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CovertApe

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Impo, if you try to please everyone you'll end up pleasing no one, since you'll end up having to do everything avoidable if you want to attract different type of players, or opt for forced content and lose more players, also certainly listening and putting what people ask for is not good.

Leaving that aside, if you are going to use Patreon I must warn you that if the stepsisters and stepmother are possible LI patreon is not very kind to incest and step-shit either and they can close your account (you should read the patreon TOS) you should think about opening a Subscribestar since a patch with the story would be difficult (I mean it's about who receives the inheritance, obviously they have a relationship with the Mc)
We have a back up for this and a patch in mind where Miriam had not yet married the late Duke, so therefore, wasn't legally step anything yet and instead protected by his will. We aren't leaning into the step anything/family angle as a kink, more circumstantial for the inheritance which is why we kept them all adults and strangers. Thanks so much for your heads up :)

It's impossible to please everyone - we've actively created the story to be able to include certain kinks around the edges and we won't bend the quality of the game to try and get everyone. We will tick as many boxes as we can without hurting the integrity of the project. When we say we'll ask for what people want, it's more an information gathering practise to find out WHAT people are looking for - but we may not be the devs to give that to them (if you get my drift).

Thanks heaps for your feedback. Appreciate the time spent :)

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Surmikas

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Hiya! In the upcoming seasons we will dive into all of these (and more). One of our drives as devs of succession is to work closely with our specific audiences to learn what they want to see, and how we can realistically add to that our roadmap without deviating from the master plans or overall feel of the game.

There will be multiple endings and results (who you can end with, etc - we don't want to strong arm this as we want the player to have as much agency as possible) but it doesn't have to monogamous, and there will be opportunities for harem, bi, lesbian, etc. We are aiming to make the play through that present options of festishes/favourite interests that you can take or reject to suit what you want out of the experience. It's a decent undertaking, but we're fairly confident with our development chops to make it happen and feel more bespoke.

Hope this helps :)

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"our specific audiences" What would those be? Because harem and NTR don't mix at all.
"Bi" Do you mean you're going to add gay content too?

Btw, what are the future tags?
 

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Hiya! In the upcoming seasons we will dive into all of these (and more). One of our drives as devs of succession is to work closely with our specific audiences to learn what they want to see, and how we can realistically add to that our roadmap without deviating from the master plans or overall feel of the game.

There will be multiple endings and results (who you can end with, etc - we don't want to strong arm this as we want the player to have as much agency as possible) but it doesn't have to monogamous, and there will be opportunities for harem, bi, lesbian, etc. We are aiming to make the play through that present options of festishes/favourite interests that you can take or reject to suit what you want out of the experience. It's a decent undertaking, but we're fairly confident with our development chops to make it happen and feel more bespoke.

Hope this helps :)

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Why is it so difficult to give a yes or no answer? :rolleyes: ...
 
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This seems like a dangerous mixtures of potential tags.
NTR and Harem will make people fight over the game or argue with the development dont take input from the masses.
Make what your story is supposed to be and draw your lines (limit)
Either Harem, NTR or Single Route, Make it easier for you so that way nobody starts bitching.
 
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since you are open to add different kinks i'd love if there's NTRS ( sharing ) or NTR ( cheating ) paths in the game
Thanks for your request - and YEP we definitely have those kinks marked as options if that's the road you want to take ;)
I'd love to see as well.

Btw renders and female models are astonishing! Easily SSS-tier
Thx 4 the share. Good luck on the game
 

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"our specific audiences" What would those be? Because harem and NTR don't mix at all.
"Bi" Do you mean you're going to add gay content too?

Btw, what are the future tags?
Content is our goal, and a lot of it. We're trying to ascertain as to WHO our audience is right now, because this is our first AVN. We don't know who vibes with this kind of story, or what kinks come with that, yet, from our audiences expectations. If there's enough of a voice for a certain kink, and it fits into the story and MC's journey, we'll do our best to find opportunities to interact with it. Thanks for the feedback!

Future tags on the way!

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goulet1995

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Hiya! In the upcoming seasons we will dive into all of these (and more). One of our drives as devs of succession is to work closely with our specific audiences to learn what they want to see, and how we can realistically add to that our roadmap without deviating from the master plans or overall feel of the game.

There will be multiple endings and results (who you can end with, etc - we don't want to strong arm this as we want the player to have as much agency as possible) but it doesn't have to monogamous, and there will be opportunities for harem, bi, lesbian, etc. We are aiming to make the play through that present options of festishes/favourite interests that you can take or reject to suit what you want out of the experience. It's a decent undertaking, but we're fairly confident with our development chops to make it happen and feel more bespoke.

Hope this helps :)

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sounds like you plan to make things avoidable hope that is the case and not just skipping over a scene that still happens. Doing both harem/vanilla and ntr/sharing often dosnt mix well the threads here always turn to shit with a never ending argument and both sides being disappointed when their side wasnt featured enough in an update. Not to mention almost every attempt iv seen of this has bleed over such as a wrong scene triggering that the player chose to avoid or even just the tone of the story having felling of ntr when it shouldnt be. Il likely still try it but these days games thattry to play both sides i usually wait to play because 99% dont last
 

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Looks solid. One thing I think when it asks about name change, the line saying "people usually know me as Xavier" feels like it should be removed cause it can feels like you are supposed to be Xavier, so maybe something the line could be " Usually people just call me..." Then you can just input first name and have Xavier be default., but we can choose what we want. Just a suggestion .

I hope there is some femdom, it one of my fav kinks. But overall it's interesting and the girls look great.
 
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CovertApe

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This seems like a dangerous mixtures of potential tags.
NTR and Harem will make people fight over the game or argue with the development dont take input from the masses.
Make what your story is supposed to be and draw your lines (limit)
Either Harem, NTR or Single Route, Make it easier for you so that way nobody starts bitching.
Thanks for the advice! We have a very strong roadmap for the story and the different endings; we aren't ever going to tag a tag that we aren't SURE we can deliver. We're currently reviewing feedback to make as clear a distinction as possible to our players. :) Really appreciate your feedback.

Lady Ape
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CovertApe

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sounds like you plan to make things avoidable hope that is the case and not just skipping over a scene that still happens. Doing both harem/vanilla and ntr/sharing often dosnt mix well the threads here always turn to shit with a never ending argument and both sides being disappointed when their side wasnt featured enough in an update. Not to mention almost every attempt iv seen of this has bleed over such as a wrong scene triggering that the player chose to avoid or even just the tone of the story having felling of ntr when it shouldnt be. Il likely still try it but these days games thattry to play both sides i usually wait to play because 99% dont last
Really appreciate the feedback here! I 100% like to create avoidable scenarios and deliberate choices so you aren't forced down a path you don't like. I am hearing that there is some heated conversation regarding harem vs ntr on these forums, and I will straight up say there isn't an explicit option to end up with everyone in this storyline. It wouldn't make sense in the context of the story world, so we won't try to do that. That's how we approach all of the kinks presented to us. If it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make it in. This game isn't inherently harem or NTR, but will feature aspects of both (MC trying things), so maybe not the game for those who ONLY like those things and want to see lots of it - and that's cool. We're just telling a story we're proud of.

Again, thanks so much for your feedback! It's really, really helpful.

Lady Ape
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CovertApe

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Looks solid. One thing I think when it asks about name change, the line saying "people usually know me as Xavier" feels like it should be removed cause it can feels like you are supposed to be Xavier, so maybe something the line could be " Usually people just call me..." Then you can just input first name and have Xavier be default., but we can choose what we want. Just a suggestion .

I hope there is some femdom, it one of my fav kinks. But overall it's interesting and the girls look great.
Thanks for your awesome feedback, will definitely take it on board (runs off to make an edit).

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Content is our goal, and a lot of it. We're trying to ascertain as to WHO our audience is right now, because this is our first AVN. We don't know who vibes with this kind of story, or what kinks come with that, yet, from our audiences expectations. If there's enough of a voice for a certain kink, and it fits into the story and MC's journey, we'll do our best to find opportunities to interact with it. Thanks for the feedback!

Future tags on the way!

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Future tags is the best way to avoid unnecessary disputes & bitching. They should make this mandatory for all new games;)
Looking forward to it!

And again thx 4 sharing this beautiful game. Good luck!!
 
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Future tags is the best way to avoid unnecessary disputes & bitching. They should make this mandatory for all new games;)
Looking forward to it!

And again thx 4 sharing this beautiful game. Good luck!!
Thank you again!
We are currently trying to compile our future tag list as concisely as possible so there is no confusion. WE WANT LOVE NOT WAR.
 
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The premise sounds interesting and the renders look pretty good, but I feel like there's a couple of red flags:

-From the dev's comments, it sounds like there will be a ton of characters which worries me that most of them won't really get fleshed out (see WVM or most real porn games for extreme examples of this going wrong).

-The whole "content based on what the players want" thing, which I can't remember ever ending well for any game. It also makes it sound like the devs don't really have a plan for the story.

-Bending over and willing to change the characters/story to please Patreon. This and the previous point makes it sound like the main point is money and the game is just a means to an end.

I hope I'm wrong because I want to like the game, those are just the impressions I got from reading the thread.

But if we can suggest things: I wish the MC was actually related to the other people fighting for the inheritance, it would add to the drama and make it much more interesting.

If there's a plan for an incest patch don't mention it here, you need to keep plausible deniability.
 
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CovertApe

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Why is it so difficult to give a yes or no answer? :rolleyes: ...
This is our first AVN on F95 and we are learning what the tags mean to users before we unrealistically set any expectations. As in, we are deciding whether or not to use certain tags simply because elements of it can be included in the game. We don't want to declare tags that define an overarching theme and then be underrepresented.

For instance - this is not an NTR/CUCK game. Nor will there be an option to end up with everyone (harem). However, there will be situations where elements of these could be present throughout the seasons, but avoidable for the player if they choose.

As I said, this is our first foray onto F95, so we are taking our time to consider how to brand the future tags so that there is no confusion, while also chatting and taking on feedback for our game. :)

Thanks so much for the engagement!

Lady Ape
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goulet1995

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Really appreciate the feedback here! I 100% like to create avoidable scenarios and deliberate choices so you aren't forced down a path you don't like. I am hearing that there is some heated conversation regarding harem vs ntr on these forums, and I will straight up say there isn't an explicit option to end up with everyone in this storyline. It wouldn't make sense in the context of the story world, so we won't try to do that. That's how we approach all of the kinks presented to us. If it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make it in. This game isn't inherently harem or NTR, but will feature aspects of both (MC trying things), so maybe not the game for those who ONLY like those things and want to see lots of it - and that's cool. We're just telling a story we're proud of.

Again, thanks so much for your feedback! It's really, really helpful.

Lady Ape
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so only a partial harem tbh im probably out on the game if i need multiple playthroughs to see the content i want i dont start that game anymore i pretty much exclusively play harem where you can get all the LI in one playthrough. Also the tag system on this site sucks for instance you game sounds like it should 100% get the harem tag because it only requires three LI's for the tag but almost everyone who is looking for harem wants the option for all the LI's there are many more examples like this for the other tags as well.
 
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