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[Stable Diffusion] Prompt Sharing and Learning Thread

Fuchsschweif

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The extra was selected when I loaded your image from PNG Info. This is why it gave variations. Make sure it's not active.
After I deselected it, everything has been fine. 822547809 is the seed it had and the variations strength 0.2 .
If you load an image from PNG Info you will get all settings, including some that you might not want.
Normally when you set the seed, as long as you don't change the resolution or something major the image should not change drastically.

I tried it again. Picked the OG picture in PNG info, send to text2image, removed the "extras" thick, picked an upscaler, and boom:

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It's again creating the second image. WTF :WaitWhat:
 

Fuchsschweif

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The extra was selected when I loaded your image from PNG Info. This is why it gave variations. Make sure it's not active.
After I deselected it, everything has been fine. 822547809 is the seed it had and the variations strength 0.2 .
Wait. I have a different seed. How did it spit out another seed on your end?

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I tried it again. Picked the OG picture in PNG info, send to text2image, removed the "extras" thick, picked an upscaler, and boom:

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It's again creating the second image. WTF :WaitWhat:
Sometimes SD start to misbehave this is when we put him in the corner to think of what he did...
Try reboot SD and load your image again. If it's still the same then I don't know. We would need to trouble shoot it then.
 
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Mr-Fox

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With NMDK with multiplier:2 28 sampling steps and 56 hiresteps denoising 0.3 and cfg 8
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The left eye (her right), is a bit wonky but sd has typically difficulties with sideglanses etc
 
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What optimising settings are you using, is "rng" from cpu, gpu or nv?
Seed isn't 110% regardless of being the same value IF it's being fed through different things.
Old version of xformers wasn't deterministic, same is true for one of the sdp variations too i believe.

Though if you're throwing variation seed into the mix that'll really screw with things...
 

Fuchsschweif

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The extra was selected when I loaded your image from PNG Info. This is why it gave variations. Make sure it's not active.
After I deselected it, everything has been fine. 822547809 is the seed it had and the variations strength 0.2 .
Okay both seed don't work for me :WaitWhat:

2549670335 is what automatically gets extracted from png info -> send to text2img.

That one results in our infamous second picture:

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The other variation seed you shared ( 822547809 )doesn't work either, you can tell from the preview it's again creating something new:

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Fuchsschweif

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What optimising settings are you using, is "rng" from cpu, gpu or nv?
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I have an nvidia card, should I switch to NV?

I think this isn't the root issue though. SD has no problem re-creating the same picture over and over again, it's just not the one from the seed..
 

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Re-running the exact same thing with increased "Upscale by" slider from 1 to 2 (I think the previous one was blurry because 1 meant = same resolution?), I got this:

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So already way better in terms of sharpness, although I am not 100% satisfied with the result.



But funny that it did now recreate 1:1 the same picture.

Although the seed is still from the previous picture.

Why does SD not recreate from the seed, I don't get it :WaitWhat:
I really like this pic. Here's a slightly amended version in Juggernaut XL

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And here's how I got it

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Main changes were the sampling method (I like Adaptive samplers as more steps = better imo), the CFG and the upscaler.

Shows the difference using a different checkpoint can make.
 

Mr-Fox

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Why would it not show me the seed of the exact picture I put in?
And where did you get the correct seed then? :unsure:
There's an extra section you can use a variation seed to find variations with the same image.
The original seed :2549670335 . The variations seed: 822547809.
Variation seed.png
Out of curiosity I used the "variation seed" as the image seed. Meaning no extra selected and no variation but with 822547809 as the main seed. Hope I'm being clear..

Without hiresfix:
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With hiresfix:
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I like the perspective but the face isn't great.
 
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Fuchsschweif

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Main changes were the sampling method (I like Adaptive samplers as more steps = better imo)
What's the difference between my default one and the one you picked? Aren't the steps just determined by the step slider? Or do you mean that it works better with higher step numbers?


There's an extra section you can use a variation seed to find variations with the same image.
The original seed :2549670335 . The variations seed: 822547809.
Both don't work for me, see my post above! Really weird. https://f95zone.to/threads/stable-diffusion-prompt-sharing-and-learning-thread.146036/post-11948620


Out of curiosity I used the "variation seed" as the image seed. Meaning no extra selected and no variation but with 822547809 as the main seed. Hope I'm being clear..
No hiresfix:
You even get a closer result with the variation seed than I do with the OG seed.. (although mine made use of hiresfix)
 
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Any recommendations for Open Pose editors?

I use this one but if y'all got better ones, do let me know. Thanks!
 
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I have an nvidia card, should I switch to NV?

I think this isn't the root issue though. SD has no problem re-creating the same picture over and over again, it's just not the one from the seed..
it recreates it for YOU yes, but if you share images with the intention of others being able to recreate it or you trying to recreate other ppls images, two of those options have very specific conditions.
GPU will only give the same results IF both have the same GPU.
Nvidia should work for anyone using Nvidia cards but it's not very commonly used.
CPU is the one that's most "stable" and most easily shared.
 
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Fuchsschweif

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it recreates it for YOU yes, but if you share images with the intention of others being able to recreate it or you trying to recreate other ppls images, two of those options have very specific conditions.
GPU will only give the same results IF both have the same GPU.
Nvidia should work for anyone using Nvidia cards but it's not very commonly used.
CPU is the one that's most "stable" and most easily shared.
Okay, but apparently while being set to "GPU" everyone here is able to recreate with my seed, except me :LOL:
 
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Mr-Fox

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it recreates it for YOU yes, but if you share images with the intention of others being able to recreate it or you trying to recreate other ppls images, two of those options have very specific conditions.
GPU will only give the same results IF both have the same GPU.
Nvidia should work for anyone using Nvidia cards but it's not very commonly used.
CPU is the one that's most "stable" and most easily shared.
Mine is set to GPU... I don't remember if I changed it or if it's default.:unsure:
I'm not at all convinced this is the issue though.
 

Fuchsschweif

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So, nobody knows what's going on?
I pick the exact same seed as you guys, use the same settings, thick the same boxes, but get wildly new creations. Or do you see any mistakes?

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me3

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Mine is set to GPU... I don't remember if I changed it or if it's default.:unsure:
I'm not at all convinced this is the issue.
Think the two of you just happen to have the same GPU, seem to remember both of you having 1070, unless i'm mixing up some details
 
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Fuchsschweif

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CFG Scale is twice as high
HMMMMMMMMM. At 8 it worked. But when I played around with it earlier and tried extrem high and low values it didn't.

But 16 is from the original seed. Why would I need to change the CFG scale if it's set to the one that had the OG seed / picture as outcome?


So let's say I create a brand new picture I like with CFG set to 16. Then I take that seed to generate it again, shouldn't the CFG stay at 16 to have the same generation settings as before? I mean, I want the same pic.
 
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