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The Leia is Nick's-Ex wife theory is so stupid, we even see the mom of Zara, she looks nothing like Leia.

And lets be real, Nick would be buried in some grave already if it would have been Leia and she wanted the kids/his stuff.

Furthermore there is really no need for Leia to be a gold digger, shes rich herself. This is dumb.

Its even more likely that William is the real father instead of nick but i doubt that either. Imo Vanessa's eyes are a red herring and Zara and Vanessa belong to the few not connected to william (yet?).
 

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Its even more likely that William is the real father instead of nick but i doubt that either. Imo Vanessa's eyes are a red herring and Zara and Vanessa belong to the few not connected to william (yet?).
Do you doubt that William is the Allfather of Wollust?
 

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If Nojiko appears in WiAB...I might just lose my shit. If she's that hot in SG, imagine her in her 20's :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:
Don't tell Mavi but I'd dropkick Katie in a heartbeat for some Noji :LOL:

EDIT: Although idk...I'm assuming Nojiko is around Katie, Kat and Zoey's age or at most William and Leia's. But she still looks so young. I know there's the asian stereotype about slow aging until a certain point but she could pass for early 30's in SG with no issues. Which would make her a kid in WiAB.
 
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If Nojiko appears in WiAB...I might just lose my shit. If she's that hot in SG, imagine her in her 20's :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:
Don't tell Mavi but I'd dropkick Katie in a heartbeat for some Noji :LOL:

EDIT: Although idk...I'm assuming Nojiko is around Katie, Kat and Zoey's age or at most William and Leia's. But she still looks so young. I know there's the asian stereotype about slow aging until a certain point but she could pass for early 30's in SG with no issues. Which would make her a kid in WiAB.
Wouldnt be suprised if Noji is coincidentally exactly 38 years old (if wiab is 20 years ago) lol

But imo her looks are working kinda good for a range from dunno 26-38 or something, its good enough imo (talking about age appropriate looks, when we talk about beauty its perfect anyway :love:)
 

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If Nojiko appears in WiAB...I might just lose my shit. If she's that hot in SG, imagine her in her 20's :sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:
Don't tell Mavi but I'd dropkick Katie in a heartbeat for some Noji :LOL:

EDIT: Although idk...I'm assuming Nojiko is around Katie, Kat and Zoey's age or at most William and Leia's. But she still looks so young. I know there's the asian stereotype about slow aging until a certain point but she could pass for early 30's in SG with no issues. Which would make her a kid in WiAB.
She could be one of Miru's clan, younger sister or cousin, but who knows. Supposed to be best friends with the dead parents. Is William dead now? Who was their mother? Will we ever find out?
 

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Do you doubt that William is the Allfather of Wollust?
To give a serious answer: i dont know man, i was convinced that Nika is willy and Leia's child and Nami willy and daphnes and everyone else more or less too, at least every petrova, zane and maybe reverra :LOL: for the longest time but ocean is changing so much and patreon ... i have no clue whats going on anymore or what could be happening.

Wouldnt even be this surprised anymore if they all came out of some kind of mysterious lab instead of having real parents just to evade the patreon incest thing at this point lol

I think it would be wasted potential for Nika to not be the son of william (or at least another cool/important guy we dont know in wiab yet, maybe someone who sacrificed himself for them or noji or even an antagonist who the zanes killed) with a 2 avn setup like that.

And lets be real, all these little connections like nami's earring or Katie appearing and being very interested in Nami and Nika would be so UBER lame if it turns out the relation is that ... i dunno .. Mr. Cyrus was Leia's driver for three months or something.

It would fit to the similar vibes im getting from wiab/sg at times compared to tv shows like Lost or The Blacklist tho lol
 
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To me, Ayua is clearly William and Miru's daughter, since she's a silver-eyed Asian and Katie is her aunt. As for Nami and Nika, I don't think they're related to the Zanes, even if Nojiko obviously had a common past with Katie.
That's why Nika looks so much like William?
 

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She could be one of Miru's clan, younger sister or cousin, but who knows. Supposed to be best friends with the dead parents. Is William dead now? Who was their mother? Will we ever find out?
No William is still around, we learn about this at the Bookclub. Same with Leia.

Nojiko is not a Maeda (Miru's family) if she hasnt changed her last name at least. Nojiko knew/knows Scarlett (Sister from Helen in Wiab) tho
 

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To give a serious answer: i dont know man, i was convinced that Nika is willy and Leia's child and Nami willy and daphnes and everyone else more or less too, at least every petrova, zane and maybe reverra :LOL: for the longest time but ocean is chaning so much and patreon ... i have no clue whats going on anymore or what could be happening.

Wouldnt even be this surprised anymore if they all came out of some kind of mysterious lab instead of having real parents just to evade the patreon incest thing at this point lol

I think it would be wasted potential for Nika to not be the son of william (or at least another cool/important guy we dont know in wiab yet, maybe someone who sacrificed himself for them or noji or even an antagonist who the zanes killed) with a 2 avn setup like that.

And lets be real, all these little connections like nami's earring or Katie appearing and being very interested in Nami and Nika would be so UBER lame if it turns out the relation is that ... i dunno .. Mr. Cyrus was Leia's driver for three months or something.

It would fit to the similar vibes im getting from wiab/sg at times compared to tv shows like Lost or The Blacklist tho lol
I'm one of the few who really don't like the idea of MC being "the chosen one". Having some powerful background like so many stories. Also, with ocean, I never know when it comes to incest.

He was pretty clear that, for example, Nami and MC weren't siblings. He even changed the Zane family's relationship. Which people called bullshit because of the Patreon rules. Knowing that, if (and I really hope that's not the case), MC is William and Leia's son, he'd be the fruit of an incestuous relation. The kind of relation that ocean is doing everything to circumvent because of patreon.
 
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No William is still around, we learn about this at the Bookclub. Same with Leia.

Nojiko is not a Maeda (Miru's family) if she hasnt changed her last name at least. Nojiko knew/knows Scarlett (Sister from Helen in Wiab) tho
Cousins/Nieces often have different last names, if their father was from another family. Maybe that's not how it works in yours? :ROFLMAO:

I'm one of the few who really don't like the idea of MC being "the chosen one". Having some powerful background like so many stories. Also, with ocean, I never know when it comes to incest.

He was pretty clear that, for example, Nami and MC weren't siblings. He even changed the Zane family's relationship. Which people called bullshit because of the Patreon rules. Knowing that, if (and I really hope that's not the case), MC is William and Leia's son, he'd be the fruit of an incestuous relation. The kind of relation that ocean is doing everything to circumvent because of patreon.
By Patreon rules, even if Nami and Nika were not blood siblings, they still count as siblings due to adoption. Noji still counts as their mother, even if its' through adoption. Their rules still say anything going on between them is Incest. Also, I've played through a few times, and nowhere do I remember anything about Nika and Nami not being blood siblings. Can you tell me where in-game it said that? I might have missed it. They certainly consider themselves as actual siblings, and if they're descended from the Zanes, that would even be a family trait.

Maybe Ocean is gonna push this as far as it goes, then is willing to get banned, because it sure smells like Incest is gonna be on the table in this one. Only other option is the family breaks up, either geographically or by death.
 
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Cousins/Nieces often have different last names, if their father was from another family. Maybe that's not how it works in yours? :ROFLMAO:



By Patreon rules, even if Nami and Nika were not blood siblings, they still count as siblings due to adoption. Noji still counts as their mother, even if its' through adoption. Their rules still say anything going on between them is Incest.

Maybe Ocean is gonna push this as far as it goes, then is willing to get banned, because it sure smells like Incest is gonna be on the table in this one. Only other option is the family breaks up, either geographically or by death.
No chance.
First, they might be considered siblings, but only through adoption, not blood relation and that fact is headcanon. And even that is shaky, since ocean make it extremely clear that Nami/mc = roommate, Noji = their guardian.

He's not going to risk to lose his SG patreon after they nuked his WIAB page last time over bullshit.
I genuinely hope that Will/Leia is merely a red herring and that MC's origin is not as predictable and bland as the "chosen one" type of intrigue.
 
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