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Does anyone know how to unlock victoria scenes?. I trying following some video online but I don't get dialogue option.
 

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Hello again. Sorry to write to you again. I preferred to wait a bit before asking the same question again. I know you're busy and might have forgotten. But I was wondering, do you know anything about the iPatch? If I understood correctly, you were saying someone was working on it, right? Unless I misunderstood, since I'm not a native English speaker.

So I was wondering if there was any progress. Because, as I said in my last message, if the iPatch isn't updated, not only will the texts not be oriented correctly, but we also risk invalidating our save, which, once you get to certain points in the game, won't allow you to progress. To avoid having to play multiple times, I prefer to wait for your reply.

Thanks you
So because many people have asked about it since January when the patch was lasted updated I did a quick and dirty analysis on it and it does not appear to need updating through v0.70.

I won't bore anyone with the specifics on how the patch works but trust me when I say it is semi universal and going forward, baring the introduction of new characters/variables/mistakes on Winterlook's part, it shouldn't need updating unless the new scenes directly involve or reference Cassandra, Lara, Adam, or Tom; even then it still might not need updating depending on the context of those scenes. Also with the way it works there's little to no risk with using an outdated patch cause it does not overwrite any files. The worst that should happen with the way Winterlook has been doing things is you'll get a skippable error and miss out on part of a scene which if you choose to do shouldn't screw up your save going forward.

Again this is not a 100% guarantee of current or future functionality cause I'm not the dev on either the game or the patch but as a coder I can say based on what I saw assuming Winterlook doesn't change their methodology or make any typos/other errors what I've said hold true.
 

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So because many people have asked about it since January when the patch was lasted updated I did a quick and dirty analysis on it and it does not appear to need updating through v0.70.

I won't bore anyone with the specifics on how the patch works but trust me when I say it is semi universal and going forward, baring the introduction of new characters/variables/mistakes on Winterlook's part, it shouldn't need updating unless the new scenes directly involve or reference Cassandra, Lara, Adam, or Tom; even then it still might not need updating depending on the context of those scenes. Also with the way it works there's little to no risk with using an outdated patch cause it does not overwrite any files. The worst that should happen with the way Winterlook has been doing things is you'll get a skippable error and miss out on part of a scene which if you choose to do shouldn't screw up your save going forward.

Again this is not a 100% guarantee of current or future functionality cause I'm not the dev on either the game or the patch but as a coder I can say based on what I saw assuming Winterlook doesn't change their methodology or make any typos/other errors what I've said hold true.
Hi, I'm sure you've checked the mod. My concerns stem from the fact that the very old iPatches wouldn't allow you to proceed unless they were updated. This meant having to restart the game from scratch. Because the save was bugged. Now, it's possible that your check only affects that point. So perhaps now, the iPatch no longer bugs the save.
I'll start by saying that I'm not a modder. But if the iPatch didn't have any problems in terms of writing, why, when I get to this scene:
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The MC doesn't call her mom, but Cassandra? Until this event, I didn't see any mistakes like this. But here, during this scene, the MC calls her by her name and not "mom/mother." Of course, there are also phrases that suggest she's the mother, like she say: you're are coming back inside me, but this time its different. You are coming back as a man, here to conquer me. But then when you read the MC say, "Cassandra," the scene falls apart, if you know what I mean.
This is where I start to suspect that the iPatch needs some little fixed. Otherwise I don't understand why in almost all the events with Cassandra, he calls her mom, but here Cassandra instead...

I repeat, I'm not a modder. Nor am I a native English speaker. Perhaps I mistranslated something in the translation. Or I didn't understand something. So in that case, I repeat, I can't understand why he call her Cassandra here. And I wouldn't want that continue to play find out that the MC in other event continue calling her Cassandra, as if she weren't his mother.

Anyway, when you checked the iPatch, did you notice that it doesn't cause any save bugs? Or plot blocks? At least, this way we avoid the fear of having to start the game over from scratch... like in the old iPatches :LOL:

Anyway thank you
 
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Hi, I'm sure you've checked the mod. My concerns stem from the fact that the very old iPatches wouldn't allow you to proceed unless they were updated. This meant having to restart the game from scratch. Because the save was bugged. Now, it's possible that your check only affects that point. So perhaps now, the iPatch no longer bugs the save.
I'll start by saying that I'm not a modder. But if the iPatch didn't have any problems in terms of writing, why, when I get to this scene:
I'm putting the spoiler so that the image doesn't make the comment too big
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The MC doesn't call her mom, but Cassandra? Until this event, I didn't see any mistakes like this. But here, during this scene, the MC calls her by her name and not "mom/mother." Of course, there are also phrases that suggest she's the mother, like she say: you're are coming back inside me, but this time its different. You are coming back as a man, here to conquer me. But then when you read the MC say, "Cassandra," the scene falls apart, if you know what I mean.
This is where I start to suspect that the iPatch needs some little fixed. Otherwise I don't understand why in almost all the events with Cassandra, he calls her mom, but here Cassandra instead...

I repeat, I'm not a modder. Nor am I a native English speaker. Perhaps I mistranslated something in the translation. Or I didn't understand something. So in that case, I repeat, I can't understand why he call her Cassandra here. And I wouldn't want that continue to play find out that the MC in other event continue calling her Cassandra, as if she weren't his mother.

Anyway, when you checked the iPatch, did you notice that it doesn't cause any save bugs? Or plot blocks? At least, this way we avoid the fear of having to start the game over from scratch... like in the old iPatches :LOL:

Anyway thank you
confirm if patch work for this update or not . anybody ?
 

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confirm if patch work for this update or not . anybody ?
According to Obsidion69 says there are no problems with the iPatch.
In my case, I can't confirm yet, because I've reached the point mentioned above, where the MC finally had sex/love with his mother (Cassandra).
Having played from the beginning up to that point, I can only confirm that there are small text errors. Like the one I show in the image in the previous comment. Perhaps they are just oversights. But then again, I think only Sonic5467 can confirm whether the iPatch is 100% update. Also because in his last comment he said that they better say he is getting to it. With he, I think he meant those who fix the iPatch. I hope the iPatch is updated obviously, because I stopped a long time ago. And in fact I had to restart the game from scratch again for the 6th time :LOL: since if you haven't played for a long time, you tend to forget some things.

Anyway again thank you at Sonic5467 who continues to bring us the iPatch.
If only the author would introduce a relationship system, all this would be unnecessary. I understand that Patreon's ugly rules now prevent him from expressing his creativity 100%. And that's why I say... everything would be easier if he introduced a relationship system at the beginning of the game.
 
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According to Obsidion69 says there are no problems with the iPatch.
In my case, I can't confirm yet, because I've reached the point mentioned above, where the MC finally had sex/love with his mother (Cassandra).
Having played from the beginning up to that point, I can only confirm that there are small text errors. Like the one I show in the image in the previous comment. Perhaps they are just oversights. But then again, I think only Sonic5467 can confirm whether the iPatch is 100% update. Also because in his last comment he said that they better say he is getting to it. With he, I think he meant those who fix the iPatch. I hope the iPatch is updated obviously, because I stopped a long time ago. And in fact I had to restart the game from scratch again for the 6th time :LOL: since if you haven't played for a long time, you tend to forget some things.

Anyway again thank you at Sonic5467 who continues to bring us the iPatch.
If only the author would introduce a relationship system, all this would be unnecessary. I understand that Patreon's ugly rules now prevent him from expressing his creativity 100%. And that's why I say... everything would be easier if he introduced a relationship system at the beginning of the game.
I played it and well mc doesn't call her mom with the patch he calls her Cassandra even in the older repeatable scenes , though the relationship still says mother when you open the menu which shows profile of different people but yeah it doesn't work when scenes or even a conversation happens.
 

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Hey, how is the game coming along? Last time I checked we're about to go to hope 2, any changes since then?
 

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Hi, I'm sure you've checked the mod. My concerns stem from the fact that the very old iPatches wouldn't allow you to proceed unless they were updated. This meant having to restart the game from scratch. Because the save was bugged. Now, it's possible that your check only affects that point. So perhaps now, the iPatch no longer bugs the save.
I'll start by saying that I'm not a modder. But if the iPatch didn't have any problems in terms of writing, why, when I get to this scene:
I'm putting the spoiler so that the image doesn't make the comment too big
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

The MC doesn't call her mom, but Cassandra? Until this event, I didn't see any mistakes like this. But here, during this scene, the MC calls her by her name and not "mom/mother." Of course, there are also phrases that suggest she's the mother, like she say: you're are coming back inside me, but this time its different. You are coming back as a man, here to conquer me. But then when you read the MC say, "Cassandra," the scene falls apart, if you know what I mean.
This is where I start to suspect that the iPatch needs some little fixed. Otherwise I don't understand why in almost all the events with Cassandra, he calls her mom, but here Cassandra instead...

I repeat, I'm not a modder. Nor am I a native English speaker. Perhaps I mistranslated something in the translation. Or I didn't understand something. So in that case, I repeat, I can't understand why he call her Cassandra here. And I wouldn't want that continue to play find out that the MC in other event continue calling her Cassandra, as if she weren't his mother.

Anyway, when you checked the iPatch, did you notice that it doesn't cause any save bugs? Or plot blocks? At least, this way we avoid the fear of having to start the game over from scratch... like in the old iPatches :LOL:

Anyway thank you
So again the way the patch works it is and should remain 100% save safe.

As to that specific scene it falls under the category of "Winterlook did something". The game is setup in a very patch friendly way but looking at that scene specifically it's not. This meaning either Winterlook screwed up or they want it to always say Cassandra cause to change it would require methods completely different from how the rest of the patch works.
 

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Does anyone know how high your sexual skill needs to be want to do that Favor for the guard during the hope two mission.
 

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Personal opinion setable relationship is always inferior to a patch. Patch allows for more variety in dialogue and tends to make the dialogue feel more genuine
An iPatch is definitely always better. As you point out, it offers more freedom and better expresses the concept.
The problem is that due to Patreon's rules, developers tend to avoid creating problems for themselves. So either they outsource the project to a third party so as not to incur Patreon's harassment. Because by outsourcing it to a third party, they can easily say: "I had nothing to do with it, I didn't ask for it" (in which case they're fine). Or the developer imposes himself, creates his own iPatch and doesn't post it on Patreon but on another site. In that case, it should be something like SubscribeStar. Make two versions of the game, one for Patreon and one for SubscribeStar, so as not to fall foul of Patreon's policies.

And that's why I was saying... if you start by giving the player a relationship system, at least you're starting from a foundation. The game will never fall into the trap of making a mistake with the name you set in the relationships. Afterwards, if you want, you can add an iPatch to enhance your writing even more. The problem with iPatches is that these days, those who make them keep them closed. And you need programs to open them. Programs that not everyone knows how to use. For example, I don't even have Notepad++ on my PC. I even tried downloading it, but strangely, even when I try to open it, look like encrypted :LOL: If the iPatch were open and accessible, you could just go in, search for the incorrect phrase, and replace it...

I've done this with some games. The iPatch was an already accessible file. I'd search for the specific text and change the incorrect text. Because sometimes there can be an oversight. Or the developer, to expand certain scenes, goes back to that scene and changes the text to adapt it to the new needs. So even a small change requires the person who made the iPatch to go back and correct it. I say this because in one of super old version of the iPatch, in that scene he said "Mom" and not "Cassandra." So something has changed.

So again the way the patch works it is and should remain 100% save safe.

As to that specific scene it falls under the category of "Winterlook did something". The game is setup in a very patch friendly way but looking at that scene specifically it's not. This meaning either Winterlook screwed up or they want it to always say Cassandra cause to change it would require methods completely different from how the rest of the patch works.
Just having confirmation that the patch isn't causing any harm is a great start.

I have a vague feeling that the developer, as I mentioned above, has modified that Cassandra event a bit to expand the scene. I'm telling you this because, as I explained, the last version I played was more than a year ago. And a more then a year ago, after the sex scene, the next day, the MC could only choose to shower with is mom (Cassandra). Now, however, I see that a new scene has been added where you can also have morning sex. So, he must have modified something, and now the iPatch needs a small fix.
 

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I played it and well mc doesn't call her mom with the patch he calls her Cassandra even in the older repeatable scenes , though the relationship still says mother when you open the menu which shows profile of different people but yeah it doesn't work when scenes or even a conversation happens.
Sorry to ask, but in your case, at every event with Cassandra, does the MC always call her Cassandra? Or only during the first night of sex? Just to clarify, because in my case, unless I'm mistaken, I noticed it during the first night of sex event. So what do you mean in your case?

Thank you
 

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Sorry to ask, but in your case, at every event with Cassandra, does the MC always call her Cassandra? Or only during the first night of sex? Just to clarify, because in my case, unless I'm mistaken, I noticed it during the first night of sex event. So what do you mean in your case?

Thank you
All sex scenes pretty much all of them he calls her by name instead of mom
 

Saiyajin2205

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That's definitely not true. He calls her mom and she calls him her son ect. He never calls her Cassandra unless the patch isn't updated
Not for me that is the point here in this version older stuff got reverted too because patch isn't updated no one is talking about older versions because then it worked well.The whole topic is about the patch not being updated
 

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Not for me that is the point here in this version older stuff got reverted too because patch isn't updated no one is talking about older versions because then it worked well.The whole topic is about the patch not being updated
Even with the patch it still works. Nothings been reverted
 
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cj234

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What are the requirements to place the camera in Cassandra's room? I got the camera from the guard room and have enough intelligence points to hack into her room. I hacked into her room and nothing happened afterwards. What did I miss?
 
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