Kohan54

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High greed: they want more money and more luxuries and stuff, so yeah materialistic is a way to look at it. They are also more willing to do stuff for money (i.e. take bribes, sex work, enter amateur contests, etc.). They are also more likely to be unhappy but react more positively to gifts. Less greed means they will take less money to work somewhere but also they will more likely to not work and in general will be happier. Will care less about getting gifts.
Thank you for making it clear I'm still on my first run trying to figure most stuff out.

One more question just to be sure when it comes to having multiple BF's / GF's do I need to both hate mono and like Poly or one opinion is well enough.

Will later try to do new playtrough and this time I won't instantly start hiring people may even postone that and op club until I have Kitchen + Sit Area etc.
 

Fox.Mulder

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Thank you for making it clear I'm still on my first run trying to figure most stuff out.

One more question just to be sure when it comes to having multiple BF's / GF's do I need to both hate mono and like Poly or one opinion is well enough.

Will later try to do new playtrough and this time I won't instantly start hiring people may even postone that and op club until I have Kitchen + Sit Area etc.
I've only tried having poly 2 and cheating -2. Not sure how changing mono would affect things so I've just left that one and not really had any issues I don't think.
 
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Paitryn

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I've always wondered when going someplace private with anyone really but someone you have a relationship in particular, why isn't your or their home one of the options? to go to their home you have to hope and pray they offer, but yours is never an option unless you drag them there then make a move on them.

also can pregnancy be a fetish we turn off and on? I know some people are all about it, not really a big thing for me.
 

Fox.Mulder

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I've always wondered when going someplace private with anyone really but someone you have a relationship in particular, why isn't your or their home one of the options? to go to their home you have to hope and pray they offer, but yours is never an option unless you drag them there then make a move on them.

also can pregnancy be a fetish we turn off and on? I know some people are all about it, not really a big thing for me.
Yes you should be able to turn it off via the user_config file by adding the line base_pregnancy float 0
Should also be able to change your characters fertility to -100. Not sure if it changes over time though.
That being said I'm still a bit confused with the pregnancy change in the config file because mine is set like that and it still kept happening so it might only take effect on new games or something.
 

TotalFluke

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A few things I note while playing.
- Playing v. 1.06 and to me it seems as if the salaries have gone haywire. played for a year or so and the waitresses and similiar jobs demands 20++, even with shitty stats. This is new from earlier versions.

Really struggling to hire people as well, both from way too high salaries and also they simply aren't interested. Not to mention way too few apply for the jobs.

As of now I actually feel this version is a step back :-( Way too difficult.
There were no specific changes to the logic for accepting a job or the wanted salary with this version (or any recent one for that matter). It's probably just a bad luck with RNG and getting several hard to hire girls in a row.

Unrelated but TotalFluke is there any chance the modesty scale will ever expand beyond z1-z12, or somehow allow for a bit more freedom? I know you already do a lot of work so this is more just a thought I was also having when playing with other peoples modpacks as well as some I've made for my own use. Since the guide mentions say "nude" being minimum z9 and maximum z12 there's only ever gonna be 4 images that will fit in that slot for potential selection. Moreover I assume there's not much point going beyond z0-2 for biz/cas/bc/fun outfits (or any other category) to add more potential variety since I expect they'd never actually get worn due to the value going above the recommended level, even if the actual image still fits thematically?
Not to say this isn't already pretty good I just wonder if it's likely to expand or change. Or even be increased slightly via a mod/command?
I think I just enjoy how the sandbox can be used and changed by players if they want haha, takes me back to playing a lot of different runs of Brothel King a few years ago.
I have no plans to expands on that scale from the current 0-12. I'm not sure what we get from higher levels or when they would come into play. You are correct with the not much value going below 2 for standard clothing. Several girls have those and you rarely see them because even when they are legal to be worn, now they are competing with stripper dresses so they rarely get used. That said, if someone suggests a good case use for it, then I'd be open to it.


I edited my fertility to Zero and they still get prego and I have them to the paternal test and it comes back guilty WTF? And allot of them too so far at least 5. Then you get all the BS pop ups about matarnity BS come here go there and if you click thought them to fast you accidently click on something important. Get pregnancy at least managable. Do you not want people to have fun playing a game. If you make it real life what it the point in playing.
Fertility (as most attributes) goes -100 to 100. So 0 is actually average fertility. (It's confusing that a few attributes go 0-100 and I wish I hadn't done that cause it bites me in the ass all the time when I forget which are which).

You can turn off pregnancies by the user_config.dat entry:

base_pregnancy float 0

if you prefer no one to get pregnant. This doesn't turn off all the birth control stuff, and it should. That's will be fixed on the next version.

I would work more an sexy graphics for the girls or a better business model for the clubs. The club winning as 1 bar on stage and 1 entrance and is the only club with positive cash flow, meanwhile I have to pay 40 k to hire a waiter. It is easier to make a deal with a politician and get their shitty kid to train. By winning I mean the first with any positive cash flow. It takes a year to have positive cash flow by then you have 20 girls prego as is now. Or you simply always use a condom and then that part isn't a game anymore. And you are left with a business model for a club. I still think your sex stats are the game here. How many you talked into cream pies multiple cream pies can only get 2 in this version, how many times you make them cum should be statistic they don't even remember it or seem to notice it or how you did it finger tongue or dick, hell sometime they com when you talk dirty to them. So that part is good, I notice they keep 3 way stats better now as well. That was a waste of time in the past, except for a couple points of they like you that soon fades away back to their level. Do things like negative effects ever fall off their memories? The negatives they have on you?
I'm not sure I follow all of that... but:

* About the economic model: it turned out to be much harder than I anticipated and I never want that to be the focus of the game. If you want to play to optimize your cash flow go ahead, I'm not going to tell anyone what to enjoy. But I'm not interested in building a business simulator so this game will always fall short in that area. Even if I spend all my time on it, it will likely still not be good enough. At the end the strip club is an excuse to put the MC in a situation where he or she can interact with a bunch of other characters in a sexy environment.
* You got 20 girls pregnant in one year? That's impressive. I should have made the achievement for more than 3 in a year then!
* Yes, negative opinions wear out too. Almost all opinions trend towards 0, each opinion has it's own rate of decay. (The ones that don't are things like "family" or "is tall" that don't change.

Thanks

Second question, how can i ask my gf to stop taking birth control?
You know that's a great idea. Not sure why I didn't think of it. Will add it to the list. (You do have various options to replace her birth control pills with fake ones though).

Thank you for making it clear I'm still on my first run trying to figure most stuff out.

One more question just to be sure when it comes to having multiple BF's / GF's do I need to both hate mono and like Poly or one opinion is well enough.

Will later try to do new playtrough and this time I won't instantly start hiring people may even postone that and op club until I have Kitchen + Sit Area etc.
In general, when the opinions are opposite one is enough. So if they hate mono, they will automatically love poly. If you do try to convince someone that loves poly to hate mono, that should always work and it should tell you that she already does.

Never tried waiting to open until after the kitchen and sitting area are built to open the club. I think that would be worse. Once you open, you can start building up your fame which is what drivers customers. When not open your fame won't grow so by the time you do open in that case you will be getting very few customers and will be losing a lot of money on all the salaries you be paying.

I've always wondered when going someplace private with anyone really but someone you have a relationship in particular, why isn't your or their home one of the options? to go to their home you have to hope and pray they offer, but yours is never an option unless you drag them there then make a move on them.

also can pregnancy be a fetish we turn off and on? I know some people are all about it, not really a big thing for me.
Your home is not an option cause you have no home :D. It probably should be but at one point I thought it made things too easy. That said if it your girlfriend, you suggesting to go to her home should be an option. I will look into that.

And I do like that way to turn off pregnancies. Maybe I'll do that.
 

Fox.Mulder

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No worries man that's fair, I understand it's a lot of work to consider changes on that sort of scale.
I suppose my line of thinking was that each category of clothing would have its own modesty factor so instead of a sum total of 13 steps (0-12) of modesty having to cover 11 outfit types it would be 11 categories of outfits (biz/cas/ss/uw etc) which already sorta have their own modesty level when you consider what each one is, and each category would have a random pool of images to pull from. Not saying this is a genuine request for change or anything it's just how I first imagined things would maybe work, but I understand why it works the way it does. I was more approaching it from a customisation approach which gives a lot more freedom and variety to characters possibly changing more often (moreso modpacks probably) but also maybe removes a lot of identity from the current method.
Regardless thanks for clearing it up!
 

Tristin4857

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You know that's a great idea. Not sure why I didn't think of it. Will add it to the list. (You do have various options to replace her birth control pills with fake ones though).
Yes, but you lose honor doing so. Im in a loving relationship with someone, who we should be able to talk about and decide to have kids.

My six side pieces (including youngest sister) I can manipulate, trick, force, drug, get drunk all i want.

I mean, honor. lol.
 

Tristin4857

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A request, youve made icons for peoples roles (red heart for partner, blue heart for friend, ect..)
Id like to be able to control which layer ranking each icon is, meaning i want to set certain ones priority. Right now, employee seems to be the priority one, blocking out all other icons except favourites.
 

jeaquedamez

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I have no plans to expands on that scale from the current 0-12. I'm not sure what we get from higher levels or when they would come into play. You are correct with the not much value going below 2 for standard clothing. Several girls have those and you rarely see them because even when they are legal to be worn, now they are competing with stripper dresses so they rarely get used. That said, if someone suggests a good case use for it, then I'd be open to it.
I mentioned this earlier but it was a wall of text. I would like to see rather than increasing the z01-12 just adding an additional number to the images so we can technically allow multiple outfits under the same definition and accurate reveal states. Being limited to 0-3 for very low revealing outfits and 9-12 for nude outfits restricts this when I learned we could have multiple outfits each with the same reveal state. It would add immersion when characters can appear with different outfits randomly picked each day. I mentioned earlier as well I believe it could be achieved with appending a new number after current file name structure. I would personally use regex then to start classifying the images into each group for backwards compatibility then the existing systems should all just work. I already have a decent regex pattern for this when I was working on building my own image set, just to parse and gather statistics on the images I have. This would solve the issue without needing to change the total number of possible reveal states, it also opens up possibility for different types of images available i.e. pregnancy images. I'd be happy to help with implementing this system although my experience with c# is limited.
 

dkattack

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Salaries are based on how much they like you and how happy they are. If they are interested or not depends on if they like to Work, or Not to Work, or the type of Work.

You need to change their opinions on that stuff.
Was talking about the salery they have at the work previous to applying to my jobs. Thus their opnion to me should have no relevance. Might be that what you say affects the general level of pay seeing as I struggle to find workers with normal paylevel. Seeing waiters getting paid 20-26 at their current employ is not unnormal occurence...
 

Kohan54

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Never tried waiting to open until after the kitchen and sitting area are built to open the club. I think that would be worse. Once you open, you can start building up your fame which is what drivers customers. When not open your fame won't grow so by the time you do open in that case you will be getting very few customers and will be losing a lot of money on all the salaries you be paying.
How does one build fame cause no matter what price / positive events from bartender / score 30 k it's fixed at 50... Dunno maybe I'm missing something like my skills etc.

Which results in me getting 5 customers or so months in as I said I'm new so I may missing something will later try another playtrough but if my money situation gets dire again I may result in some money cheat.
 

haremmaou

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Jun 29, 2018
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Is there anyway to change person opinion in one code or button, it's like the pain in the ass try to change one person opinion to love or hate since they got a high chance refuse to change
 

Dr. Lin

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The fast aging of kids so they become adults is something I've given some thought to it... but then its starts going to far down a fantasy world, as if the rest of the game wasn't. Anyway, its not something I'm ruling out.


So what does pretty and ugly mean in this context? The system prefers tall but not too tall. Prefers slim but not too slim, prefers big breasts/big penis, for women prefers big hips but not too big. And young is better than old.
About the fantasy world thing i don't think you should care too much, you can just bullshit your way through like most games, people don't usually care, even less if it provides convenience to the gameplay or some feature, and we are in a sex game so... yeah.
Thank you about explaining the attraction system, solved a lot of doubts, now i know that i can "lure out" more flattering characters by tweaking the archetypes.
Btw, about the archetypes in this last restart i tried to make everbody virgin by maxing the probability in the archetypes and worked in most of them, but not the slut one at least, not sure if more are the case. I'm curious why, not that it bothers me but maybe there's something at play that we didn't know about.

Many thanks again.
 

Dr. Lin

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I mentioned this earlier but it was a wall of text. I would like to see rather than increasing the z01-12 just adding an additional number to the images so we can technically allow multiple outfits under the same definition and accurate reveal states. Being limited to 0-3 for very low revealing outfits and 9-12 for nude outfits restricts this when I learned we could have multiple outfits each with the same reveal state. It would add immersion when characters can appear with different outfits randomly picked each day. I mentioned earlier as well I believe it could be achieved with appending a new number after current file name structure. I would personally use regex then to start classifying the images into each group for backwards compatibility then the existing systems should all just work. I already have a decent regex pattern for this when I was working on building my own image set, just to parse and gather statistics on the images I have. This would solve the issue without needing to change the total number of possible reveal states, it also opens up possibility for different types of images available i.e. pregnancy images. I'd be happy to help with implementing this system although my experience with c# is limited.
Personally i support this idea, at least the option to randomize the outfits with the same name and "z--", mainly for the extra image packs, there's some in circulation and if you don't want to choose one over other in the same girl, you have to edit the img one by one changing the "z--" value.
Talking about the img packs i'm pretty sure the dstu1 with the anime girls is duplicated in the same folder.
 

Fox.Mulder

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Personally i support this idea, at least the option to randomize the outfits with the same name and "z--", mainly for the extra image packs, there's some in circulation and if you don't want to choose one over other in the same girl, you have to edit the img one by one changing the "z--" value.
Talking about the img packs i'm pretty sure the dstu1 with the anime girls is duplicated in the same folder.
Yeah I believe it is. I had to delete the duplicated files.
 
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After a long break I recently started playing 1.06. Good to see the injury issues are now resolved.

Has the Public Decency Society (can't remember its proper name) been abolished? I haven't yet seen it in my 1.06 playthroughs. Not that I ever played that questline much anyway.

I'm having trouble adjusting to how the economy now works - I keep hitting a debt wall at about the time of my first club expansion - but I suspect I'll get the hang of it.

I'd like to see the Law Affinities a bit less generic by category and more nuanced. e.g. It seems counterintuitive that loving sex in public doesn't predispose commissioners to legalise it or that voyeurism makes them approve of fully clothed singers just as much as strippers.

BTW, there's a glitch in changing opinions in that once you've successfully changed someone's opinion on something you can change it on anything for the rest of the day. The exploit is to get them to agree with something easy then hit them with something difficult (e.g. "likes flirting" followed by "likes prostitution"). I think it's been there ever since I started playing SCW but I only just properly tested it.
 
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kazet_x9

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There were no specific changes to the logic for accepting a job or the wanted salary with this version (or any recent one for that matter). It's probably just a bad luck with RNG and getting several hard to hire girls in a row.



I have no plans to expands on that scale from the current 0-12. I'm not sure what we get from higher levels or when they would come into play. You are correct with the not much value going below 2 for standard clothing. Several girls have those and you rarely see them because even when they are legal to be worn, now they are competing with stripper dresses so they rarely get used. That said, if someone suggests a good case use for it, then I'd be open to it.




Fertility (as most attributes) goes -100 to 100. So 0 is actually average fertility. (It's confusing that a few attributes go 0-100 and I wish I hadn't done that cause it bites me in the ass all the time when I forget which are which).

You can turn off pregnancies by the user_config.dat entry:

base_pregnancy float 0

if you prefer no one to get pregnant. This doesn't turn off all the birth control stuff, and it should. That's will be fixed on the next version.



I'm not sure I follow all of that... but:

* About the economic model: it turned out to be much harder than I anticipated and I never want that to be the focus of the game. If you want to play to optimize your cash flow go ahead, I'm not going to tell anyone what to enjoy. But I'm not interested in building a business simulator so this game will always fall short in that area. Even if I spend all my time on it, it will likely still not be good enough. At the end the strip club is an excuse to put the MC in a situation where he or she can interact with a bunch of other characters in a sexy environment.
* You got 20 girls pregnant in one year? That's impressive. I should have made the achievement for more than 3 in a year then!
* Yes, negative opinions wear out too. Almost all opinions trend towards 0, each opinion has it's own rate of decay. (The ones that don't are things like "family" or "is tall" that don't change.



You know that's a great idea. Not sure why I didn't think of it. Will add it to the list. (You do have various options to replace her birth control pills with fake ones though).



In general, when the opinions are opposite one is enough. So if they hate mono, they will automatically love poly. If you do try to convince someone that loves poly to hate mono, that should always work and it should tell you that she already does.

Never tried waiting to open until after the kitchen and sitting area are built to open the club. I think that would be worse. Once you open, you can start building up your fame which is what drivers customers. When not open your fame won't grow so by the time you do open in that case you will be getting very few customers and will be losing a lot of money on all the salaries you be paying.



Your home is not an option cause you have no home :D. It probably should be but at one point I thought it made things too easy. That said if it your girlfriend, you suggesting to go to her home should be an option. I will look into that.

And I do like that way to turn off pregnancies. Maybe I'll do that.


Do you think it would be possible to modify the game in such a way that it accepts multiple images for scenes like BJ, pussy eating, sex, and anal?

Also, would it be possible to make the software accept video files in 512x800 resolution as an alternative to images? I'm referring to very short clips of 5-10 seconds.
 

rentabag

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I've been enjoying the game.
Apologies if this has been already asked, but if the profitability of the club goes way up after getting a Kitchen, Sitting Area, Dressing Room and Entrance. How come we don't get to start the game with those?

I kept my club closed until I could hire Singers, and that seemed to do better than trying to operate an unprofitable bar / kitchen.
 
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