My point is that with the current setup hes basically forcing her choice. Imagine if your wife had been distant and treating you coldly for months all of a sudden, then you finally get her to sleep with you and after you ask her if she enjoyed it she tells you she needs to go, just for a walk. Then walks around for literally 5 hours, then takes her car for a drive, blah blah, point is flip it around and think about how you'd respond to her asking you something on the spot after all that, you'd basically have to agree. And her response is off too she doesn't even get mad or anything about it, no scolding about building better communication or anything. Its all a bit over the top.
I didn't mean the MC needed to literally take 5 minutes to say it but its a story, like at the start where the MC is talking about having insomnia for the last few months that only took a bit to say and covered months while letting us know hes been bothered by a problem for a long time. We didn't need 2 hours showing every time he tried to go to sleep that he couldn't. Pretty much after they have sex, you could have trimmed it down to something like then he went for a drive for a few hours, almost got into a car accident and realized he needed to talk to his wife about things so they could work it out, then instead used the time to show the couple rebuilding their relationship and exploring this new aspect of their lives like a healthy relationship should. But, I suspect the Dev needed to remove some logic so that there could be seeds for an NTR route.
Why is there an NTR route at in all a game heavily portrayed as an NTS game? Which leads me to honestly my real problem with this game, that I forgot to mention in my last post due to fatigue,. Is that with how dramatic it all is, the insomnia, the car accident etc tells me this isn't a fetish for the main character, its an obsession. And this is the worst "NTS" because it damages the entire genre, theres a lot of very obviously ntr stories (I don't hate ntr, I've played some of the best ones) that get mis-tagged as NTS due to this obsssive "NTS". I don't consider it NTS because instead of being a way to promote healthy communication and self reflection, another way to show care and appreciation for a lover, a way to spice up your relationship, and/or being a "team fetish" where both members of the couple have fun. It becomes a sickness, an unhealthy and destructive thing for the relationship and the people involved promoting equally bad relationships and concepts of "love". Fantasizing about a fat asshole who hates you sleeping with your wife is unhealthy and not NTS. Wanting to see your wife sleep with someone else so badly that you let her get raped is sick and not NTS . Letting someone treat your wife abusively is not caring about her, nor is her letting you be abused, and not NTS.
I sincerely hope Im wrong and that the dev really did just dip a bit to far into an artsy style for the demo and that the full game will be the best NTS game ever, it still has the potential to do so even with the demo as it is, so again I wish them good luck and will be watching in anticipation.
"And her response is off too she doesn't even get mad or anything about it, no scolding about building better communication or anything. Its all a bit over the top."
for your first paragraph i agree on that alone, yes that's what i saw too it went all too "well" for something that seemed a bit more deep but apart from that i don't see any wrong with the husband actions considering everything that's more the fact the wife is too accepting(but tbh it really isnt a big problem imo i understand her way of thinking she though something worse was happening(like cheating), if it happened to me and my gf/wife told me she was a cuck after all that i wouldn't be "mad" but reassured too that it's just that).
"I didn't mean the MC needed to literally take 5 minutes to say it but its a story, like at the start where the MC is talking about having insomnia for the last few months that only took a bit to say and covered months while letting us know hes been bothered by a problem for a long time. We didn't need 2 hours showing every time he tried to go to sleep that he couldn't. Pretty much after they have sex, you could have trimmed it down to something like then he went for a drive for a few hours, almost got into a car accident and realized he needed to talk to his wife about things so they could work it out, then instead used the time to show the couple rebuilding their relationship and exploring this new aspect of their lives like a healthy relationship should."
you are acting like the game is finished and that's it, it's the prologue things just beginned you can't really expect a whole healthy relationship already done in a prologue when that's supposed to be the game, in the aquamarine route she says herself that we will guide her through it, so we got a whole presentation of 6 different bulls with a little taste of how the different "fetish" route will work(ass,breast,feet) while having a well constructed story, considering it's a demo (which is supposed to be a prologue) i feel like that's all we could ask for.
"Why is there an NTR route at in all a game heavily portrayed as an NTS game?" why not?.. it's a route,you have no obligation of doing the route you can play your happy sharing without touching the ntr side.. i don't get this type of questions tbh.
You are right on the obsessive nts type where it can go from happy to obsession and then ntr but "Fantasizing about a fat asshole who hates you sleeping with your wife is unhealthy and not NTS. Wanting to see your wife sleep with someone else so badly that you let her get raped is sick and not NTS . Letting someone treat your wife abusively is not caring about her, nor is her letting you be abused, and not NTS."
like it or not it's NTS, NTS is not supposed to be a "healthy" tag to begin with, it's a neutral tag, some will be wholesome, other games will tend more on the hardcore NTS, i mean you can even choose in the game which type of NTS you want : stag(which is what you want i think),pimp and cuckold(which is what you don't like i think) NTS is more of a spectrum,it's not something marked as always wholesome and perfect(like what you said), sometimes it can be trashy(like BDSM cuckold type) and still be NTS.
I feel like it's a nothing burger we are talking about, because it's not like the game will force you into something you will be the one to choose whatever happens with different personnality(for your wife) and how things go, imo let the dev cook it's already a quality game while being a demo so i hope the full game will be really good, i'm more scared of the lack of content compared to everything else tbh, there is too many bulls with too many different personnalities and even divised by 3/4(with balanced) fetish and the full games is supposed to be out "soon" which makes me wonder if there will be enough content, i hope i'm wrong and there'll be a lot but idk let's wait and see.
