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[Stable Diffusion] Prompt Sharing and Learning Thread

FreakyHokage

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DeepBooru is much more extensive than Interrogate Clip. I'm working on a prompt right now that started with DeepBooru. Thank you for the tip. (y)

The office hoe aka secretary..
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I'm having trouble with getting the fingernails but when it's done the prompt is great.
Try downloading the Textual Inversion called badhands4 or badhands5 and it should help with that. I don't know if I can post links or not but you can find it on Civitai. I'm new to all this and I'm figuring it out as I go lol someone told me about badhands.
 

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In my limited time playing about with both, it seems that interrogate clip seems to give out a sentence eg "A busty young woman in an office" while deepbooru seems to just have a lot of words seperated by commas "1girl, cleavage, office".
I like deepbooru for showing me some prompts that I didn't know about, there seems to be a lot of 2 word prompts that it shows as one with an underscore - deep_cleavage or the like
I've noticed that deebooru also gives better prompts for NSFW art.
 
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Try downloading the Textual Inversion called badhands4 or badhands5 and it should help with that. I don't know if I can post links or not but you can find it on Civitai. I'm new to all this and I'm figuring it out as I go lol someone told me about badhands.
Yes you can post links, no problem. If you look around in this thread we do it a lot. I'm familiar with "badhands" however Ti's has been very problematic in my experience so I choose to stay away from them for now.
They tend to take over too much and then linger in the result before they have been "purged" even after you remove them. Hypernetworks has been the same so for now I stick to Loras. I'm aware that there is a new type of Lora or a couple named , at civitai it has the category name . I have not messed with these yet but I have the Locon extension so it's only a matter of time.
 
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Yes you can post links, no problem. If you look around in this thread we do it a lot. I'm familiar with "badhands" however Ti's has been very problematic in my experience so I choose to stay away from them for now.
They tend to take over too much and then linger in the result before they have been "purged" even after you remove them. Hypernetworks has been the same so for now I stick to Loras. I'm aware that there is a new type of Lora or a couple named , at civitai it has the category name . I have not messed with these yet but I have the Locon extension so it's only a matter of time.
A bit surprised you've been having problems with TIs given the amount of time i've spent with them the only similar "issue" i've experience is that if you use one in a prompt then delete or replace the TI file it doesn't get updated and you have to either relaunch or hit the refresh for embeddings.
I've never had it gotten "cached" in the actual prompts though, soon as they've been removed from there the effects have gone as well.

However I do remember having some oddities with just pure prompts. On some very few cases i've added something to the prompt, generated a few sets of images, noticed that it seemingly didn't have any effect, removed it again then only to have it show in the next couple of images.

It's almost like the AI seems to "remember" certain things too. Like things you use very often in your prompts showing up on their own or the "style/quality" you always use seem to be applied. Because people mostly just use the same prompts every time, specially negative ones, we don't notice or just overlook it as we're used to seeing it.
(They are planing to take over the world and wipe us all out, so obviously they need to know what we prefer to easily manipulate us :D)
 
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Has anyone managed to do any good renderings with bodypaint?

There are two promising LORAs on civitai, I tried them both, and the results are non-useable although artsy.

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A bit surprised you've been having problems with TIs given the amount of time i've spent with them the only similar "issue" i've experience is that if you use one in a prompt then delete or replace the TI file it doesn't get updated and you have to either relaunch or hit the refresh for embeddings.
I've never had it gotten "cached" in the actual prompts though, soon as they've been removed from there the effects have gone as well.

However I do remember having some oddities with just pure prompts. On some very few cases i've added something to the prompt, generated a few sets of images, noticed that it seemingly didn't have any effect, removed it again then only to have it show in the next couple of images.

It's almost like the AI seems to "remember" certain things too. Like things you use very often in your prompts showing up on their own or the "style/quality" you always use seem to be applied. Because people mostly just use the same prompts every time, specially negative ones, we don't notice or just overlook it as we're used to seeing it.
(They are planing to take over the world and wipe us all out, so obviously they need to know what we prefer to easily manipulate us :D)
Yeah you could be correct about needing to do the reload embedings. When I had the issue it would stay even after restarting SD completely, maybe even after PC reboot, that part I don't remember. It only disappeared after many many generated images. It was like I had to purge the "memory" by doing many new generations. I have had the same happen with hypernetworks, so after this I stay well clear of those "things"..:confused: I have no idea why or how this would happen and so until I have a clear answer and either know why or how to avoid it/remove it I will stick with Loras.
 

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Has anyone managed to do any good renderings with bodypaint?

There are two promising LORAs on civitai, I tried them both, and the results are non-useable although artsy.

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I remember seeing someone post a set of images with bodypaint. If it's good or not is up to you to decide.
Ah, found it. Of course it was the eminent devilkkw who made the post.

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" Prompt:
(detailed), ((TYPE haired woman in a colorful intricate bodypaint)), sunset, grunge, oily, dirty, ripped, post-apocalyptic
TYPE=describe haire"

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(detailed), ((split cyan-pink haired woman in a colorful intricate bodypaint)), sunset, grunge, oily, dirty, ripped, post-apocalyptic

Negative prompt: (bad quality, worst quality, low quality:1.2) render
Steps: 20, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 11, Seed: 41318433, Size: 768x1024, Model hash: 5c4bb26418, Model: kkw_kkw002
 
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Mr-Fox

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Maybe try to find a good image that you like and then see what prompt DeepBooru will give you. It could be a starting point and give some guidance for the direction you will take the idea and project. Just a thought.;)



 

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Yes you can post links, no problem. If you look around in this thread we do it a lot. I'm familiar with "badhands" however Ti's has been very problematic in my experience so I choose to stay away from them for now.
They tend to take over too much and then linger in the result before they have been "purged" even after you remove them. Hypernetworks has been the same so for now I stick to Loras. I'm aware that there is a new type of Lora or a couple named , at civitai it has the category name . I have not messed with these yet but I have the Locon extension so it's only a matter of time.
I've only messed around with a few Lycoris. I have one now that does Princess Diana I made some pretty decent images last night but I still need to work around with it lol. But I do know what you mean about ti's I have the age slider added and with too many prompts it messes all up. 00012-2989291205.png
 

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So any good automatic plugins or LORAs to handle eyes? Because a lot of my eyes come out messed up.
I was having issues with eyes as well and this video helped me out. I've been using hirex.fix and it's gotten better. I know you can use inpainting to do it as well but I'm still learning how to use inpainting and img2img.



 
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Stacking embeddings and loras will often screw things up for you as well. The more poorly done they are the more "wrong" things they affect. Just because it says it'll just give a hairstyle or clothing it very often causes impacts with other things.Which is why people should put much more effort into the job when training them, unfortunately many just go for the simple shortcut route and you get stuck wondering "WTF made that happen"
 

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Stacking embeddings and loras will often screw things up for you as well. The more poorly done they are the more "wrong" things they affect. Just because it says it'll just give a hairstyle or clothing it very often causes impacts with other things.Which is why people should put much more effort into the job when training them, unfortunately many just go for the simple shortcut route and you get stuck wondering "WTF made that happen"
Abso-fucking-lutely!
I do find though that it's not as bad if you combine embeddings and LoRAs i.e. if you use one TI and two LoRAs it's less likely to screw things than three LoRAs.
I haven't done any empirical testing though, that could just be a result of the chances of hitting a bad one increasing because more people are generating LoRAs these days than TIs.
 
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Imma drop here my first ~10 attempts using control net in ComfyUI. Finally got over my laziness and tried to see for myself what's up.

The motivation was to get those arms behind the head: a pose that I almost never can achieve using the text prompts.

Welp, the results are pretty fucking great considering I am using everything off the shelf.

What's especially notable are the very final results in the set - check out the ease when capturing full-body, down to the heels. That's a fucking gamechanger (for me).

Granted, there are fused parts, but for the time being IDGAF, I am ecstatic of how well it works. Finally, the ComfyUI page says the control net comes with performance hit, but saw no performance hit whatsoever - may be they just forgot to update the page from the very first implementation of the control net.

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Imma drop here my first ~10 attempts using control net in ComfyUI. Finally got over my laziness and tried to see for myself what's up.

The motivation was to get those arms behind the head: a pose that I almost never can achieve using the text prompts.

Welp, the results are pretty fucking great considering I am using everything off the shelf.

What's especially notable are the very final results in the set - check out the ease when capturing full-body, down to the heels. That's a fucking gamechanger (for me).

Granted, there are fused parts, but for the time being IDGAF, I am ecstatic of how well it works. Finally, the ComfyUI page says the control net comes with performance hit, but saw no performance hit whatsoever - may be they just forgot to update the page from the very first implementation of the control net.

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Holy smokin fudge on a stick.. That's just awesome. Great job. :D(y) I have been putting it of for a long time myself also but I very much intend to start messing with control net stuff as well.
 
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