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to be fair is one of the most crucial questions of the game, and given how ambiguous the whole situation is written... Is not surprising newcomers get confused over Nika and Nami relationship status. That said, the discussion is quite tiring as well, even though I have took part in many of them.About once a month I check the thread, and I swear every single time people here argue about Nika being a Zane and Nika and Nami being related. It seems as if these discussions never ended.
I remember participating in them too.
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sorry if i came across like a newbee,i just played the steam version 5 times this week,after dont giving a fuck...
I was just curious about the mods choices...
But i'll never backout when i say Nika and Bella are the perfect match...
I don't care about how Bella looks,i'm impressed about her story...
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Not at all. You played something that you liked and wants to talk about it, nothing more human. The fandom has just over analysed much of the game so far, and some topics are just beaten down by now.
Bella is by far the most popular LI, also the one with most screen time. Their dynamic is really great - and one of Ocean strength in writing- but is just to early to say anything, half of the LIs had not a chance to shine.
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The problem is WIAB...
We know William Zane has some serious impact...
I tried a "Miu only" run,it just don't fit the story...
Obviously many girls are Will's daughters ...
But till extent?
Nika's not a pure Zane,maybe Will fucked Mommy Revera?Who knows?
"thinking face" didn't Mommy from Aziz looked like the girl who is asking you to join the art course?
In mensa?
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LOL i don't even like blondes...
But mostly every avn i like,the best match is a blonde O.O
Leap of faith,first run was the obvious choice,second run was Lexy...
Best story related avn was City of broken dreamers...
Still disliking blondes,i fell for the blonde again... ingame
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I like Bella and Nika as partners in crime, that's all. The events in the game are very clear that their behavior is wrong. So if Bella doesn't face the consequences of her actions, she will fall straight to the bottom of my list. I love morally ambiguous characters, but I absolutely hate it when an author artificially pulls them out of trouble and makes excuses for them. In the latter case, that's exactly what's happening with Bella right now. And I don't like it.please delight me
Like i said,i'm just curious what you guys are thinking if i sound like a jerk,i'm sorry...
Thats why i said i'm like Bella in some ways
Bella can't confront Nika's behaviour. He manipulated her into joining his stupid plan.
I'd say Nami is the person who can confront his behavior.
I would argue that Vanessa is a female Nika. But I agree that Bella has a lot in common with him too.
I'd prefer to keep it ambiguous.
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That's where you are wrong (ofcourse i don't know Ocean's intention!)
Vanessa is dangerous,like really...
She can and absolutely will confront Nika at some point,Nika grave his own grave ...
She is (how Ocean described her i don't know) superior when it comes to manipulating men,BUT Nika likes to play people too,and he will maybe outplay her,but i guess Vanessa and Nika will work together at some point,mainly when Nika needs the scapegoat...
Bella will fall for him hard,cuz she thinks she is in control...
When she realize that Nika played her BUT also realize that he never wanted to hurt her,she will get it...
So you are partly right...
Why i can't Nami?
Cuz she is forcing him ,yes Bella forced him out of his shell too,but Nami's actions are hurtfull...
Nami knows him to the core,and is still manipulating him...
Is it just some silly game?
Only Ocean knows...
Vanessa is dangerous,like really...
She can and absolutely will confront Nika at some point,Nika grave his own grave ...
She is (how Ocean described her i don't know) superior when it comes to manipulating men,BUT Nika likes to play people too,and he will maybe outplay her,but i guess Vanessa and Nika will work together at some point,mainly when Nika needs the scapegoat...
Bella will fall for him hard,cuz she thinks she is in control...
When she realize that Nika played her BUT also realize that he never wanted to hurt her,she will get it...
So you are partly right...
Why i can't Nami?
Cuz she is forcing him ,yes Bella forced him out of his shell too,but Nami's actions are hurtfull...
Nami knows him to the core,and is still manipulating him...
Is it just some silly game?
Only Ocean knows...
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You're raising a lot of topics, so I won't try to reply to all. Ocean's written in a WiaB devlog that's been shared here that there is a massive change to WiaB in the next update. Read the section titled change. The change means that currently we don't even know who is really a Zane any more. Something that is also important is that in SG Nika isn't related to any of the LI's. So if Nika is Willi's, the LI's are not. It is that simple, because of business, it's not steam, but patreon.
These speculations are things people used to think were obvious, but now no one can say with any certainty until we understand the change Ocean has written into WiaB. So I'm personally impatient for that to update so I can speculate better.
Thanks man,i really didn't know.
Like i said,Sasha is important,she looks like Summer's twin (maybe its cuz of DAZ or Blender models,who knows,but she looks like her),Sasha also wears a ring ,and where she is wearing it,it's like a wedding ring,in germany we wear wedding rings on the ringfinger on your right hand...
I guess Sasha is Summers sister,but it wouldn't explain why she didn't confront Nika.So i go with cousin,cuz they MUST be related.Remember what Ely said.
They are related.
IF William (WIAB) didn't bang them all
It's stated that William (WIAB) is Sasha's and Adrianna's father,cuz why would they look like that when Jenna said "getting backshots from william instead of training"?
It only depends on Ocean's view ...
If he intended to make SG after 20-25 years after WIAB it makes sence,problem is,WIAB isn't finished and considering how Ocean behaved,it won't likely never finish...But who knows,maybe he's derailing WIAB to not spoil SG ...
He clearly got more attention from SG...
So things about Sasha - the ring signifies nothing that we know yet. We know that she has had difficulty with married men falling for her, so she might be wearing a ring to pretend to be unavailable, it happens. Left or right hand, really depends on cultural upbringing for someone named Petrova, and whether it's intended as a wedding or engagement ring in whichever culture. It's not very clear cut yet.
Also, like Bella has dark eyebrows, Sasha also might not be blonde/white. That's just the first way we've seen her. Almost all Ocean's blondes seem to be bottle blondes based on their eyebrows being as dark as Robin or Zara's, but it might not be intentional, just an oversight. We know that Sasha has been getting some of her friends to dye their hair (Ayua didn't do it properly) so there could be a chance Sasha does dye her hair completely differently.
Elsa is Summer's cousin, but we haven't seen anything suggesting Elsa is related to Sasha that I remember. It is possible, but also remember that Nika has met Summer's parents (another strike against Bella's sister being Summer, he'd recognise Amber as the woman who called him shit to his face) so if he recognises Elena Petrova, that'll be something. It's an interesting thought, given that Nika does sense something familiar about Sasha. I like this idea more than Summer getting a whole new new birthday suit to hide her freckles as Sasha, that just doesn't make sense (also, going to that effort to hide her from Nika, while staying in the same city, and then interacting with him? Too much pain from skin grafts or bleaching therapy or whatever).
About Willi banging everyone, well, in old WiaB, he banged plenty, new WiaB so far we only know of Miru. Sure there will be lewd scenes, but we don't know how much of the old story will remain true. In any case, if Adrianna is Ayua's older sister from Miru, Miru has to have at least two kids between WiaB and SG - 18 year old Ayua needs at least 18 years and 9 months to exist, after Miru's given birth to all her older sisters. If that's the case. As none of the LI's in WiaB have kids (well maybe Helen still does, Maybe Scarlet is still lewdable) for Ayua for have older full sisters and be Willi's, requires a lot more time than 20 years. Ocean might just ignore that problem though. I wouldn't say that Sasha and Adrianna are confirmed to be his daughters by that. William could be the black uncle that embarrasses the whole family, even if he's not their father. Sasha might share the look because she's embarrassed for Adrianna. But all of this still needs to be explained by Ocean's change in WiaB.
Anyway, glad you're enjoying looking at the game deeply I'm also inspired that way. Until the next releases though, it's a bit to uncertain to know any of these things.
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I don't see any downsides.
They should confront each other.And don't forget their new big family, they definitely should use them in their mindgames.
But the thing is, eventually their potential confrontation should also hurt them both to the point where it forces them to come to some sort of reconciliation.
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Yeah, I always wondered where the idea came from that Bella has the most screen time. I'm too lazy to count the renders, but Nami is with the MC almost all the time. They're together at home, they're together almost the whole first day of college. They visit Vic in hospital together, they hang out at the lake together, they go to Nick's house together, they hang out at Vic's together, they're at the book club together... There's just a ton of scenes where they're together. But Bella suddenly stole all the screen time. How is that possible?
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When season 2 finally arrives Zaras involvement is going to skyrocket
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Personally I prefer as was originally, but the question is not what we might prefer, the question is what satisfies Patreon TOS and I don't think this ambiguity will do for much long. I also think it hurts the storytelling.
I am not at all surprised by that, but it has a big difference between the time spend in Nami and Bella. Nami has more screentime with the MC because they live together but maybe only half of this time is spend working on their relationship, Bella on the other hand, every single scene advances their relationship. That is why that it has this perception. When we are with Bella is all about her, when we are with Nami it might be all about her (lake) ou be about something else (book club).
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I was also interested in this, so I took up the calculations.
It's probably just that most people follow Bella's path and don't pay attention to everything else.
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It's called tunnel visionI was also interested in this, so I took up the calculations.
