They are supposed to be compatible. I don't recall needing to restart the game since I started playing at v0.6 or 0.7. Interestingly, I remember the opposite problem from v0.9 (I think) that prevented new players from starting a new game and playing to the end of the update, but players who had a save game from the end of the previous update had no problem.
3 months and still no update. Seems more and more developers are slowing down more and more. Bad trend for the industry, yes some exceptions are out there and push solid updates monthly but not very common anymore. Hopefully at some point Patreon will get sued or cancelled and then the industry will have to change.
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Or maybe the updates are bigger and bigger to match players expectations, meaning that the work is heavier, and the time requiered to complete it is longer...
Yeah, obviously, if Patreon goes away, developers will be forced to work harder and faster to create more content for the pirates on F95Zone.
Havik79
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I assume that is something about how to get past the cliff, you sit on your ass and wait until the next update.
Also, you are on English forums, and you are supposed to either write in English or at least provide a translation.
I believe there was a post from the developer just a few days ago saying that an update was imminent. As you said though, a lot of these updates are taking longer and longer to put out. Once a month used to be the norm. The first few days of the month used to bring a deluge of updates for various games. Now three months isn't all that unusual. Some games take several months or longer, and you assume the dev has given up until suddenly an update drops.
I don't know if it just takes longer to make an update now because expectations are higher for renders and gameplay, although there's still plenty of games out there lacking in both. I suspect a lot of it though is that it's a much more crowded market now, and a lot of patreon pages aren't reaching the level of support for "I'll quit my job and work exclusively on this game". There's probably an element too of "well, if every month isn't the norm anymore, let's not rush things". And, unfortunately, there's cases where the dev or devs working on a game are just milking things. I don't think that's the case here. My impression is that it's just taking the dev longer to find time to work on the game and put in what they want for the update.
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it used to be passion.. now milk the damn cow...
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No, the market is not a vacuum. A new player will step up and replace it with a better model. Basic market economics.Yeah, obviously, if Patreon goes away, developers will be forced to work harder and faster to create more content for the pirates on F95Zone.
Which week is "end of next week" (postet 15 July)? I´m confused!?!
I have to read the credits next time...maybe ICSTOR is part of the team now!?
I have to read the credits next time...maybe ICSTOR is part of the team now!?
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The length of time between updates just gets longer and longer, you do not start with years in between, first it is once a month, then every other month, then maybe every 3 to 6 months and bit by bit you spread it out. Icstor did not start out with months in between, heck at first it was actually a monthly update and sometimes even faster. The milkers business model is not a short con, very much a long con game.It's only 3 months, not 3 years!
...but yeah, "next week" was last week.
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Still, it's far too early to compare him to Icstor. There are dozens of "better" examples out there. But yes, whether milking or not. With what feels like 95% of the devs, it takes longer and longer with each update. Whereby many are overwhelmed with the story and the paths. Even reputable devs like EvaKiss are getting slower and slower, soon it will be a year between updates (I don't count rework here). She used to deliver every 1-2 months too. And also Covid was perfect for a lot of devs to use it as an excuse (I'm taking really infected ones out here). It's sad, but as long as there are enough patrons who are willing to pay for nothing for months or even years, nothing will change here.
Patreon...pay your own bitch! Beware of giving to much...bitches will become greedy!
A lot of patrons still pay and lose money....and as long as its worth it....devs will do shit to change!
A lot of patrons still pay and lose money....and as long as its worth it....devs will do shit to change!
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ToshinRaizen
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It's up to paying supporters to push back or withdraw their financial support if they're unhappy with the frequency of updates. As long as they keep supporting a dev, the dev won't change. Personally, it's gotten to the point where three months doesn't seem that long to me anymore, especially for a good update. I'd rather have a good update every three months or so than three bad ones over three months. I think the updates in this game are pretty good. But in others you get the sad combination of "way too long between updates" and "this update sucked". It also helps when the dev does communicate to their supporters about delays versus just going silent and then randomly dropping an update long after they promised.
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You can't climb the cliff for now. But in regard of your quest, you should get a specific dialog when you arrive at the bottom of the cliff (or click on it, I don't remember).
If you don't have it, check that you are playing at 0.10b (not just 0.10).
This is a good example of why so many people do not trust developers , they tell us things and then never stick to the info they provided. This game has not been updated in over 3 months now, the developer said it would be by the end of next week which was over 2+ weeks now. The game still shows stuck at 85%. What is the purpose behind providing updates as to the status of the new game release to only never meet them and just piss off more players. Fanboys seem to accept endless abuse and will accept the never ending abuse and then complain when we point out the fact that the developer is the one causing the legit complaints.