Did someone say elves?!As the story progresses, a few more characters will appear. They will vary body-wise, especially some of the elven folk.
Did someone say elves?!As the story progresses, a few more characters will appear. They will vary body-wise, especially some of the elven folk.
"No one expects the Elvin Inquisition!"Did someone say elves?!
I had fun playing RfL... but I share the consensus that the MC is a loathsome character... which is a big problem. Plus, the latest update left me completely cold... apart from the (fun to play) racing scenes.Oh, this one has a particularly rich discussion history on this thread. The overall impression is... less than flattering.
For me I personally still consider Race of life a story first game even if this thread does not. But I can see it going the way of being like Seven realms where it's equally story first and lewd focused at the same time. Especially after that lewd scene with Maggie in the update, it came out of no where and felt like something you would see in a porno.I had fun playing RfL... but I share the consensus that the MC is a loathsome character... which is a big problem. Plus, the latest update left me completely cold... apart from the (fun to play) racing scenes.
Still holding out a (tiny) forlorn hope that for the ex-wife route... that's the only path to really interesting character development. But, fundamentally, it's not a story-first game.
It _is_ exceptionally well produced. But, if you want a well produced story-first game there are plenty of options these days... like, say, Impious Monk's game (on jufot's list). Or any of Tlaero's collaborations with Mortze. No need to compromise.
Which brings me to a question: which story-first games are you most enjoying right now... particularly games that are still in progress? For me, it's a short list:
I haven't played Gemini, yet, although it's at the top of my list. Anything new that I'm missing?
- Leaving DNA;
- Corporate Culture;
- Pecker PI (primarily for the slapstick);
- Hillside (although it is on semi-pause, due to Blue's issues); and
- The Bite.
I hesitated for quite a while to try Race of Life. I'm glad I didn't fall for the hype. I have zero interest in playing a jerk/evil MC. I'll leave that for those that like that.For me I personally still consider Race of life a story first game even if this thread does not. But I can see it going the way of being like Seven realms where it's equally story first and lewd focused at the same time. Especially after that lewd scene with Maggie in the update, it came out of no where and felt like something you would see in a porno.
As for what story first game I enjoy the most. Well I only played 3 of 5 of those. Hillside is easily my favorite game because of the characters but I consider Leaving DNA the best AVN ive played when it comes to story, so I guess they are tied.
I think the common thread connecting these 5 games is their lack of cliched writing... which leads to genuine surprises in each episode. That, and the integrity with which the devs treat their characters and their choices.As for what story first game I enjoy the most. Well I only played 3 of 5 of those. Hillside is easily my favorite game you listed because of the characters but I consider Leaving DNA the best AVN ive played when it comes to story, so I guess they are tied. But for a game you didn't list i'm really looking forward to the Neverwhere Tales the most.
eh I don't consider him a jerk or evil MC unless you play that way. Unless his past is enough for you to label him as such for the entire game. There is only maybe 2-3 times I would say he is being an asshole / jerk that isn't warranted without player input but most of the time it's on the player if he acts that way. At least that's how I see it.I hesitated for quite a while to try Race of Life. I'm glad I didn't fall for the hype. I have zero interest in playing a jerk/evil MC. I'll leave that for those that like that.
Proceeding to delete the unopened Zip files of it and removing my watch of it.
Ooof... this one was too close for comfort.
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Too late, and, honestly, not convincing at all. What that tells me is the same as FiN. And if even without player input the MC behaves that way, that tells you EXACTLY how the game was thought has and for what type of public. Since you feel comfortable with FiN, it is no wonder you would feel OK with that too. I simply prefer to stay away. #NoJudgementeh I don't consider him a jerk or evil MC unless you play that way. Unless his past is enough for you to label him as such for the entire game. There is only maybe 2-3 times I would say he is being an asshole / jerk that isn't warranted without player input but most of the time it's on the player if he acts that way. At least that's how I see it.
Nice list, can't question any of the items. However, if Hillside is on the list, I see no reason not to include Isabella: Chasing Shadows. And Zero End would be a nice addition to The Bite. And I don't even mention Summer's Gone, no list is needed for it, it's a must by defaultI had fun playing RfL... but I share the consensus that the MC is a loathsome character... which is a big problem. Plus, the latest update left me completely cold... apart from the (fun to play) racing scenes.
Still holding out a (tiny) forlorn hope that for the ex-wife route... that's the only path to really interesting character development. But, fundamentally, it's not a story-first game.
It _is_ exceptionally well produced. But, if you want a well produced story-first game there are plenty of options these days... like, say, Impious Monk's game (on jufot's list). Or any of Tlaero's collaborations with Mortze. No need to compromise.
Which brings me to a question: which story-first games are you most enjoying right now... particularly games that are still in progress? For me, it's a short list:
I haven't played Gemini, yet, although it's at the top of my list. Anything else new that I'm missing?
- Leaving DNA;
- Corporate Culture;
- Pecker PI (primarily for the slapstick);
- Hillside (although it is on semi-pause, due to Blue's issues); and
- The Bite.
Wasn't trying to convince you I know once your mind is made up it's made up there is no second chances. Just wanted to share my thoughts as I felt it was a bit unfair to label that MC as a jerk MC in present time his past he 100% was. Tho might be the way I played him why I felt strongly enough to share my thoughtsToo late, and, honestly, not convincing at all. What that tells me is the same as FiN. And if even without player input the MC behaves that way, that tells you EXACTLY how the game was thought has and for what type of public. Since you feel comfortable with FiN, it is no wonder you would feel OK with that too. I simply prefer to stay away. #NoJudgement
Peace
I don't.Wasn't trying to convince you I know once your mind is made up it's made up there is no second chances. Just wanted to share my thoughts as I felt it was a bit unfair to label that MC as a jerk MC in present time his past he 100% was. Tho might be the way I played him why I felt strongly enough to share my thoughts
To be fair I don't care one way or another about any MC in any of these games. I don't connect with them or like or hate them. To me a MC is a tool to get to know the characters and the story. I treat them the same I would as a MC playing any video game if it's playing a dark side , light side playthrough in Star Wars Knight of the Old republic. I don't make choices or play a game based on my personal thoughts or feeling for a MC. But rather what I think is fun or my personal goals for said playthrough or game. Which is why I tend to play every path in most games even character I normally would dislike or have no interest in.
fair enough I think honestly playing video games all my life for fun and enjoyment made me not care so much about MC's as I never really been able to immerse or roleplay myself in a game much before. Even in RPG / CRPG's id start out roleplaying and break character because of story or stats haha. I even tried to a few times with AVN's but just never works out cause im honestly a real passive person in real life that wouldn't hurt a fly. So alot of things a MC would do just wouldn't work for me.I don't.
I role-play them as if I was the one making those decisions. I am unable to play like you do. Either I am involved, or I am out. I am built like that.
Playing an asshole, will NEVER work for me. Not that I am a perfectly nice person, I am not. But, doing it on purpose? Nope, it will never happen.
You know, the funny thing is, that I seldom replay these type of games, but when I do, I go in search of the same experience I had the first time. So, I go for the same type of path.
I've left games middle play, if suddenly a choice shows up where I can't really keep MY path going. Even GH, was almost deleted forever. Because no matter how much I try, I can't put a Slave collar on a black woman. Just typing it makes me feel nauseated. Even My Dorm almost went that way, with the Blackmail and Domination paths. I simply can't make myself do it, not for any story ever.
I am aware that that makes me look weak, I couldn't fucking care less, the opinions of outsiders don't sleep on my pillow, mine does. Playing a game/story where the MC I am riding, behaves in such a way, makes me feel dirtied, corrupted, devalued, violated even. So, I'll keep being myself, playing this how I can, and you guys do whatever you want.
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Agree 100% on Isabella... it's a good game. I don't wait for each episode with the same level of anticipation that I do with the others on my list... but I admire Badtimes, and have been a supporter from the beginning. That isn't going to change.Nice list, can't question any of the items. However, if Hillside is on the list, I see no reason not to include Isabella: Chasing Shadows. And Zero End would be a nice addition to The Bite. And I don't even mention Summer's Gone, no list is needed for it, it's a must by default
Maverick starts at the end of his rope, with a higher up ready adn able to end his career - when he gets called back into the Top Gun Program - kind of makes sense - a washed up hardcore machismo nut who likes daring situations being relegated to kindergarten - playing drill pilot to up and coming assholes.The principal problem was that I couldn't wrap my mind about the MC and his cynical unflappability at such a young age. It short circuited my brain.
Personally, I'd love to play that sort of MC... but I'd want it to be difficult, even painful, at the beginning. And redemption should be painful to the MC as well.
Impious Monk is flirting with redemption arcs in _Leaving DNA_ -- but I suspect that any such scheme in his game will only involve the MC tangentially. He doesn't want to be too hard on the player... which makes good commercial sense.
Must be fool's luck.
Either way, I was lucky enough to have no problems with this MC (except for a little annoyance at the MC's unfounded overconfidence).
I respect your choice, absolutely; people role-play games in very different ways. Some players can separate themselves completely from the MC, others can't. Most of us, I suspect, are somewhere in between.Playing an asshole, will NEVER work for me. Not that I am a perfectly nice person, I am not. But, doing it on purpose? Nope, it will never happen.
I have the same vibes, the dude acts cold and self-confident, creates around himself the aura of a superhero or a wizard who has everything under control. But every time he underestimates his opponents and finds himself almost helpless in front of them. But there is always someone or something that pulls his ass out of trouble. Must be fool's luck._Zero End_ was frustrating for me. I _should_ like the game... but just could not get into it, at all. The principal problem was that I couldn't wrap my mind about the MC and his cynical unflappability at such a young age. It short circuited my brain.
I would. 100%. I am a sucker for redemption arcs. BUT. And this is a BIG one. I would have to know beforehand.I respect your choice, absolutely; people role-play games in very different ways. Some players can separate themselves completely from the MC, others can't. Most of us, I suspect, are somewhere in between.
Here's a hypothetical question for you, though: could you play a really serious redemption arc, where the MC starts out _really_ bad... but gradually begins to see himself (or herself) for what they are... and change?
Personally, I'd love to play that sort of MC... but I'd want it to be difficult, even painful, at the beginning. And redemption should be painful to the MC as well.
Impious Monk is flirting with redemption arcs in _Leaving DNA_ -- but I suspect that any such scheme in his game will only involve the MC tangentially. He doesn't want to be too hard on the player... which makes good commercial sense.
Let me tell you about One Day At A Time.I have 2 AVN's in my AVN folder. The first is "A Summers End" because that's just a keeper in my book. Well, and the second one is an old version of "One day at a time". I've never played that one tbh because everytime I look it up on the forum to remind me I go like "Ah, right, it's the one with 100000 renders already.. . I don't know, I guess i'm just too intimidated by the amount of content to check it out .
Other than that, my 3 overall, still ongoing, favourites are. 1. Simple beginnings 2. Gimme a sun 3. Isabella - dark paths