Azerak

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Honestly I completely agree with you. Not to mention how the game lead you into situations where Aura should have fallen during brainwash and/or sexual act in Roya, but somehow that barely has any conseguenge aside more corruption. I honestly expected Herman, which I agree with you it was the best part of the NTR in this game, to become someone you could "lose" the game with, instead at some point he become just a pointless loop.
Plus I hate how the corruption of the companions in Roya is so quick. 4 events and they are completely brainwash into new person and they are gone.

Another thing I hate and doesn't let me finish the game is how Aura become a psycho bitch, I mean, I'm ok with "mean girl" attitude (even if I hoped her to become more of a bimbo), but she become straight up evil that it's not even fun.

Something to support what you say about bad writing, and also something that completely alienated me from the story is how Aura, after "discovering" George betraying her, she had her heart broken, but "because she made a promise with Richard" she goes to a party where she get raped. I mean, wtf?! She was crying her heart out but has to follow Richard for a dumb promise?! That scene is so absurd is not even good to read/watch it.

Aura-dev, if you care about some constructive ideas, in your next game, focus more into the NTR corruption aspect and not make another psycho bitch. I would like to enjoy some "fun" and sexual corruption and I don't want to "feel bad" seeing her become pure evil. As a player I would like to be the one to decide which road to take, and not being "forced" by the narration to go into the good route. Call me a snowflake, but seeing the protagonist which you bounded through the story becoming so evil to make your friend barf in front of others after punching her, makes me close the game and never open it again (which already happened previously with the Richard scene I explained above)
 
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Blessed Water from the church in Trademond, though the price goes up a bit each day. The + version I think is just a reward from specific quests, I think you get one for turning in all the drug formulas in Nephlune.
Can occasionally find some too when you're out exploring the world. You know, dungeons where enemies tend to be around, that sort of thing. I know there was one on a corpse in the Fortress that Sathanas took over, on the top floor.
 
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Another thing I hate and doesn't let me finish the game is how Aura become a psycho bitch, I mean, I'm ok with "mean girl" attitude (even if I hoped her to become more of a bimbo), but she become straight up evil that it's not even fun.
So is it really not possible at all to go for a corruption run and not turn her into a mean cunt? When I first played a long time ago only the first level of "being a bitch" were available.
 

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Tell me how to open Roland? It only went out to open 1, and then there is no, I have been training for 20 times, but nothing has changed. 2025-02-17_015143.png
 

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So is it really not possible at all to go for a corruption run and not turn her into a mean cunt? When I first played a long time ago only the first level of "being a bitch" were available.
I could be wrong, but I think psycho bitch Aura only happens/gets unlocked after hitting a certain level of Vice, and you're generally hitting that level by doing things in Roya that range from morally dubious to outright fucked. It shouldn't exactly be surprising that your actions have consequences...

Tell me how to open Roland? It only went out to open 1, and then there is no, I have been training for 20 times, but nothing has changed.
Probably because you haven't done the magic academy stuff.
 

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Red gems mean locked scenes, my guy. It shouldn't be possible to go through all the special study events and have the three gems (above) be red.
 

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Yeah that's another point that I really didn't like about this game's writing is Aura's personality change and I wrote about this in my first review years ago. I feel like she should've been written as a character that you want to root for but instead she becomes this dumb, evil, petty, shallow character to the point where I ended up just hating the character and skimming the dialogue towards the end because of how insufferable she is. Like it gets to a point where I don't even care if she wins. I get that it's "mind control" but it's entirely one dimensional and even if there's a personality change, for someone as smart and principled as she is, how does she not wrestle more with the complete 180 of her values? Why is she only able to affirm and embrace negative changes but not positive ones that resonate with who she really is?

Also, doing evil or self-indulgent things corrupts her, but why doesn't doing good things or things in line with her true self have the opposite effect? It would've introduced some kind of counterbalance so in terms of gameplay your decisions feel like you're fighting for her values and identity. This just ties in with the complaint myself and others have made about how the corruption is functionally linear. It's pretty frustrating to find out how on rails the corruption aspect of it is, especially when it leads to turning the protagonist into someone you just hate.

This is another reason on why I hate how big of a missed opportunity John was. He could've offered another option for a corrupting, NTR relationship while still aiming at keeping Aura on a morally good track. It would've caused her inner turmoil and complicated her relationship with George while delivering more taboo, raunchy scenes and a developing relationship to get invested in. He has everything set up for him to be relevant, but instead spends 95% of the game sitting at a desk staring at a wall.
 
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So is it really not possible at all to go for a corruption run and not turn her into a mean cunt? When I first played a long time ago only the first level of "being a bitch" were available.
Corruption only lead her to bully her friend like a bitch, so no, there are no other way. Unless you stop corruption at some point, however certain "real worlds" events will not happen and even some friend's corruption events.


I could be wrong, but I think psycho bitch Aura only happens/gets unlocked after hitting a certain level of Vice, and you're generally hitting that level by doing things in Roya that range from morally dubious to outright fucked. It shouldn't exactly be surprising that your actions have consequences...



Probably because you haven't done the magic academy stuff.
This is not correct. Sure, Vice make you more "morally wrong", but it's still a corruption trait, and some events with friends can only happen if you have said corruption trait (like corrupting your companion in Roya you need Vice), so no, it's not "a choise you can make" as other said it's completely linear the corruption, and the event play in only a specific way (aside some minor words variations in certain scenes but mostly because some "modification" in Aura mental world). Saying that it's a choice when in reality you mean stop her corruption and go for the good ending. To reach the "corrupted ending" you MUST go down that path.

I get that it's "mind control" but it's entirely one dimensional and even if there's a personality change, for someone as smart and principled as she is, how does she not wrestle more with the complete 180 of her values? Why is she only able to affirm and embrace negative changes but not positive ones that resonate with who she really is?
Ye exactly, and as smart as the story make us believe she is, she never realize she is slowly get brainwashed until "too late". At that point I was like "lol what?". After all that time or you keep her oblivious, or she should be smart enough to figure it out since almost the beginning (which could have been even a good thing to watch, like her struggling in the real world to act normally, but her body acts differently and make her struggle "real", maybe even reading her internal thought that she wants to say something else but ends up acting like a bimbo or a bitch)

Yeah that's another point that I really didn't like about this game's writing is Aura's personality change and I wrote about this in my first review years ago. I feel like she should've been written as a character that you want to root for but instead she becomes this dumb, evil, petty, shallow character to the point where I ended up just hating the character and skimming the dialogue towards the end because of how insufferable she is. Like it gets to a point where I don't even care if she wins. I get that it's "mind control" but it's entirely one dimensional and even if there's a personality change, for someone as smart and principled as she is, how does she not wrestle more with the complete 180 of her values? Why is she only able to affirm and embrace negative changes but not positive ones that resonate with who she really is?

Also, doing evil or self-indulgent things corrupts her, but why doesn't doing good things or things in line with her true self have the opposite effect? It would've introduced some kind of counterbalance so in terms of gameplay your decisions feel like you're fighting for her values and identity. This just ties in with the complaint myself and others have made about how the corruption is functionally linear. It's pretty frustrating to find out how on rails the corruption aspect of it is, especially when it leads to turning the protagonist into someone you just hate.

This is another reason on why I hate how big of a missed opportunity John was. He could've offered another option for a corrupting, NTR relationship while still aiming at keeping Aura on a morally good track. It would've caused her inner turmoil and complicated her relationship with George while delivering more taboo, raunchy scenes and a developing relationship to get invested in. He has everything set up for him to be relevant, but instead spends 95% of the game sitting at a desk staring at a wall.
I completely understand you and agree with you. Also to me, the way the story was written, it feel like author lost interest and/or motivation and some point he just rushed for the end, not caring anymore for the characters he introduced so far. Maybe it's not like this, but the way how he barely developed John, Hermann, even Liliana is a good character that could futher "corrupt her", breaking her into becoming Mary, it just so much wasted potential, because the basic idea was good, but poorly developed. Also it should have give us an option to "decide" if spend time with George, and maybe with high corruption, we could make her decide to not do it and spend it doing something else, like having a proper impact in the real world.
 

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I’m new to the game but enjoy it so far.

I wasn’t sure though, if I want to do the corruption/lewd route how fast should I be progressing in regular quests? Doing lewd actions is clear enough but I don’t know how fast I should be doing the regular quests and I don’t want to end up on the pure route where she doesn’t fully corrupt.
 

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I’m new to the game but enjoy it so far.

I wasn’t sure though, if I want to do the corruption/lewd route how fast should I be progressing in regular quests? Doing lewd actions is clear enough but I don’t know how fast I should be doing the regular quests and I don’t want to end up on the pure route where she doesn’t fully corrupt.
As long as you don't finish the game you can finish the corruption route. There are a few scenes along the way that you can miss, but the endings vary so much that you'd need to play through the game a couple times to see all the variations of the corruption endings anyway. Some of the 'purity' route endings also result in Aura being in a less than pure state.
 
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Ye exactly, and as smart as the story make us believe she is, she never realize she is slowly get brainwashed until "too late". At that point I was like "lol what?". After all that time or you keep her oblivious, or she should be smart enough to figure it out since almost the beginning (which could have been even a good thing to watch, like her struggling in the real world to act normally, but her body acts differently and make her struggle "real", maybe even reading her internal thought that she wants to say something else but ends up acting like a bimbo or a bitch)
That's intentional and a part of the curse. Even Rose suspected some brainwashing just based on how much Aura denies even possibility of being brainwashed. So it's not about the cleverness it's really just a direct effect of the curse.

I feel like she should've been written as a character that you want to root for but instead she becomes this dumb, evil, petty, shallow character to the point where I ended up just hating the character and skimming the dialogue towards the end because of how insufferable she is. Like it gets to a point where I don't even care if she wins. I get that it's "mind control" but it's entirely one dimensional and even if there's a personality change, for someone as smart and principled as she is, how does she not wrestle more with the complete 180 of her values? Why is she only able to affirm and embrace negative changes but not positive ones that resonate with who she really is?
Also to me, the way the story was written, it feel like author lost interest and/or motivation and some point he just rushed for the end, not caring anymore for the characters he introduced so far. Maybe it's not like this, but the way how he barely developed John, Hermann, even Liliana is a good character that could futher "corrupt her", breaking her into becoming Mary, it just so much wasted potential, because the basic idea was good, but poorly developed. Also it should have give us an option to "decide" if spend time with George, and maybe with high corruption, we could make her decide to not do it and spend it doing something else, like having a proper impact in the real world.
I think you are missing the point. It's like you are under impression that aura-dev wanted to make corrupted Aura likable but failed it. Maybe he would correct me but after two years of watching the development of this game I think that making the Bad ending to feel bad for player was really an intent all along. The whole "interesting sexy scenes that liberate Aura" was just his way of luring players into corruption choices, the same as gameplay bonuses of such choices. And when player goes down on this path and breaks the character - soon he faces the consequences. Gameplay and story consequences.
 
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If it were just part of the curse then there wouldn't be any introspection on her part. There is dialogue about it but it's so weak willed and lackadaisical that it feels utterly disconnected and inconsistent with her character on any level whatsoever. And we're not just talking about differences of opinion in her personality change, there are moral ones with no compelling justification for it in her IRL scenes which is where she is primarily insufferable.

And nowhere did I say that the dev meant to make a corrupted Aura likeable. We are pointing out that she obviously isn't and that we think it was a bad design choice. Why would I want to keep playing an porn rpg game where I hate the protagonist? If that was their intent and you really like how Aura becomes evil, cruel, and stupid then they did a good job I guess. Glad you enjoyed all the scenes where Aura gets into fights with her friends, bullies and insults them before moving on to the next shoe shopping scene. Personally, I don't see the appeal of it but at least someone likes it. Just not really what I was hoping for in a porn game.
 
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If it were just part of the curse then there wouldn't be any introspection on her part. There is dialogue about it but it's so weak willed and lackadaisical that it feels utterly disconnected and inconsistent with her character on any level whatsoever. And we're not just talking about differences of opinion in her personality change, there are moral ones with no compelling justification for it in her IRL scenes which is where she is primarily insufferable.

And nowhere did I say that the dev meant to make a corrupted Aura likeable. We are pointing out that she obviously isn't and that we think it was a bad design choice. Why would I want to keep playing an porn rpg game where I hate the protagonist? If that was their intent and you really like how Aura becomes evil, cruel, and stupid then they did a good job I guess. Glad you enjoyed all the scenes where Aura gets into fights with her friends, bullies and insults them before moving on to the next shoe shopping scene. Personally, I don't see the appeal of it but at least someone likes it. Just not really what I was hoping for in a porn game.
Well, I don't see it as a porn game, just a good rpg-game with optional sex scenes. I like the story, characters and gameplay. And I don't like the evil cruel Aura and that's why I am trying to avoid such scenario. I didn't even see the bad ending, just read some facts about it. So I am against corruption of Aura and if you don't like the consequences of corruption you could avoid it by not giving up into corruption. The whole "Aura gets into fights with her friends, bullies and insults them before moving on to the next shoe shopping scene" is optional and you could get to the end without it. It's harder but that's the point.
 
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If it were just part of the curse then there wouldn't be any introspection on her part. There is dialogue about it but it's so weak willed and lackadaisical that it feels utterly disconnected and inconsistent with her character on any level whatsoever. And we're not just talking about differences of opinion in her personality change, there are moral ones with no compelling justification for it in her IRL scenes which is where she is primarily insufferable.

And nowhere did I say that the dev meant to make a corrupted Aura likeable. We are pointing out that she obviously isn't and that we think it was a bad design choice. Why would I want to keep playing an porn rpg game where I hate the protagonist? If that was their intent and you really like how Aura becomes evil, cruel, and stupid then they did a good job I guess. Glad you enjoyed all the scenes where Aura gets into fights with her friends, bullies and insults them before moving on to the next shoe shopping scene. Personally, I don't see the appeal of it but at least someone likes it. Just not really what I was hoping for in a porn game.
Spoilers below, I went into a rant to give my take on your points.

You're aware that Luciela/Alicia is changing Aura exactly the way *she* wants to change her, right? She's altering her personality and viewpoints in a direction that Alicia herself was changed by Dolus. She is putting HER OWN spin on Aura! I mean think about it, she gets rid of all of her studying material books so that she wouldn't concern herself with studying and instead focus on 'better' things. Things that Alicia herself is interested. And last I checked, Richard himself studies at his own pace and is originally the second best scorer at the beginning of the story.

Think about it some more. Aura starts to despise people who don't dress 'well' enough, that don't put effort into their appearance, that have no care for how they are perceived by others. She ends up bullying them, being forceful and later harsh towards them with her language. She doesn't care about studying anymore, she cares a lot about her outward appearance and is interested in looking the best that she can be, about being popular, about being complimented. Now...who exactly does that remind us of? OH! Yeah, Alicia!

The difference between Aura and Alicia is that Aura's core personality remains much the same, while her behaviour and opinionated personality changes. She is still someone who is strong-willed, thoroughly believing in what she stands for (pre and post corruption alike) and stubborn. You know...Like Richard. But the things she stands for change.

What's actually most unexpected from Alicia's point of view is that she did not expect Aura to surpass her. Aura proves that she is better, more competent, more effective and more thorough than Alicia is. The fact that Aura is able to get the entire "Library study group" to change by herself WITHOUT Alicia telling or forcing her to do so...Especially Laura whom Alicia couldn't get to change herself: it shows where the story is headed.

Alicia is slowly getting cast aside, little by little. Aura is beginning to overtake her in popularity in her own mean girl group, and Richard is starting to stop caring about Alicia altogether and focusing on Aura: as if Alicia's time is coming to an end and Aura is becoming the full replacement. Even in her more "meat" like status, she is still far more human than Alicia is in Richard's eyes.



It's also a bit amusing that both Alicia and Aura have the same first and last letters to their name. Idk if that was intentional, probably not...But I think it adds to it too.
 

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It isn't the shift from being strong-willed and opinionated about her hobbies and interests, it's the weak rationalizations and acceptance of the change itself that I don't find compelling. Particularly on the moral aspect of her behavior. This is also why I'm not really a fan of mind control because it just teeters too much into "It's magic I ain't gotta explain shit" land. Either the mind control is written to be subtle, believable changes and lowering of inhibitions that Aura can rationalize her shift in a believable way so as to not alert her that something is wrong, or it just goes into the lazy copout of, "Wow! My moral compass really pulled a 180 these past few weeks!", Nah she wouldn't notice cuz mind control bro.

I think this game falls into the latter category. And all this just to say that none of these are changes that I as a player am even remotely interested in or what I was hoping for. People defending all the shoe shopping and makeup and omg look at this jewelry scenes is full on bizarro world on top of the bullying and cruel behavior is so alien to me that I can't fathom how there an audience for this or what the appeal is. I said it in my very first review and I'll say it again. This is definitely not the kind of corruption I was hoping for from a porn game.
 
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