[Stable Diffusion] Prompt Sharing and Learning Thread

Mr-Fox

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I have seen that if you use both lora's in prompt and with Additional Networks Module at the same time, the face can start to look really weird. It doesn't seem to be the issue in your case though.
 

Davox

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I've been using pornpen as pro user for a month. If I swap to doing it myself via SD does ot run on my PC or in the cloud. I.e. should I really be setting up SD on my gaming rig or my living room pc?
 

Nano999

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Yeah, it is kind of strange - I'm just copying exactly what Nano and MrFox were doing - that's why I was so surprised at the squashed facial features. Those are their settings I'm using (which originally came from the civitai post). I'm just trying to replicate at this point before further experimentation.
Just put my image to PNG info and convert in to txt2img, all the promt and settings will be there
 

Mr-Fox

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I've been using pornpen as pro user for a month. If I swap to doing it myself via SD does ot run on my PC or in the cloud. I.e. should I really be setting up SD on my gaming rig or my living room pc?
If your PC can run it. YES! Pronpen is a big ripoff. It runs on your PC locally. You need at the absolute minimum a GPU with 4GB VRam. It's usually recommended with 8GB VRam as minimum but I have seen people making it work with much less.
 
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miaouxtoo

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Thanks all - appreciate the answers and help. Which sampler do you tend to use for generation? I've noticed that DPM++ 2M Karras is pretty fast vs. DPM++ SDE Karras. But then when generating hires fix, (using Latent bicubic antialias) it slows it right down on my mac. Max for me seems to be 1024 x 1024 as well strangely - I get weird artifacts and intense discoloration.
 

Sepheyer

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Thanks all - appreciate the answers and help. Which sampler do you tend to use for generation? I've noticed that DPM++ 2M Karras is pretty fast vs. DPM++ SDE Karras. But then when generating hires fix, (using Latent bicubic antialias) it slows it right down on my mac. Max for me seems to be 1024 x 1024 as well strangely - I get weird artifacts and intense discoloration.
Do go with Euler A, generate a bunch - this way you'll have a mental benchmark of whatsup.

Then try "Heun" and "SDE Karras" and then you'll go: ah, thats whatsup.

So, once you've been at it for a while you'll probably settle for Euler A, Heun, SDE Karras.
 

Jimwalrus

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Do go with Euler A, generate a bunch - this way you'll have a mental benchmark of whatsup.

Then try "Heun" and "SDE Karras" and then you'll go: ah, thats whatsup.

So, once you've been at it for a while you'll probably settle for Euler A, Heun, SDE Karras.
Personally it's Eular_a for speed and novelty (it really can suddenly create something astonishing) and DPM++ 2M Karras for ultra-realism.
 
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Davox

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If your PC can run it. YES! Pronpen is a big ripoff. It runs on your PC locally. You need at the absolute minimum a GPU with 4GB VRam. It's usually recommended with 8GB VRam as minimum but I have seen people making it work with much less.
Porn pen is simple and intuitive with a very shallow learning curve. Wouldn't say its a rip off at all. It has its place and its a dam sight cheaper than a new graphics card. I've had fun with it for a month and the discord/Dev/community have been great. I won't sub again as the whole fleildd has limited scope for me.


I've got an RTX 3070 Ti ROG Strix OC 8GB in my gaming rig so shouldn't be a problem. My living roommedia PC uses AMD onboard graphics so no chance of that working :eek:
 

Mr-Fox

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Porn pen is simple and intuitive with a very shallow learning curve. Wouldn't say its a rip off at all. It has its place and its a dam sight cheaper than a new graphics card. I've had fun with it for a month and the discord/Dev/community have been great. I won't sub again as the whole fleildd has limited scope for me.


I've got an RTX 3070 Ti ROG Strix OC 8GB in my gaming rig so shouldn't be a problem. My living roommedia PC uses AMD onboard graphics so no chance of that working :eek:
Well with a rig like that, pornpen is a big waste of money. You can generate better quality images than pornpen on your pc in seconds for free. Pornpen takes 5 minutes for subpar quality and has a very limiting prompt system, though I never saw what Pro gives you in this regard. Just know that it's not at all that complicated to get SD on your PC and making way better images for free. This is why I think it's a ripoff. Only if you don't have the hardware for it, is pornpen at all useful and only the free version imo. I have seen many people getting it to work with potato's btw.
Though they are hardware limited and can not get a very high resolution.
What rubs me the wrong way is how the guy pretends that it's something complicated and very difficult to get into on his discord, when it's clearly not. Everyone and their grandma is making a ton of tutorials on Youtube about it so it's not like there's a lack of information either. You will see how easy it is and then wonder why you ever bothered with pornpen, trust me.
 
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Mr-Fox

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I generated this image in the first day or so after installing SD and I had no clue what I was doing and it took maybe a quarter of the time at most, probably under a minute I don't remember.
It's original and higher resolution and still took much less time and completely for free.
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Then compare with a pretty "good" pornpen image that took 5 minutes and was basically just a regeneration of an already made image. On pornpen it's mostly only button pushing and rehashing, but with SD on your PC you will actually generate new unique images with an original prompt.

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Don't get me wrong. If you aim high and try to generate the best possible image it will take time but it's at a quality level that makes pornpen look like minecraft.

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sharlotte

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Just found sthg by accident, not sure if it's been mentioned already, but I had created a LORA and for whatever reason put it in settings\extra networks\add lora to prompt - no matter what I tried afterwards, all my generations had the same face and quite a few artefacts (probably need to fine tune the lora). Handy if you are trying to keep same face throughout.
How I love this experimenting ;)
 
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miaouxtoo

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Does anyone have any prompt suggestions if I want to have a series of images that are transitions from ClothingA to ClothingB for the same model? E.g. Office to beachwear?
 

Techn0magier

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Okay, so here I am, a total newb when it comes to AI Art stuff. I freshly started my Stable Diffusion journey. And currently, I try to wrap my tentacles around the basics. While I'm figuring out what is best suited for me as a UI, Invoke AI or Automatic1111. Youtube and other sources try to bombard me with ControlNet, whatever that is, and a lot of other stuff that goes right over my head for now. Those who know the work I show on this site, understand that I'm looking for a way to work and enhance my images quite a bit, especially my NSFW stuff. I got a few pointers over at the DAZ3D thread to come here and a few beginner-friendly tutorials.
And now I hit a wall.
I tried to give one of my images the feel of an old cell drawing like Disney studios would have used in the 90's.
Source:
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One of many botched results:
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I tried a few samplers and dpmpp_2 gave the best results so far. My prompts with this test were: girl on top of man, lineart, cell painting, ((drawing in style of 90's disney movies)), succubus.
I used CFG Scale 7,5 and Image Strength of 0,5 anything less would not convert into a painting but keep the photo look.