[Stable Diffusion] Prompt Sharing and Learning Thread

[Nano999]

e.g. I'm changing denoising strength of the image above

30 steps + 10 steps for hi res.

For each 0.1 ... 0.5 ... x it will render 30 steps + 10 steps
Every 30 steps images will be the same, every 10 steps different
So I want to take the very first image of 30 steps and let SD use it as a base and generate hires.fix images without generating each time the same first 30 steps image to save the time

So it must generete one time 30 steps for a simple image and then do 10 steps of hires.fix, 10 steps, 10 steps for 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 denoise strength
but SD keep rendering 30 steps each time and it's the same image

 

[Mr-Fox]

I don't have the old pic anymore, the new one with the other model:

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This model gives blurry results at 0.2 and normal at 0.3
The other model blurry at 0.45 and normal at 0.5
So it depends on the model then

The point in having the meta data is for anyone who wish to help being able to see the settings etc so that we can better suggest other ones that may help your issue. I would use a different upscaler. They make a big difference for the image quality.
Try Lanczos if you only have the default ones. I would however recommend getting NMKD Superscale from this

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. There are other ones there also such as one focused on faces etc. I have not tried any other myself yet though.
The sample method is also something I highly recommend that you change, either to DPM++ 2M Karras or DPM++ SDE.
Try to use 2x the hires steps to the sample steps if you wish to keep the composition.
Example:
25 sample steps = 50 hires steps
I recommend 20-30 sample steps and 40-60 hires steps.
I believe that if you make these changes that you will see a big increase in the image quality.

 

[Mr-Fox]

e.g. I'm changing denoising strength of the image above

30 steps + 10 steps for hi res.

For each 0.1 ... 0.5 ... x it will render 30 steps + 10 steps
Every 30 steps images will be the same, every 10 steps different
So I want to take the very first image of 30 steps and let SD use it as a base and generate hires.fix images without generating each time the same first 30 steps image to save the time

So it must generete one time 30 steps for a simple image and then do 10 steps of hires.fix, 10 steps, 10 steps for 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 denoise strength
but SD keep rendering 30 steps each time and it's the same image

I understand now. It's not possible in txt2img but in img2img you can use the upscaling function with plot script. First generate the image in txt2img and then send it to img2img tab and generate it there using the same prompt and seed in combination with plot script. Then I think that you have achieved what you are asking for. Though upscaling is not exactly the same as hires fix.

 

[Nano999]

I understand now. It's not possible in txt2img but in img2img you can use the upscaling function with plot script. First generate the image in txt2img and then send it to img2img tab and generate it there using the same prompt and seed in combination with plot script. Then I think that you have achieved what you are asking for. Though upscaling is not exactly the same as hires fix.

Yeah, what a shame. This functiong is so needed in txt2img

 

[modine2021]

Could you please post a PNG with the prompts etc instead of a jpg? Thanks.
It certainly seems weird that it's not picking up the LoRA - unless you're missing the trigger word(s) in the prompt.

oh thought that was a png. i usually edit in photoshop then save as a jpg. try these. im using exact settings as the model creator samples they used:

Panty Pull drop (suppose to be pulling panty down)



Shirtlift (suppose to be flashing breasts)



Skirtlift (suppose to be a woman lifting her skirt)

 

[Mr-Fox]

Yeah, what a shame. This functiong is so needed in txt2img

If the goal is to get a better image I don't think that you need to worry too much about doing this comparison of denoising.
Keep it between 0.2-0.3. What will make the big difference is the changes I recommended to you in the other post.
Btw I forgot to say , use postprocessing, I prefer GPFGAN but you can try Codeformer and see wich you prefer. Sometimes using Restore Faces is good other times it's bad, you need to try it and see wich you prefer.

 

[Mr-Fox]

oh thought that was a png. i usually edit in photoshop then save as a jpg. try these. im using exact settings as the model creator samples they used:

Panty Pull drop (suppose to be pulling panty down)
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Shirtlift (suppose to be flashing breasts)
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Skirtlift (suppose to be a woman lifting her skirt)
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I don't have that checkpoint or the hypernetwork so I can't do tests myself. I would suggest to try it without the hypernetwork and see if it helps. In my experience Hypernetworks and Textual Inversions have a tendency to take over and mess up other things, such as making Lora's ineffective.

 

[Nano999]

use postprocessing, I prefer GPFGAN but you can try Codeformer

How to access postprocessing tab? Is it an extension or?

 

[Davox]

oh thought that was a png. i usually edit in photoshop then save as a jpg. try these. im using exact settings as the model creator samples they used:

Skirtlift (suppose to be a woman lifting her skirt)
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I use one called lora:skirtliftTheAstonishing_skirtliftv1:1

It absolutely loves just doing a torso shot and cutting off the head even if I adjust the negative prompt to account for it. Making the resolution taller helps.

Most of these seem to b e bottomless rather than skirt lift, so you might want to add something about a skirt in the prompt. I don't normally see this, so think it might be something to do with the lab coat prompt.

This was produced with your prompt and negative, but i left everythin esle as the default. the checkpoint is realistic vision v13



The one i use for shirt lift is lora:shirtliftALORAFor_shirtliftv1:1

 

[Mr-Fox]

How to access postprocessing tab? Is it an extension or?

In settings go to postprocessing tab and select both GFPGAN and Codeformer and apply settings of course.. They will both be visible in txt2img and img2img.
You have a visibility slider that you use to select the one you want or I guess you can do a mix of both, codeformer also have a weight slider. So far I prefer to use GFPGAN and I just set it to 1.

 

[Mr-Fox]

I use one called lora:skirtliftTheAstonishing_skirtliftv1:1

It absolutely loves just doing a torso shot and cutting off the head even if I adjust the negative prompt to account for it. Making the resolution taller helps.

Most of these seem to b e bottomless rather than skirt lift, so you might want to add something about a skirt in the prompt. I don't normally see this, so think it might be something to do with the lab coat prompt.

This was produced with your prompt and negative, but i left everythin esle as the default. the checkpoint is realistic vision v13

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The one i use for shirt lift is lora:shirtliftALORAFor_shirtliftv1:1

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To avoid torso only shots or face out of view etc. Try to use "out of frame" "cropped" "face cropped" "face cut" etc in negative, you might need to weight them heavily. Example: (cropped:1.5).
Also use something in positive prompt such as "full body view". It's very effective to use a positive prompt in combination with a negative prompt for a specific result.

 

[Davox]

To avoid torso only shots or face out of view etc. Try to use "out of frame" "cropped" "face cropped" "face cut" etc in negative, you might need to weight them heavily. Example: (cropped:1.5).
Also use something in positive prompt such as "full body view". It's very effective to use a positive prompt in combination with a negative prompt for a specific result.

I was doing both (except the weighting), they are in my usual prompts/negatives. they didn't make much of a difference with that lora so i cut them out to make my prompts match the guy who was asking for help.

 

[Mr-Fox]

I was doing both (except the weighting), they are in my usual prompts/negatives. they didn't make much of a difference with that lora so i cut them out to make my prompts match the guy who was asking for help.

Try it with the weight in both positive and negative.

Example
Positive: (full body view:1.5)
Negative: (cropped:1.5), (face cut:1.5), (torso only view:1.5)

This is sledgehammer powerful. Though depending on how a Lora is trained this might not be enough.
A sure sign that a Lora is either over trained or just badly trained is that it's too dominant and difficult to scale it back.
Also keep in mind that if you set a Lora strength high it's going to take over more and it's tendencies is going to be more prominent such as only upper torso view etc. You should only use high enough strength that the Lora does what it supposed to do without taking over.

 

[Mr-Fox]

BTW when I take the time to help all good you folks here it's good etiquette to leave a like. Some of you do and I appreciate it, but others never do.. Get to it..

 

[modine2021]

I use one called lora:skirtliftTheAstonishing_skirtliftv1:1

It absolutely loves just doing a torso shot and cutting off the head even if I adjust the negative prompt to account for it. Making the resolution taller helps.

Most of these seem to b e bottomless rather than skirt lift, so you might want to add something about a skirt in the prompt. I don't normally see this, so think it might be something to do with the lab coat prompt.

This was produced with your prompt and negative, but i left everythin esle as the default. the checkpoint is realistic vision v13

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The one i use for shirt lift is lora:shirtliftALORAFor_shirtliftv1:1

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some success. i swtich models too. to

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[fried]

Could you please post a PNG with the prompts etc instead of a jpg? Thanks.
It certainly seems weird that it's not picking up the LoRA - unless you're missing the trigger word(s) in the prompt.

JPEG specification allows for metadata and their posted file did include such.

You can output either PNG or JPG files in AUTOMATIC1111 WebUI (perhaps others) with generation metadata included. I am not sure of other WebUIs, but for AUTOMATIC1111, simply drop the above file into the PNG Info tab and it will show full generation information.

 

[Sepheyer]

Had an obsession with the particular look:

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[Jimwalrus]

JPEG specification allows for metadata and their posted file did include such.

You can output either PNG or JPG files in AUTOMATIC1111 WebUI (perhaps others) with generation metadata included. I am not sure of other WebUIs, but for AUTOMATIC1111, simply drop the above file into the PNG Info tab and it will show full generation information.

Thanks, this was something I wasn't aware of and, being the know-it-all that I am didn't even try! I stand corrected and have edited my original post.

 

[Jimwalrus]

Had an obsession with the particular look:
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Sepheyer - "obsession with [a] particular look"? This is not news to us!

 

[Jimwalrus]

anyone with experience with these? they just aint happening for me. even using the exact settings from authors samples. my results are all only normal poses with panties and shirts intact.

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my results no panty pull or shirt lift

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Looking at the generation info that I now know is in the JPEG metadata, it seems to be referencing "<lora:pantypull-drop-3-000020:1>", while the one from Civitai by default is named "<lora:pantyPullPantyDrop_pantypullPantydropV1:1>".
You may have renamed it of course, but I'd double check your typing and/or redownload it from Civitai.

It certainly looks like what I'd expect if the LoRA is not being successfully referenced at all.