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"Do Maintenance" requires energy, so you might just not be able to do it. The thing about the "Sleep" button is that it will restore all your energy (in the morning and late phases, otherwise only 20) but only be available from 20 energy on downwards. So if you start off a day with 21 energy, you will quickly fall into this trap of taking a nap, doing a thing (but nothing too exciting).
You sure energy it's the only condition? I think you can only "Do Maintenance" when the maintenance level is >100.
Indeed my healthy routine would be: Save energy in the evening to interact with bartenders/guests; "Do Maintenance" at night, sleep, but sometimes I can't "Do Maintenance" at night so I have to waste a turn: interact sleep sleep.

Unrelated: I managed to persuade a commisioner to pass a law by promising I would hire "her kid" - I didn't have a job opening at the time and the commissioner got mad, so I saved-scummed and open a bartener position before the commissioner came, but then again the only option I had was "I don't have openings at the moment..." I also met "the kid" and consider her for a job but she said she was not interested. So I guess you must have an open position to the kid's liking?
 
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Cartageno

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You sure energy it's the only condition? I think you can only "Do Maintenance" when the maintenance level is >100.
Indeed my healthy routine would be: Save energy in the evening to interact with bartenders/guests; "Do Maintenance" at night, sleep, but sometimes I can't "Do Maintenance" at night so I have to waste a turn: interact sleep sleep.

Unrelated: I managed to persuade a commisioner to pass a law by promising I would hire "her kid" - I didn't have a job opening at the time and the commissioner got mad, so I saved-scummed and open a bartener position before the commissioner came, but then again the only option I had was "I don't have openings at the moment..." I also met "the kid" and consider her for a job but she said she was not interested. So I guess you must have an open position to the kid's liking?
You are correct, a minimum of dirtyness is required as well. I only thought about the energy aspect because it was mentioned in connection with the "sleep" button.

(Can't answer the second question since I never hired any commish kid in a deal)
 
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there is one club per region (two are empty).
Exactly. Sometimes there's no club in the neighboring regions, sometimes there's one, sometimes there are two, hence you are "surrounded". In the attachment, my club has no other club around it, while Sweet Lips is surrounded. I remember I read in this very thread some time ago that even these details can make a difference. And with that particular "Studio 53" save I started with negative values for endurance and serving...

I remember another save when I had incredible skills, and all the NPC I met had good skill too, but the average income for both my neighborhood and the town was incredibily low, lewdness was in the negative for every bartender I interviewed, the City Council never approved a law and every club never manage to make more than 15-20 $ per day.

It seems as if the game tries and strike a balance between external environment and MC's skills.
 

Orieni01

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I'm enjoying this game, having discovered it recently, but there are some things which bring me to a halt. I have had several employees go through the bit where they are unhappy about the clothes they must wear for the job. Note that this includes experienced strippers. So, I began ensuring that they all love revealing clothes and public nudity, and it doesn't stop, even for women who only wanted the stripper job. This seems like a rather arbitrary mechanic, might need some modifiers if this is hard coded to the lewdness number. It seems counter-intuitive for someone to love nudity and revealing clothes, with years of experience as a stripper, and have a crisis about revealing clothes. Am I missing some mechanic I should be employing to deal with this, or am I just supposed to accept a certain amount of turnover?

This wouldn't be as big of a deal, but it takes an Act of Congress to find an employee, nobody wants to leave their jobs, even the unemployed, and I'm not hiring applicants who are hideous to strip for my own peace of mind.
 

DyreMezza

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How to cure STD? :(
I am desperate
In my case,i had to wait many months until the meds came up with a 100% cure.
Your sister will give you periodically updates about the progress of the cure.
It will happen eventually but untill then you really shouldnt have sex:cry:
 
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TotalFluke

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I'm not saying anything about the player or NPCs acting under different rule sets, i'm simply preposing adding new types of relationships that more readily allow for things like a dominant partner and submissive partner, cuckqueans/cucks, polyamorous relationships that aren't open.

I've tried do those things, but that is tedious to constantly have to chase away other suitors.
I've said this several times, that this is not a harem game. It is possible to do so, but it would take a lot of work and would require the right girls. In particular get them with low willpower and make them dislike cheating and dating and marriage and pretty much anything that may entice them to say yes when they are asked out. Making them liking following orders and being submissive doesn't help that much because those will make them more likely to say yes to you but also to others. The best option is to hire them in your club and set the rule to prevent them dating outside of work.

Making that easier is on the list of things to consider adding but haven't gotten to it.

any idea about new version ?
I can't say when because it depends on a lot of factors, mainly it needs to be in a stable state and I need to have the time to post it. But so far, there has always been an update within 4 weeks of the last one. The last one was 2.5 weeks ago.

hi
who can tell in detail about the club managers? what are the advantages of hiring them? when is it worth hiring them? i have 15 employees, and the most expensive one was the dj, and now managers come to interview and i like their salary requests. probably should refuse to hire them for now

thx
Currently the office manager and marketing manager are useful to hire. The office manager can handle inventory and both of them can help cover for employees taking days off. So if your club is turning a profit and you are not in debt, go ahead and hire them. The business manager is probably not worth at this point (those are hard to find and very expensive). The next update will have a reason to have one though.

Running for City Commissioner says needs 21 years old but In the Help section it says 32. :oops:

So does running for commissioner between those age range get you in but not let you win it?
Ah, interesting. Internally the value is set to 32 to prevent the initial set from using the young people. At that time I was worried that there weren't enough images and didn't want to have those tied up in the council. The help file is showing the internal value. But when elections are open the age minimum is 21. I'll will set it to 21 everywhere now as there shouldn't be shortage of young girl images any more.

You sure energy it's the only condition? I think you can only "Do Maintenance" when the maintenance level is >100.
Indeed my healthy routine would be: Save energy in the evening to interact with bartenders/guests; "Do Maintenance" at night, sleep, but sometimes I can't "Do Maintenance" at night so I have to waste a turn: interact sleep sleep.

Unrelated: I managed to persuade a commisioner to pass a law by promising I would hire "her kid" - I didn't have a job opening at the time and the commissioner got mad, so I saved-scummed and open a bartener position before the commissioner came, but then again the only option I had was "I don't have openings at the moment..." I also met "the kid" and consider her for a job but she said she was not interested. So I guess you must have an open position to the kid's liking?
It could be that she was too young to be a bartender? You do need to have an open position that the kid qualifies for, doesn't has to like it. So if it's male, singer/dancer/stripper/etc wouldn't be an option either.

Sorry for firing questions but I have some time to spare and a lot of doubts. I'm hiding them because if I'm right they kind of give away some game mechanics:

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No, there's no relation between your starting skills and the location of your club. It's all random.

But you are correct on the lewdness factor.

Think about this way: a shitty bartender will give you her undivided attention when you are the only person in bar and you will be ok with that. But if the bar is packed, good luck getting a drink, let alone any additional conversation and you won't be satisfied. In that case you will prefer a more competent one. Her lewdness is of less importance cause she doesn't have much time for you anyway.

So you want workers with high lewdness and high job skill. If you can only have one, you prefer the high lewdness early on, the high skill later on. (And the lewdness impact depends on the job, see the help screen for details)


I'm enjoying this game, having discovered it recently, but there are some things which bring me to a halt. I have had several employees go through the bit where they are unhappy about the clothes they must wear for the job. Note that this includes experienced strippers. So, I began ensuring that they all love revealing clothes and public nudity, and it doesn't stop, even for women who only wanted the stripper job. This seems like a rather arbitrary mechanic, might need some modifiers if this is hard coded to the lewdness number. It seems counter-intuitive for someone to love nudity and revealing clothes, with years of experience as a stripper, and have a crisis about revealing clothes. Am I missing some mechanic I should be employing to deal with this, or am I just supposed to accept a certain amount of turnover?

This wouldn't be as big of a deal, but it takes an Act of Congress to find an employee, nobody wants to leave their jobs, even the unemployed, and I'm not hiring applicants who are hideous to strip for my own peace of mind.
If someone loves nudity and they won't undress? That's not normal. In general if you can get the strippers to like or love nudity and the waitress and hostess to like revealing clothing that should be all it takes and not require the constant threats. By that time you should be able to be in control of the cult, so invite those to join and raise their courage and lewdness that way too.

Turnover is normal. There are some employees that are never happy and will always be looking for a new job. Keep them as happy as you can - give them raises and send them on shopping sprees when they are sad and make sure they like you. I can't stress enough how important is for everyone, specially your employees to like you. The simple Talk To-> Say Hi helps a lot.

For hiring, make sure they like you and your club. If your club is in debt or has a high maintenance amount they won't like it too much. The unemployed are unemployed often for a reason: they don't like to work! So change their opinion so that they like to work. And again, make sure they like you!
 

internet_says

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Is it possible for once you gain control of the cult to set some sort of restrictions on recruiting, like don't recruit men, or don't recruit old people or focus on recruiting powerful people like council members, city inspectors, drug dealer and private investigator, and other club owners.

Also for the cult it would be cool and make sense in context for them to have the option to "surveil" which would work similarly to the investigator spying on someone as a potential recruit or a threat like the persuade council members or public outing options.

And if you get a special character like the council members to join shouldn't you have an advantage like you do when you pay for a candidate to run who agrees to vote how you like. also if you recruit the drug dealer or investigator maybe get a discount on their services?
 

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Exactly. Sometimes there's no club in the neighboring regions, sometimes there's one, sometimes there are two, hence you are "surrounded". In the attachment, my club has no other club around it, while Sweet Lips is surrounded. I remember I read in this very thread some time ago that even these details can make a difference. And with that particular "Studio 53" save I started with negative values for endurance and serving...
Well you just need to juggle your starts, till you get one, where you only have the one in the city centre as neighbor, which is unavoidable and often gets to be your biggest competition over time.

Like my current run:
Tushy vs. pussy.png

This might take a few attempts, but in the end there will always be one plopping up.
And yes, this can make a difference, as neighboring districts ppl who dont have a club, then come partly into to those next to them, increasing your potential customer base and income, which ofc. also helps you get off the the ground and faster out of debt.
 

sgenter

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I've said this several times, that this is not a harem game. It is possible to do so, but it would take a lot of work and would require the right girls. In particular get them with low willpower and make them dislike cheating and dating and marriage and pretty much anything that may entice them to say yes when they are asked out. Making them liking following orders and being submissive doesn't help that much because those will make them more likely to say yes to you but also to others. The best option is to hire them in your club and set the rule to prevent them dating outside of work.
This is 100% accurate.

I have a so called 'harem' of 4 girlfriends. But I consider them girlfriends over a harem as they don't all like each other nor do all participate with threesomes.

I also have another play through with a harem of 5 girlfriends however all 5 girls have the 'polygamy' trait and don't want men. They all are Bi and have only female Ex's. And their contact lists show any men ATT values at 2 or less.

One thing I cannot stress enough is anytime you have MORE than 3 girlfriends it will require almost ALL your time dedicated to dating, talking, and having sex with them alone to keep them 1) Happy, 2) Interested in you alone - no cheating, and 3) Following you around constantly :). It makes it very hard to keep your club staff happy by not having the time to visit them when working.

My only complaint: Polygamy (if MC is male) is the Golden Ticket which the game almost always never gives to the MC if male. This needs to change. In older versions 0.5 thru 0.6f you would get a higher chance of getting the Polygamy attribute when playing as a male MC. But not so much in later versions. Would like to see that change.

Again, this is the absolute best Club Management game out there bar none. Total Fluke is and always has replied to almost all comments here without exception. I do not know any other developer that does that. Furthermore, his game/VN is easily modifiable through his configuration files. Once you start reading those files both in the Data Folder and in the tfel folder, no help is really needed in my opinion.

Keep up the great work Total Fluke!
 

Cartageno

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This is 100% accurate.

I have a so called 'harem' of 4 girlfriends. But I consider them girlfriends over a harem as they don't all like each other nor do all participate with threesomes.

I also have another play through with a harem of 5 girlfriends however all 5 girls have the 'polygamy' trait and don't want men. They all are Bi and have only female Ex's. And their contact lists show any men ATT values at 2 or less.

One thing I cannot stress enough is anytime you have MORE than 3 girlfriends it will require almost ALL your time dedicated to dating, talking, and having sex with them alone to keep them 1) Happy, 2) Interested in you alone - no cheating, and 3) Following you around constantly :). It makes it very hard to keep your club staff happy by not having the time to visit them when working.

My only complaint: Polygamy (if MC is male) is the Golden Ticket which the game almost always never gives to the MC if male. This needs to change. In older versions 0.5 thru 0.6f you would get a higher chance of getting the Polygamy attribute when playing as a male MC. But not so much in later versions. Would like to see that change.

Again, this is the absolute best Club Management game out there bar none. Total Fluke is and always has replied to almost all comments here without exception. I do not know any other developer that does that. Furthermore, his game/VN is easily modifiable through his configuration files. Once you start reading those files both in the Data Folder and in the tfel folder, no help is really needed in my opinion.

Keep up the great work Total Fluke!
(a) I can juggle way more than 3 girlfriends. Yes, dating, threesome applications and so forth take up a lot of time but you can talk them out of it (mostly). And they tend to be happy. Most important for that (and also the greatest time sink in my playstyle) is going to each and every "antiquing" and similar, and accepting every date if they suggest one. But you can stop the date after the first kiss (if they initiate it) most of the time, so you can keep your energy.

As for cheating: NPCs are slow. As I mentioned in an earlier post you can try and find out if they start fancying somebody else and then talk them into not liking their attributes. It probably is impossible to completely exterminate any competition, but for practical purposes, I have control.

(b) What do you mean by "polygamy" trait? If it is the opinion that your character likes it, well, just wait a bit until it strikes up in conversation (most likely by the stalker), then you can set it. Otherwise I don't understand what you mean.
 
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Eibone

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What is the thing the makes opinion drop quicker? Ive noticed some girls will drop by like ten points in a week or so but others will barely move for a long while.

This game is pretty addicting, it's been a fun time trying to figure things out and progress.

Some bugs/opinions I have of the game so far: If you try to cancel out of loading a save, itll often freeze the button and afaik require a close and reboot

It'd be some amazing qol if the current capacity would adjust for when employees don't come into work. Also on that note, it would also be great if the employees wouldn't sometimes all take their day off at the same time causing me to close the place down for the day. Like why are both my bartenders, all 3 of my waitresses, and both janitors all taking off at once.
 

TimTheGrim

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Feb 5, 2023
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I usually manually edit them in the save file, giving them -100 will, rational, courage and lewd, this does the trick for me. Don't go nuts and do this for like more than 5, or it kind of breaks things, meaning if you do too many, things stop firing in the game like they should be, like all these women in the club, stop showing up at club functions!
Also doesn't work on committee members, and not always on club owners.
don't be naked around them right after doing so, this might end up with the police showing up.
I caution you to not do them all at same time, and soon as you get them in reset their attributes, or they'll be prudes
I did the editing, fortunately I made a backup of the save beforehand. Afterwards (I edited the five most promising ones) the contact list remains empty. So I need to revert. I admit to including a city council member wh is my gf. Maybe that's what messed things up.
The recruting itself worked like a charm after the edit btw.
Does anyone have a clue why the contact list would be empty after an edit of personal traits? Btw I didn't have to touch the "courage" attribute.
 

TotalFluke

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Is it possible for once you gain control of the cult to set some sort of restrictions on recruiting, like don't recruit men, or don't recruit old people or focus on recruiting powerful people like council members, city inspectors, drug dealer and private investigator, and other club owners.

Also for the cult it would be cool and make sense in context for them to have the option to "surveil" which would work similarly to the investigator spying on someone as a potential recruit or a threat like the persuade council members or public outing options.

And if you get a special character like the council members to join shouldn't you have an advantage like you do when you pay for a candidate to run who agrees to vote how you like. also if you recruit the drug dealer or investigator maybe get a discount on their services?
This has been asked before (mostly related to job postings, but applies here too). I'm not going to add ways to filter out people based on age, gender, body shape, etc. You can always kick them out of the cult if you don't like them. Note that the way it works filtering some candidates out wouldn't make the others more likely to join. They ask those they can talk into it. Someone not asking their 40 year old friend to join doesn't mean that instead ask and convince a 25 year old instead.

The surveillance option is interesting. I've added for something to consider. Actually in the time it took me to do that I came up with a pretty cool scenario. Yeah, thanks about that.

Followers will always be more likely to do what you want them to. So yeah, a commissioner who is a follower are easier to sway. However incorporating this into discounts would be a bit hard to do and add minimal gameplay value so I probably won't go there.

My only complaint: Polygamy (if MC is male) is the Golden Ticket which the game almost always never gives to the MC if male. This needs to change. In older versions 0.5 thru 0.6f you would get a higher chance of getting the Polygamy attribute when playing as a male MC. But not so much in later versions. Would like to see that change.

Again, this is the absolute best Club Management game out there bar none. Total Fluke is and always has replied to almost all comments here without exception. I do not know any other developer that does that. Furthermore, his game/VN is easily modifiable through his configuration files. Once you start reading those files both in the Data Folder and in the tfel folder, no help is really needed in my opinion.

Keep up the great work Total Fluke!
Thanks. Glad you are enjoying it. I assume you mean Polyamory of course. However, th MC never gets any opinions at the start and never has. They are set when another person shares their opinion and then the MC can choose it. But because of that dynamic, it's hard to get set cause it's one that few people get and requires a close relationship for them to share (same with incest, threesomes, and many other good ones!). There's a event involving that crazy student that's obsessed with the MC in which she will ask what you think about it giving you the opportunity to set it (all those good, hard to get opinions are options to be shared there).

The other way to get it, is to find someone who likes you a lot, and who is very easily convinced (low will power, high looseness, likes following orders, is a follower, etc.) and then attempt to give it to them. It's hard to change opinions when you don't have them, but in some cases it may work. Once she has it and if she likes you enough and she might then share it with you later on. It requires some work, but it works.

What is the thing the makes opinion drop quicker? Ive noticed some girls will drop by like ten points in a week or so but others will barely move for a long while.

This game is pretty addicting, it's been a fun time trying to figure things out and progress.

Some bugs/opinions I have of the game so far: If you try to cancel out of loading a save, itll often freeze the button and afaik require a close and reboot

It'd be some amazing qol if the current capacity would adjust for when employees don't come into work. Also on that note, it would also be great if the employees wouldn't sometimes all take their day off at the same time causing me to close the place down for the day. Like why are both my bartenders, all 3 of my waitresses, and both janitors all taking off at once.
There are a lot of things that drop their opinion 10 points. Just look at their details and see what opinion modifiers they have. That tells you exactly why they don't like you.

I will look into the load game/cancel issue.

I've explained several times the complexity with managing days off for employees. It's a hard issue to fix and my attempts to make it better haven't succeeded so probably won't try again.

I did the editing, fortunately I made a backup of the save beforehand. Afterwards (I edited the five most promising ones) the contact list remains empty. So I need to revert. I admit to including a city council member wh is my gf. Maybe that's what messed things up.
The recruting itself worked like a charm after the edit btw.
Does anyone have a clue why the contact list would be empty after an edit of personal traits? Btw I didn't have to touch the "courage" attribute.
Some editors don't respect the field separators (like Notepad) so that's my guess what went wrong. Or you did it by mistake. Glad you made a copy first.
 

sgenter

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(b) What do you mean by "polygamy" trait? If it is the opinion that your character likes it, well, just wait a bit until it strikes up in conversation (most likely by the stalker), then you can set it. Otherwise I don't understand what you mean.
When the MC has the Polygamy Opinion/Trait and you have more than 1 GF you will not receive the 'has cheated' stat in your actions dialog box. Where it lists your previous actions for sex. Nor will you receive any negative opinions when looking at your GF's opinions. In my 2 play through's I've mentioned earlier, I am well into Mar 28 in 1 and Dec 28 in another and have never had the stalker as about my opinion on poly. In earlier versions like 0.5 and 0.6f I would be asked about Polygamy in the first 2 years. In current versions, through 6 different play through's - I've never been asked about Poly.
 

Justin9989

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Is there a way to swap one character's pics for another? My little sister showed up as one of the default girls with the COVID mask. I can't have that. Tried to change it in the save file but no dice.
 

Mordryd

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I did the editing, fortunately I made a backup of the save beforehand. Afterwards (I edited the five most promising ones) the contact list remains empty. So I need to revert. I admit to including a city council member wh is my gf. Maybe that's what messed things up.
The recruting itself worked like a charm after the edit btw.
Does anyone have a clue why the contact list would be empty after an edit of personal traits? Btw I didn't have to touch the "courage" attribute.
typo's will do that, things need to be almost the same as when you start editing, spaces where they were, and no barriers erased, you have to be exact when you edit, details have to be paid exact attention to, in order for the game to accept the edit!
have to be meticuluous
 

nightsong96

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Is there a way to swap one character's pics for another? My little sister showed up as one of the default girls with the COVID mask. I can't have that. Tried to change it in the save file but no dice.
It depends on if you have started the plot with your little sister or not. At some point, you see her in the contacts list, but you are not able to call her or interact with her, in that case, you are seeing the default girl with the mask. Once she contacts you after a while, you'll see what she looks like.
 
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