoint.
I think the problem with generating porn is that it requires two (or more) humans to be in actual contact. This is something that SD inherently struggles with as it has no concept of how human bodies interact.
It's seen some pictures of that sort of thing, but it tends to get itself really confused and merges people into one another.

It's looking more and more like the best way to go is having trained models (LoRAs probably) for each position and / or type of intercourse and using those in addition to a model that handles nudity well.
 

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There is a filter and a category bar under the search box.


You still have to bang your head a lot to get results even with the checkpoints that are supposed to do the stuff they say, that's why you rarely will see a good blowjob picture for example.

Some styles are quite easy to get with any checkpoint, and some checkpoints are a little too hostile for porn, so at some point you have to compromise and see what thing is harder to get, usually the porn part is harder to get in a stylistic checkpoint than a style in a porn checkpoint.
There are blowjob specific checkpoints


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Mr-Fox

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Do you guys keep 2 or 3 SD tabs open in your browser to alternate different variations of prompts? For me that's key to keep tracking of things, I don't know if there is a more sophisticated way... Looking at the prompts from the pictures I generate is not the best, am I losing some kind of log function?
check out the scripts. I just learned about it by Naytahn in the URPM discord. You can use it to generate a grid with images comparing different parameters that you set ex prompt or step or CFG etc.

Prompt matrix
prompt_matrix-0000-2055154821-Masterpiece_best_quality_diner_on_the_side_of_desert_highway_sun...jpg
X/Y/Z plot (steps)
xyz_grid-0093-87412306-portrait_Swedish_model_nude_high_pony_tail_headband_low_camera_angle_in...png
X/Y/Z plot (Sampler)
xyz_grid-0094-87412306-portrait_Swedish_model_nude_high_pony_tail_headband_low_camera_angle_in...png
 

fr34ky

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There are blowjob specific checkpoints


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I tried them already, the interracial is decent, the other so so. I even tried one paizuri model a couple days ago and it was a total pain to use, not easy to get any results at all.

Most of the times the guys from the comments just copy and paste the prompts from the checkpoint creator and they call it a day.

I personally don't like to do that because it doesn't add anything, if I can't make my own ideas work with the checkpoint/lora, then it's not very useful/versatile.

Just saying that don't think you won't have to bang your head, making them work and making only 1 picture look good is not as easy as it seems, specially with that kind of poses.

I think the problem with generating porn is that it requires two (or more) humans to be in actual contact. This is something that SD inherently struggles with as it has no concept of how human bodies interact.
It's seen some pictures of that sort of thing, but it tends to get itself really confused and merges people into one another.

It's looking more and more like the best way to go is having trained models (LoRAs probably) for each position and / or type of intercourse and using those in addition to a model that handles nudity well.
When I said 'porn' I just meant erotic, nude hot poses, other than just standing pretty girls. Putting a sex picture together that looks alive is another monster, we will get there for sure, but it's really hard.
 

fr34ky

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check out the scripts. I just learned about it by Naytahn in the URPM discord. You can use it to generate a grid with images comparing different parameters that you set ex prompt or step or CFG etc.

Prompt matrix
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X/Y/Z plot (steps)
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X/Y/Z plot (Sampler)
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I use the scripts for generating that kind of grids, even tried the x/y/z scripts, they are good when you already have a concept and want to get the best looking picture for a final release.

What I meant is, sometimes I'm trying 2 different girls to see which one looks better using the same prompts. Or sometimes I'm using a girl and trying 2 different poses or body types at the same time, going from one to the other, the only way I could find is using 2 different tabs...

It's like going through 2 different branches...
 
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well, looks like this ain't for me folks... --xdeformers and --lowvram was not enough...
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I have a GPU with 3Gb of VRAM and I can generate images without problems (as long as I keep the resolution at 512x512 or its equivalent aspect ratio) The key is in the parameters of the 'webui.user.bat' file. Right-click and select 'Edit'. The content of the file will appear in the Windows notepad. Look for the line of code 'set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=' and after the equals sign write the following: "--medvram --opt-split-attention" without "". Save the file and run the .bat again. It works like this for me and I haven't had any problems, unless I want to raise the resolution to more than 512x512. I hope it helps you if you still haven't solved it.
 

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Who can find a black woman close to this prompt:
00041-460137421-beautiful black woman from Africa with (beautiful face) (((enormous breasts)))...png
Strangely I have such slim pickings, I can't even. And the end result is no where near what the prompt is suggesting. I.e. from time to time there are pretty ones, but nobody close to the prompt.
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Who can find a black woman close to this prompt:
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Strangely I have such slim pickings, I can't even. And the end result is no where near what the prompt is suggesting. I.e. from time to time there are pretty ones, but nobody close to the prompt.
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But she has like 8 fingers in each hand xD I'd rather bang your 5 finger girls.

Try this checkpoint for black women:



I use it a lot for any race but some guy posted some awesome black girls with that model a while a go.
 
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fr34ky

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I just tried that blowjob pose embedding and it sucks bad even using all of my tricks. I'm shocking nobody trained more bj pose embeddings, it's either impossible or people just don't like blowjobs (?)

Edit: it sucks but not in the good way

Just adding more stuff to the topic:

While looking for more BJ checkpoints reading the comments someone asks how was the embedding trained, and the guy answers:

'The other was something I just tuned of another model by hand (moving sliders in an embedding editor). This was trained from scratch using images I collected, cropped, and resampled.'

So, 2 conclusions, 1) there is an embedding tuner, which would be cool to try, and 2) people just upload whatever shit they make into that page with very low quality testing, so best thing to do is download the most popular high quality checkpoints and don't lose much time on this kind of low quality stuff.
 
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Who can find a black woman close to this prompt:

Strangely I have such slim pickings, I can't even. And the end result is no where near what the prompt is suggesting. I.e. from time to time there are pretty ones, but nobody close to the prompt.
I did some testing.That prompt looks a bit suspicious in relation to the resulting image. You can fake that stuff by putting it in img2img and change the prompt text and then generate with 0 denoising. It's possible that he just got very lucky or did something else that doesn't show up in the meta data. Or Idk..

Did some rounds with tweaking in between.

"beautiful black young woman from Africa with (beautiful face), (((enormous breasts))), plump figure, big hips, small waist, thick thighs, big afro hair, large hoop earrings.
posing for a picture on the street smiling hands in the air.
she wears (((tight Yellow long-sleeved shirt))) and (((tight black jeans))).
the location is (street, evening, depth of fields). digital painting, hyperrealism"

The result:
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There are of course more tweaking and improvements to be made. I suspect there is a lora needed such as hyperBottomHeavy or similar
 
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fr34ky

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I did some testing.That prompt looks a bit suspicious in relation to the resulting image. You can fake that stuff by putting it in img2img and change the prompt text and then generate with 0 denoising. It's possible that he just got very lucky or did something else that doesn't show up in the meta data. Or Idk..

Did some rounds with tweaking in between.

"beautiful black young woman from Africa with (beautiful face), (((enormous breasts))), plump figure, big hips, small waist, thick thighs, big afro hair, large hoop earrings.
posing for a picture on the street smiling hands in the air.
she wears (((tight Yellow long-sleeved shirt))) and (((tight black jeans))).
the location is (street, evening, depth of fields). digital painting, hyperrealism"

The result:
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There are of course more tweaking and improvements to be made.
May be the guy just took some random pic and put it in img2img with some prompts, that will never give you the original picture using txt2txt from zero.
 
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I did some testing.That prompt looks a bit suspicious in relation to the resulting image. You can fake that stuff by putting it in img2img and change the prompt text and then generate with 0 denoising. It's possible that he just got very lucky or did something else that doesn't show up in the meta data. Or Idk..
Mr-Fox fr34ky gents, that's my prompt, sorry I didn't mention it.

Thanks for giving it a shot!
 
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