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There are bottlenecks, including the art budget and development time. Also such scenes would have to be integrated with the gameplay, which in a way punishes players for doing the H by adding Corruption. You'd have players complaining "oh I can't do all the H because it Game Overs me". The H aspect of the game is taxed for being in a JRPG, both in time and budget. The game in your signature OTOH is free to be a fuckfest with a bare skeleton of gameplay that isn't particularly meaningful.
Case and point, but I'll take the bait I guess: What is your definition of 'meaningful gameplay' then? Surely its not RPGM's mindless turn-based combat? You could strip that completely out of this game and it would be infinitely more enjoyable in a heartbeat. The "gameplay" of messing around in the MC's head, and slowly twisting her into a total slut, is great and I don't mind it at all, and find it to be unique and its what drew me to the game in the first place. However, the entire rest of the game falls apart after that, when you have to sit through a slog of thousands of lines of dialogue, and all you wanna do is push the character around and get them into sexual situations because you know... its a porn game, and yet you have to "fight" the game to get too any of it, and once you finally arrive too it, it ends immediately(almost).
 

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Case and point, but I'll take the bait I guess: What is your definition of 'meaningful gameplay' then? Surely its not RPGM's mindless turn-based combat? You could strip that completely out of this game and it would be infinitely more enjoyable in a heartbeat.
Having a challenging gameplay loop that is driven by player skill and knowledge of the game. In SKA you:

  • Learn enemy tactics and how to counter them
  • Decide how to spend your gold, balancing power gain with spending required to advance through the plot
  • Decide how to efficiently use your materials to make your character stronger while making sure it's worth the expense
  • Craft items you think you're going to use in future battles
  • Either evade enemies, or decide which ones to remove from the map
  • Decide when to use items that last for a day, to maximize your progress
  • Manage Willpower and work around curses
  • Make sure Corruption doesn't overflow, and ideally keep it low so it doesn't hurt your stats
  • (Optionally) strategically use drugs, making sure it's worth the addiction and corruption cost

Almost none of this is stock RPGM combat, I'm sick of reading that. Not only is SKA one of the best options when it comes to gameplay in a H-game, it's a solid JRPG all on its own. But for someone not looking for non-H gameplay at all, obviously that aspect is going to get in the way of their enjoyment. I think just being in the H-RPG category sets up some player expectations that turn into frustration once they realize this really is a full-length JRPG that's in no hurry to get them off.

Admittedly, I think punishing the player by adding Corruption for H-scenes may have gone too far, and I think there is room for scenes where Aura does H without Corruption or monetary / stat gain.

Arguably the whole "Corruption is bad and needs to be spent" should have been automatic and not stat-driven, given that the Earth corruption is mostly linear anyway. Just let Alicia spend the points without danger of a Game Over or reduced stats.
 

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Hi!

Perhaps you don't know, but you guys are complaing about things (clothing, undercity, side characters etc) that will have improvements in the future. Please check the roadmap:



PS: Thank you Aura Dev for the future Roland content, love it :love::love:
 
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Case and point, but I'll take the bait I guess: What is your definition of 'meaningful gameplay' then? Surely its not RPGM's mindless turn-based combat? You could strip that completely out of this game and it would be infinitely more enjoyable in a heartbeat. The "gameplay" of messing around in the MC's head, and slowly twisting her into a total slut, is great and I don't mind it at all, and find it to be unique and its what drew me to the game in the first place. However, the entire rest of the game falls apart after that, when you have to sit through a slog of thousands of lines of dialogue, and all you wanna do is push the character around and get them into sexual situations because you know... its a porn game, and yet you have to "fight" the game to get too any of it, and once you finally arrive too it, it ends immediately(almost).
That's what you don't get. It's not a porn game where you just see sexual situations one after another. It's a good game that contains porn scenes. And that means a player is supposed to play, not just wait for another sexual situation.

Story with thousand lines of dialog, battles mechanics - if you delete all this than there would be almost nothing left. That's the main reason why so many people rate this game high (and other people rate this game low but first people are leading).
 

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Having a challenging gameplay loop that is driven by player skill and knowledge of the game. In SKA you:

  • Learn enemy tactics and how to counter them
  • Decide how to spend your gold, balancing power gain with spending required to advance through the plot
  • Decide how to efficiently use your materials to make your character stronger while making sure it's worth the expense
  • Craft items you think you're going to use in future battles
  • Either evade enemies, or decide which ones to remove from the map
  • Decide when to use items that last for a day, to maximize your progress
  • Manage Willpower and work around curses
  • Make sure Corruption doesn't overflow, and ideally keep it low so it doesn't hurt your stats
  • (Optionally) strategically use drugs, making sure it's worth the addiction and corruption cost

Almost none of this is stock RPGM combat, I'm sick of reading that. Not only is SKA one of the best options when it comes to gameplay in a H-game, it's a solid JRPG all on its own. But for someone not looking for non-H gameplay at all, obviously that aspect is going to get in the way of their enjoyment. I think just being in the H-RPG category sets up some player expectations that turn into frustration once they realize this really is a full-length JRPG that's in no hurry to get them off.

Admittedly, I think punishing the player by adding Corruption for H-scenes may have gone too far, and I think there is room for scenes where Aura does H without Corruption or monetary / stat gain.

Arguably the whole "Corruption is bad and needs to be spent" should have been automatic and not stat-driven, given that the Earth corruption is mostly linear anyway. Just let Alicia spend the points without danger of a Game Over or reduced stats.
The #Nooticer
 

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it is disappointing that there isnt really any customization in the corruption aspect. with how it's laid out, it feels like there should be but it really is just click everything with zero agency which is frustrating. like i hate how aura dresses like a caricature of a hooker and looks so radically different from just the first corruption room. some aspects i can forgive because it'd be exponentially more work like branching storylines with how you influence relationships but i feel like the appearance wouldve been an easy win.

also wish the dev would revamp the early game lewd scenes to actually progress in a way that makes sense instead of just a bunch of one-off zero character progression scenes. it almost feels like those scenes weren't even supposed to be there in the first place and the dev just added them as an afterthought. trying to revisit the game after so many updates and im just reminded of how much of a slog alot of it is.
one other gripe of mine is that the fantasy world feels quite half assed to be honest like among the many examples aura defeats a demon general and there isnt a grand welcome back at the city gates, actually no welcome back at all
great ive destroyed a demon general lets go to the guild *nobodys coming to greet aura* hi mister clerk hi aura my god what an achievement here are a meager 2k from damn sardine :fishemoji: for killing the 3-6th greatest menace to humanity
done on to the next quest. and the party doesn't do or say anything apart from maybe if you directly interact with them yourself..

I kind of agree with Richard when he calls everyone an NPC to be honest
 
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I think just being in the H-RPG category sets up some player expectations that turn into frustration once they realize this really is a full-length JRPG that's in no hurry to get them off.
(And yet it's advertised and sold as a porn game. Why should the expectations of those be faulted who expected a porn game but instead got a full fledged RPG with porn sprinkled here and there?)
Edit: I reread the advertise line on itch.io again and I admit it's ambigious what the game really offers to the player. Nonetheless I leave my statement about expectations just to leave it as food for thought.

The ratio of being a RPG and porn is not made equal....by a long shot. No wonder the most critique this game has is the lack of porn content.
I mean look at the poll shown in the roadmap post. :HideThePain:

In all honesty this should have made already into the base game by release and not as an update afterwards. At this point many players already have or will have completed the game and given the scope and length of the game I doubt many will be revisiting it and just rip the CGs off.

Take the porn out of the game and it would still work perfectly fine and stand on it's own. That's how much the porn feels like an afterthought in the whole process of developing the game.

Would have risen the game in popularity as it has without porn content? Who knows but it was the thing that hooked many players in so in that regard it's a shame that this aspect didn't get much love from the dev.
 
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And yet it's advertised and sold as a porn game. Why should the expectations of those be faulted who expected a porn game but instead got a full fledged RPG with porn sprinkled here and there?

The ratio of being a RPG and porn is not made equal....by a long shot. No wonder the most critique this game has is the lack of porn content.
I mean look at the poll shown in the roadmap post. :HideThePain:

In all honesty this should have made already into the base game by release and not as an update afterwards. At this point many players already have or will have completed the game and given the scope and length of the game I doubt many will be revisiting it and just rip the CGs off.

Take the porn out of the game and it would still work perfectly fine and stand on it's own. That's how much the porn feels like an afterthought in the whole process of developing the game.

Would have risen the game in popularity as it has without porn content? Who knows but it was the thing that hooked many players in so in that regard it's a shame that this aspect didn't get much love from the dev.
There's no 'full fledged JRPG' here (also, why J? Is the dev Japanese?). I honestly can't understand the glazing this game gets. Like, if the bloated, poorly written plot in this one can be considered as something 'full fledged' then 90% of the slop under the RPGM tag on this site should be as well. No, really, it took me 10 hours to get to the banquet of greed (or whatever it was called) only because of all the bloat and poor design choices. I was holding ctrl most of the time despite being an avid reader (I'm a sucker for long VNs and RPGs) but the dialogues in this one are just plain painful to read. Literally makes you feel like you're losing brain cells every time there's a dialogue between Alicia and Aura.
 
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D Dave

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you got it right, its a porn GAME.
And a well balanced on top of it, which is rare for F95 content.
For a quick fap, there are tons of Terrabytes of videos here, hundreds of boring "wasted my time"-category games.

I am glad that the primary focus was the game, rather than porn.
 

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hey guys, which scenes grant levels in exhibitionism? I wanted to get seductive stance but I need level 4 in exhibitionism and I didn't get the pink scene for the first one that gives you a point
 

Disarace

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hey guys, which scenes grant levels in exhibitionism? I wanted to get seductive stance but I need level 4 in exhibitionism and I didn't get the pink scene for the first one that gives you a point
Painter in the village south of the big city.
 

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Re: porn vs game

At its core, SKA subverts expectations that gamers have. For example (trivial):in many games, gamers save their consumables to a fault. Here, this ingrained habit can be your downfall.

For another example: in most FMC-centric corruption+combat games, the female protagonist (be it a magical girl, a female knight, a Makina-like adventurer, etc.), will both grow more lewd and more powerful. This isn’t the case here; if the corruption grows too fast, Aura accumulates more and more maluses. It’s thé ingrained habit that gamers have that is spun on its head; sure, you can lewd Aura up and turn her into a whore, but then don’t expect smooth sailing in the combat phase.

The game has 5 different difficulty settings for this reason: you care more about the porn than the combat mechanics, then Story difficulty is perfect.
Or: you routinely play your heroines as virgins (thereby turning porn games into non-porn)? Then SKA will challenge all your brain cells.

Sure, in a world where indy devs are millionnaires, we could have thousands of illustrated or even animated lewd scenes, but we don’t live in such a world. Still, there’s plenty to see here, in later stages of the game, once Aura is corrupt enough. But you’ll have to actually play to see those scenes
 

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hey guys, which scenes grant levels in exhibitionism? I wanted to get seductive stance but I need level 4 in exhibitionism and I didn't get the pink scene for the first one that gives you a point
In general it'd be scenes where Aura is asked to show off her body. You can actually use the recollection room to sort of hunt down specific lewd stats. Just look through the tags option for a scene. I've never checked to make sure they're fully accurate, but they should give you a good idea about what lewd stats will increase from a given scene.
 

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There is less than a month left for the official release of the game, hopefully there is an ending where Aura leaves George, in this type of game I hate bullying towards someone weaker, but George surpasses the limits of pathetic and gullible, on my hate scale he would be second only surpassed by Richard.
 

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Having a challenging gameplay loop that is driven by player skill and knowledge of the game. In SKA you:

  • Learn enemy tactics and how to counter them
  • Decide how to spend your gold, balancing power gain with spending required to advance through the plot
  • Decide how to efficiently use your materials to make your character stronger while making sure it's worth the expense
  • Craft items you think you're going to use in future battles
  • Either evade enemies, or decide which ones to remove from the map
  • Decide when to use items that last for a day, to maximize your progress
  • Manage Willpower and work around curses
  • Make sure Corruption doesn't overflow, and ideally keep it low so it doesn't hurt your stats
  • (Optionally) strategically use drugs, making sure it's worth the addiction and corruption cost

Almost none of this is stock RPGM combat, I'm sick of reading that. Not only is SKA one of the best options when it comes to gameplay in a H-game, it's a solid JRPG all on its own. But for someone not looking for non-H gameplay at all, obviously that aspect is going to get in the way of their enjoyment. I think just being in the H-RPG category sets up some player expectations that turn into frustration once they realize this really is a full-length JRPG that's in no hurry to get them off.

Admittedly, I think punishing the player by adding Corruption for H-scenes may have gone too far, and I think there is room for scenes where Aura does H without Corruption or monetary / stat gain.

Arguably the whole "Corruption is bad and needs to be spent" should have been automatic and not stat-driven, given that the Earth corruption is mostly linear anyway. Just let Alicia spend the points without danger of a Game Over or reduced stats.
(And yet it's advertised and sold as a porn game. Why should the expectations of those be faulted who expected a porn game but instead got a full fledged RPG with porn sprinkled here and there?)
Edit: I reread the advertise line on itch.io again and I admit it's ambigious what the game really offers to the player. Nonetheless I leave my statement about expectations just to leave it as food for thought.

The ratio of being a RPG and porn is not made equal....by a long shot. No wonder the most critique this game has is the lack of porn content.
I mean look at the poll shown in the roadmap post. :HideThePain:

In all honesty this should have made already into the base game by release and not as an update afterwards. At this point many players already have or will have completed the game and given the scope and length of the game I doubt many will be revisiting it and just rip the CGs off.

Take the porn out of the game and it would still work perfectly fine and stand on it's own. That's how much the porn feels like an afterthought in the whole process of developing the game.

Would have risen the game in popularity as it has without porn content? Who knows but it was the thing that hooked many players in so in that regard it's a shame that this aspect didn't get much love from the dev.
I've played "worse" games in rpg to cg ratio, pronant simphony for example is one and I mostly enjoyed it. the fact that I still remember its name after 5 years probably accounts for something. however what I feel here with this game is that resources have still been stretched a little thin. i wont repeat everything I said 6 posts above but the fantasy part of the game is just lacking. maybe even the story in general. I am okay with the amount of CGs, personally I dont even think they are that few but I can see why others would think that way.

but if this is to be a full fledged RPG I expect (not *really* expecting obviously, I haven't paid a dime apart from a 1 month subscription) a proper roleplay fantasy game, the fantasy part is more than long enough in its gameplay but the story and the world are just shabby.
I remember a part where gambling addicted megumin trauma dumps on aura with sad music and all, am I supposed to feel for a character who has spoken probably 50 text boxes in total? nah

or maybe as another guy said the writing is bland, and it's bland enough to make it feel like they've talked little. idk.

edit: I've gotta add though that the game itself is incredibly well made, the developer even gives access to the custom plugins he's created for it and even the source of the game itself for public contribution ( with a request for access wall which I dont quite understand you can access everything with RPGM iirc). a tidyness very rarely seen among devs here which can't even write a function to avoid writing the same 5 lines 400 times.
yes I've seen it happen on renpy games while trying to understand why a choice was greyed out. they've figured it out after years of updates.
 
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