VN Ren'Py Summer Scent [v0.6.4a] [The Naughty Captain]

[Dragon59]

Any plans of illustrating the Sister's rape scene? I'd like to see it.

No thank you.
I played the initial offering of the BlackHeart Hotel prequel and that was more than enough.

 

[patachoucs]

(Damn I wrote a lot, sorry about that.)



Hey, I guess in truth we agree in many points here.

First, valid point about trying to put ourselves in Cassie's shoulders, by the comments I remember reading here on the thread it indeed is something that tends to be overshadowed. IIRC in the dual love path Cassie doesn't know that Jack went to talk with Eve over she, it would be another story if she Indeed had known that, so that's not something that Cassie would think about later. That was my first impression, but after reading Cap. reply about the same point made me willing to rethink my perspectives of this scene.

On the same side, when thinking that going to talk with Cassie would have some sort of positive outcome since their talk is meaningful AND it wasn't something planned as you said. As you said² the randomness sometimes is part of life, I have no objection to that neither find any trouble with that



About here, I think it's the same point I made to Captain on my reply. I believe we are on the same page here, it's pretty evident that choosing the sexy fun implies how Jack sees Cassie and the whole situation, how he prioritizes his own interests over the well being of other people. That's was my point that maybe I didn't make myself clear on my first post (not a native english sp... blah blah blah). This "sexy fun" moment and the others where Jack deflects Cassie (things that also happen on the Solo Cassie love path) like the " I'm sorry vs so how was the shower" make very clear how Jack is dealing with the whole situation and how he is a self-centered person who gives zero fucks about others, yet they differ in.. "intensity" let's say from the other ones.

The lingerie and "I don't accept" just... don't prove this same thing that Jack doesn't give a fuck, - That Much at least -. Let's say that in my perspective the first examples shows a big asshole while these other two are an low-to-average asshole hah. But as you said, maybe I didn't pay the necessary level of attention to understand that these scenarios are not that different at all, also Cap gave me some food for tought.




By reading the thread I guess it's fair to say that the majority of players who complained about the bad ending fitted the second case you said, the reflection the bad ending provokes it's a hard pill to swallow for the player. Yet I believe in some few specific cases people who complained were aware of the dichotomy of jack lack of empathy and emotional responsability over others (even if he questions about that and his attitudes sometimes) VS the gradually improving Jack, yet felt bad for the harshness of the ending.

So, my point may seem irrelevant at all but I hope I'm being clearer now. I guess it's important to recognize that not everyone who complained about the bad ending is necessarly complaining because they got disappointed that their harem fuckfest didn't happen. Assuming & Pointing out that everyone who felt bad about the ending fits on this same bag solely by complaining doesn't seem to be a good way to start productve discussions, wich I think it's one of the greatest qualities of this VN, it inspires into thinking about human relations and discussing with other people.

About my experience, the Dual Love route was my second play, I'm almost sure that when I got to the Key choice between Eve and Cassie I "cheated" and read both outcomes then decided for Cassie due to the quality of the interaction. Personally, my first route was Eve solo Love after avoiding the start of Cassie dom path, since I played the most close to how I would act in real life (call me a chicken, I wouldn't kiss cassie hah).

I didn't felt bothered by the game and the events at all, got me more intrigued I think. If something got close to bother I would say it's the full asshole and the Psychotic Knight one, yet this last one has a unique sad moment about Jack wich I think it's crucial to the game and to understand Jack Psyche, it bothered me more of the sadness and probable outcomes it will have, nothing on the sense of rage quitting or disagreeing with the narrative.

Hello !

Don't worry I'm not an English native either. I know the struggle ^^

As for my answer it wasn't directed at you but a general reply to the average "that bad ending is undeserved" and "those choices we had to make are randoms".

I went into day 5 knowing there was a famous scene 7 but not knowing the extent of it or even which route it was on, and got it the first time I went for "dual love". You can guess it, I picked Eve in that shop. As soon as Cassie breaks down and with the day continuing and Jack waiting, I could feel the dread building up. I just knew something wasn't right. I wasn't ready for the gut punch that happened when we learn about the twins.
Took me a few mn to calm down (I felt extremely bad by the end of it) and I reflected on what happened and retried when told there was in fact a good outcome. I never blamed the Captain for this. Nor do I blame him for how dark the asshole routes are. Almost got a panick attack with day 6 and "the nightmare" and I prob won't test the "pure asshole" anymore, but the moronic and "psycho knight" are very much worth a try. They give an important insight in everyone's mind.

That game is like a giant cluedo. If you want the full picture you have to play every routes. And I love it for that. Much more nuanced than you'd expect from this type of story. Just ask for some investement and attention from the player.
It's not for your casual VN fan. It probably doesn't really belong on this site because most people here are just looking for braindead porn.
That being said I'm really happy and glad to see more and more people appreciating it and understanding it. They might have never tried it without f95 and I'm confident that by the end of it there'll be a community of fans acknowledging what it brought to the genre the way they did for Acting Lesson.

 

[The Naughty Captain]

Sure ! Thanks for the in dept answer cap., it made a lot of sense. Making myself clear that my point wasn't of any disagreement to the way the narrative was established nor being troubled with the possible randomness of events (so is life). It was more of a subjective personal view of - before your answer - where I thought that the "I'm sorry vs So.. how was the shower" moments and alikes showed more the "core" of Jack character than the ones you gave me your points. Again thanks for answering and for providing this VN experience with the toughts it provokes.

Well, you are right.
"I'm sorry" and its following sequence of events shows a Jack that cares more for Cassie than with the "How was the shower" option.

Ultimately that's the line to follow to avoid the bad end: Care about Cassie.

Sorry if I misunderstood here, that means that Eve told about their first kiss to Cassie before the lingerie store ?

No. Cassie and Eve spend a long time in her room on the morning of day 5. That's when Eve tells Cassie everything about her and Jack.

 

[Deleted member 446419]

This one works fine for me.

Mods please add the link to this patch in OP. Smaller files such as patches and mods should have a mirror on local servers as well as other sites. The lewd patcher seems to be down atm.

 

[indio68]

is there a way to have both the girls and avoid bad things happen to them? thanks there is no updatefd walkthrough.or i cant find any.. i choosed Cassie at shop and now i'min the bed with Eve..and i would choose I dont accept..if i do this can the rape be avoided and i can pusue the harem path? (i can add kelly too?).thanks

 

[f96zonetrooper]

is there a way to have both the girls and avoid bad things happen to them? thanks there is no updatefd walkthrough.or i cant find any.. i choosed Cassie at shop and now i'min the bed with Eve..and i would choose I dont accept..if i do this can the rape be avoided and i can pusue the harem path? (i can add kelly too?).thanks

You can go for both Eve love and Cassie love and avoid the bad ending, but it is a very narrow path in regard to affection.

Spoiler: dual_love_path

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[BBZ01]

To be honest, I never intended to get the rape tag.
I don't want to show it and even less glorify it. It's awful, terrifying and horrible. Just saying it happened should be enough. It's not supposed to be exciting nor fappable and I have no intention to show more of it. If it ever happens again in the story, it will be the same way I already did it. A single image, a couple of lines.

The Naughty Captain Thanks and 100% agree plus your story is much too deep for that. I think I'm aware from the bad ending I encountered what you wanted to show with the rape scene (shock and horror). On a personal note I'd be happy with no image at all...

NB: I did read in a walkthrough that the only true "good" love path would be to date Cassie, however, I'm not sure that it is... That would still upset Eve and further damage the already fragile relationship the MC has managed to forge with her (even following the sole love path). Likewise love relationship with Eve as the MC and Eve would lose the innocent brother/sister support if they got together although given their ages if you accept that the MC is truly repentant once he understands the full impact of his previous jealous and selfish actions that may be what they'd decide on... So I could see that they both may need to try it. To me the only true "good" path would be for the MC to be repentant and supportive to both Cassie and Eve (neutral) with a possible love relationship with Kelly (who also needs a loving and supportive relationship). This would also appear to be similar to the point of the story where the MC tries to take revenge for Cassie having been raped and ends up being supported by Kelly and reading between the lines manages to keep the MC semi-sane...

 

[Pede rasta 1]

many options, I already played this 4 times and I never get tired, 100 points in consistent dialogues between the different selections, I love it ... I love this game

 

[GTBALL_BALLY]

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Dev Update #117

As always after a release, the week has been busy with various things and despite having removed some lines from my task list I feel like I didn't advance much.

The Trello board.
I reworked it. I'll post more detailed information for each task, like numbers of words, images posed and rendered... You will be able to visualize my progress more easily.

The trigger lists.
They are up to date and I added a trigger list for the dom paths and the Moronic Hero, Evil Asshole and Psychotic Knight Path. Some paths are still missing but they are very straightforward for now, so I don't think they really are necessary. Let me know if you feel the need for those!

Story map.
I reworked the story map.
I can tell you that Day 6 part 2 will contain 8 new scenes.

New environments.
I started working on them. So far, I'm not really happy with what I come up with. I have a fairly precise idea of what I want but I struggle to find the assets I need. I spent about three hours searching for some decent seamless patterns today. And it wasn't a pleasing experience.

Release for Gunners.
Tomorrow is release day, again, this time for the gunner tier.
I'm building the distribution as I write these lines and I will upload them during the night.
Summer Scent v0.6.1b will bring some typo and bug and logic error corrections.

Thank you for your support!
The Naughty Captain.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I don't know if this was already reported :

If Jack does not shake Luke's hand and instead fails the Eve sub path on day 3 night, the next morning when taking a shower he still references the Luke scene from the cafe which did not happen.

    if ep3sissubrejected == True or ep3sissubrejected2 == True:
        off "I may have gone a little too far with Eve last night."
        off "She was so pissed that I couldn't even protest when she kicked me out of the kitchen."
        off "Shaking this guy's hand was definitely a bad idea but what else could I have done?"
        off "The guy is twice my size, he would have smacked me down like an insect."
        off "There must be something I can do to fix this situation, but what?"

 

[Sancho1969]

SanchoMod update status:

Day 4 and revised Day 2 & 3 now completed and uploaded for testing. Re-download, extract, and install (overwriting as necessary). I'm moving on to Day 5 so revisions to Day 4 are likely.

Testers: Please start from New Game (to fully test revisions) and please report any bugs found in ChoiceGuide of Day 1 thru end of Day 4.

Link is in the OP listed as "Multi-Mod". You can always get information and details there. In the mod's thread OP you'll see prominent green text which will let you know the current status of the ChoiceGuide progression (updated frequently). Again, all other features of SanchoMod are complete. Regards. It's almost Crown & Coke time for me.

 

[The Naughty Captain]

I don't know if this was already reported :

If Jack does not shake Luke's hand and instead fails the Eve sub path on day 3 night, the next morning when taking a shower he still references the Luke scene from the cafe which did not happen.

    if ep3sissubrejected == True or ep3sissubrejected2 == True:
        off "I may have gone a little too far with Eve last night."
        off "She was so pissed that I couldn't even protest when she kicked me out of the kitchen."
        off "Shaking this guy's hand was definitely a bad idea but what else could I have done?"
        off "The guy is twice my size, he would have smacked me down like an insect."
        off "There must be something I can do to fix this situation, but what?"

Thank you !
I'll look into it !

 

[Sancho1969]

SanchoMod update status:

Working on SanchoGallery. It functions proper meaning it doesn't trigger achievements (that way you still have to earn them on your own via standard playthrough), bypasses stat variable requirements for choices (example: SisSub > 10) but if a scene's menu choice depends on a previous scene' menu choice then that dependency remains intact (example: Choice 2 requires Choice 1 to have been chosen within the scene otherwise disabled). Also the ChoiceGuide is disabled in replays...just because, and the MiniMenu button becomes an "End Replay" button automatically. Here's a teaser of work in progress:

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Oh, you want to try it? No problem. Re-download from the mod's OP, re-install as normal. Enjoy.

 

[BBZ01]

Just to say that for the Eve love (only) path you don't have to kiss Cassie as noted in the walkthrough, so you don't have to cheat on her. I don't know if this is a new bit of coding in the recent release but if so I'm happy to see it.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Just to say that for the Eve love (only) path you don't have to kiss Cassie as noted in the walkthrough, so you don't have to cheat on her. I don't know if this is a new bit of coding in the recent release but if so I'm happy to see it.

If you don't kiss Cassie on day 2, you cannot kiss Eve that night when she watches a movie ... so you miss that scene.
I think Cassie tells Eve about her kiss and so motivates Eve to battle for mc ...

 

[BBZ01]

If you don't kiss Cassie on day 2, you cannot kiss Eve that night when she watches a movie ... so you miss that scene.
I think Cassie tells Eve about her kiss and so motivates Eve to battle for mc ...

Agreed you miss the scene but you can still end on the sole love path with Eve (she'll end up with you if you don't mess it up later on). You also still get the option to meet Kelly.

 

[Sancho1969]

Just to say that for the Eve love (only) path you don't have to kiss Cassie as noted in the walkthrough, so you don't have to cheat on her. I don't know if this is a new bit of coding in the recent release but if so I'm happy to see it.

If you don't kiss Cassie on day 2, you cannot kiss Eve that night when she watches a movie ... so you miss that scene.
I think Cassie tells Eve about her kiss and so motivates Eve to battle for mc ...

While you can technically achieve the SisLovePath without Cassie kiss (and you have to choose prior perfectly to get the required SisAff(31) for her to sleep in MC's bed night of Day 2 where the SisLovePath variable is), you miss a quite a few scenes, affection points, cheevos, pertinent dialogue, etc. It is what it is.

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[BBZ01]

f96zonetrooper I agree but doing so without cheating on Cassie gives both Eve and the MC the opportunity to "come clean" to Cassie later on and not potentially end up with a distraught Cassie (upset probably but no more) and given the plot so far there is likely to be a heavy price to be paid for cheating in the end...

 

[sorco2003]

If you don't kiss Cassie on day 2, you cannot kiss Eve that night when she watches a movie ... so you miss that scene.
I think Cassie tells Eve about her kiss and so motivates Eve to battle for mc ...

f96zonetrooper I agree but doing so without cheating on Cassie gives both Eve and the MC the opportunity to "come clean" to Cassie later on and not potentially end up with a distraught Cassie (upset probably but no more) and given the plot so far there is likely to be a heavy price to be paid for cheating in the end...

That's as duningtwo and eyy_b0ss said.
The kissing Eve on day 2 is just a bonus.
If you have enough point she stays with you on day 3, even if you didn't kiss her.

 

[BBZ01]

Umm... I guess we'll see where this goes...
We already know that Cassie and Eve share pretty much everything and (in reality) something this fundamental wouldn't be possible to hide for long anyway, especially given we are talking 18 year olds... You'd be able to tell in the body language that something fundamental has happened and on the "morning after" it's clear that Cassie is aware something is amiss...
Where you end up on the dual love route (if you play without the walkthrough) it's likely that Cassie leaves and meets the evil twins and meets a bad end followed by Eve. Cheating in this way isn't much different so I guess we'll see where The Naughty Captain takes this... Intriguing