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HumbleBumbleBee
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Do you even know why it is "Hard" to mod SVS?
Because I have never made a plugin mod for any game before SVS, and the only experience I have is basic C#.
If I could figure out how to make a plugin with basic knowledge, what is the excuse then? other than lack of interest.
The only problem with IL2CPP is that it makes reading the game code annoying. You need to set up Ghidra and read a messy C++ code if you want to know what does what.
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SVS doesn't get modded as much because it simply isn't as popular as AA1/AA2 and KK.
The reason could be anything. Could be the hard readability of the code, where only modders with some reverse-engineering knowledge can do some modding with it and/or have specific tools made for such games by people with advanced reverse-engineering knowledge. (i.E. not as easy to mod game all around)
Or SVS is simply to new.
But SVS does get modded, and the amount of available mods aren't little to none, judging as I've glanced over from the the koikatsu discord server by manlymarco where most mods currently are AFAIK.
Sure, none of them are groundbreaking or immense value-adding to the game kind-of-stuff that advances the gameplay. For such results you can far easier achieve with current modding tools for KK/AA2 with the downside the outdates character 3d art.
My personal reason as to why SVS doesn't get lots of modders attention is simply because SVS is not a 'good game'. Nobody mods a game when they don't feel strongly toward the vanilla experience. Example ? Skyrim vs. Starfield. While both heavily mod-supported and played by millions, only skyrim got the modders attention because they all loved the vanilla game well enough to bother making mods for it to make skyrim more suit their tastes and wishes for what it could have been. Starfield doesn't inspire any of its players and thus, less to none inspiration for modding occurs.
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It seemed to me that after your detailed instructions with installing the HF-patch 1.9 patch, the game version will also change.
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HF Patch Version and any other fan patch version ≠ SVS Game Version
The repack in the first post brings an outdated version of SVS that you can update from illgames official patches from their website, which you did upgrade to 1.1.6 (currently newest version) when you follow his detailed instructions.
Atleast with HF patch, you won't see its version number inside the game, only SVS version of itself is shown in the corner.
Same repack is running on HF Patch Version 1.6, unrelated to SVS vanilla version. Currently HF Patch 1.9 is the newest version and tradition is you install such fan patches only after you've installed every official illusion patch beforehand.
HF Patch does not change the version there, it displays version of game, once you follow the instruction I've pasted above you will get version 1.1.6. One thing worth note is that HF Patch seems to have some problematic plugins there. I had a massive performance issues and turns out removing VarietyOfScales as well as those with Sardine and Fish in name solved it. HF Patch is just a bundle of mods together with injector.
If anyone is interested, those are the files I removed from the HF Patch 1.9 installation that seems to be the reason for abysmal performance compraed to old version 1.6 that comes with the repack from first post
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_SardineHead.dll
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_SardineTail.dll
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_Fishbone.dll
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_VarietyOfScales.dll
I haven't done much testing to determinate if one or all of them are at fault, they were not present in original repack and this is how I found them. Chances are it breaks some mods or cards, so far I did not noticed any problem though.
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_SardineHead.dll
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_SardineTail.dll
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_Fishbone.dll
- BepInEx/plugins/SVS_VarietyOfScales.dll
I haven't done much testing to determinate if one or all of them are at fault, they were not present in original repack and this is how I found them. Chances are it breaks some mods or cards, so far I did not noticed any problem though.
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Can you upload the MapLoader provided there? Discord link won't open for me here...
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I'd also argue part of it is SVS is the 4th game of this style and gameplay hasn't really evolved from AA1 (granted I never played AA2 and KK but am aware they do have their differences). How restrictive the player's options are for starters, you largely still can't do much outside finding girls that are easy to fuck. Can't initiate 3somes on your own despite AI Shoujo allowing you to do so very easily; not even an option that brings up the NPCs and shows who you can and can't 3some so you can go hundreds of hours of it just not happening.
Then there's little things such as the inability to be a voyeur. Everybody else can masturbate or stare while standing right on top of you while you're fucking, so why can't you do the same? You're either kind of close to the NPCs having sex or you're stopping it wholesale to break it up or compete. Hell it'd be great if you could watch and if you have a good relationship with the NPCs ask if you could join it. You're not even allowed to masturbate in seclusion. What if I wanted to do that to pass time in game, only to have a girl either hop on my dick then and there or blackmail me? That could be fun.
Thing is when the loop is just fucking, there's other games that offer that and more. Then when you add in the ability to manipulate NPC behavior to whatever you want, then SVS pretty much becomes a fucking simulator with not much substance. Though admittedly I do like messing with it due to being able to pull characters straight from online and people get very creative and outlandish with the designs which can be fun in its own way.
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You're right in all those ideas. You could wager they're hearing those ideas from the JP side, too. Illsoft knows they could advance the mechanics. Yet they didn't do it. They never did anything even after collapsing and reforming game dev studio.
Like, they must have played the top dlsite hentai games and atleast made the neurological connection in their brain of how a good idea it would be to implement few of these things. Yet they never did anything of sorts. Fuck it.
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Thanks. I did installed that but thought the one mentioned in github was different.
Though looks like my problem still persists. If I ask someone to follow and go into "Shrine", if I get out of "Public Restroom" in beach, or sometimes other places, I'm getting an endless loading screen with voice and bgm dump. Loading goes on for 3-4 minutes until I just close the game.... Don't know why this is happening.
I don't think it's my system is weak for this game, but idk.
See if removal of the files mentioned in https://f95zone.to/threads/summer-vacation-scramble-final-all-dlc-illgames.246998/post-17822765 help. Make backup of them first so you can restore in case it does not help.
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I say it from the beginning: I'm an idiot, that's why I ask what to do before I fuck it all up.
I don't understand much about how all this works and I think I could use some help. I have to download the game from the first post, then update it with the illagames version 1.1.6, then do I have to look for something? I'm lost there, I don't know if I have to download hf (which I don't know what it is, oh my god so many abbreviations) or download the personality DLC from the first post?
also if you know what mods or plugins exist to make the game better, I would appreciate it.
I don't understand much about how all this works and I think I could use some help. I have to download the game from the first post, then update it with the illagames version 1.1.6, then do I have to look for something? I'm lost there, I don't know if I have to download hf (which I don't know what it is, oh my god so many abbreviations) or download the personality DLC from the first post?
also if you know what mods or plugins exist to make the game better, I would appreciate it.