Don Sucio

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It's quite feasible that happened after Summer returned from her two-week holiday with her family. Summer disappearing seems rather drastic though!

One of my multitude of alternate head-canons is that Summer's father beat the living crap outta Nika (the "violent incident") as a consequence of whatever went down.
Really interesting, if i´m not wrong Summer and her family comes from "the elite" of the social class right? Something like a rich family,so do you think her father hit Nika very hard for try to have something with her daughter like sex or something like that or maybe something different, like her father being very annoyed for something Nika did to Summer and hurted her :unsure:
 

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This is also my working theory, but I am leaning towards Summer being in a vegetable state / brain dead.
It also resonates (with me at least) with what he says when the car accident Victoria has, he says something like "I am wondering if it would better you to die here instead of enduring it all", I would not think that you would say something like that if you did not go through it yourself or someone dear to you.
And I don't think that the accident he was in was bad enough.

What we also know is that in the cabin was the last time they touched, but he saw her one more time.
Everyone keeps refering to her as "lost" not dead, it also seems that they say that with great care.
We also know that Nami is partially responsible for his trauma.
We also know that Nami caused them to be picked up at the cabin by the police officer.

I think that this car accident happened on the way back from the cabin, him getting collapsed lungs and Summer in such a state that lead her to be brain dead, which is the last that the MC saw of Summer.
After that the summer's parents took Summer home, and they did not like the MC so he is not allowed to visit.






You have a good point here, I agree that Ocean would not use that plot point twice.
Now even more leaning towards vegatable state
I'd thought that the cinematic at the start with Victoria mind be a similar thing to what Nika witnessed with Summer. Maybe it happened that way, and he wants to leave because it brings some thoughts to mind (and Ocean wants to keep hiding what happened to Summer a bit longer than the intro). That would help explain the connection he feels with Vic if you accept her, when he says that her maybe needs her as much as she needs him (or something like that): he's thinking maybe she can help him see past Summer's accident (if it was such).

Don´t worry, i´m always careful with theories, even with my own theories :LOL: , and yeah it doesn´t nothing really plausible.

Maybe she is dead but i think it would be cool if she is still alive, the posibles fights between the girls we know now and Summer would be interesting to see, and of course if we are in Nami path would be interesting to see how she is going to handle that situation because we know Nami was a little jelous of Nika and Summer relationship ,or at least this is my view of the situation. I just have a thing for toxic girls, like jelous ones.

Anyway if Summer is dead i think is a best way to handle the plot, less problems for Ocean i think. With each passing day I believe more and more that Summer is truly gone, never to return.


Yeah, it could be. One thing is clear and is that Nami and Nika have something very good save between them, something that i suppose is not very moral and when we know about that we will see better what happened with Summer.
I'd had a thought that Nami might have pretended to be Summer at some point to try and get Nika back from Summer, and something unexpected happened. This could be the thing that Nika wants to reveal to Amber ...or Nami triggered the violent incident. You can see Nami's style starts changing to be like Summer, mimicking her in later flashbacks. Then the hairstyle at the lake - Nami knows what effect it will have, maybe because she got a strong reaction when she did it before.

Regarding toxic girls, I think it's going to be complex. Melanie Ceril sounds toxic and we haven't met her (I still think she's the goth at the pizza shop), Kate seems very petty and into revenge and wants Nika to spite Bella (so I assume there will be some sort of toilet incident with her like happened to Robin at the very least just to rile Bella), Vanessa will use her dark side of the force jedi mind tricks, so I'm pretty sure you're covered for fun. Oh and the bookclub seems incredibly backstabby.

It's quite feasible that happened after Summer returned from her two-week holiday with her family. Summer disappearing seems rather drastic though!

One of my multitude of alternate head-canons is that Summer's father beat the living crap outta Nika (the "violent incident") as a consequence of whatever went down.
This is one of my thoughts too, I'm wondering if Summer's parents were the corrupt cops connected to the church cult group in WiaB - when Nami calls Laverne to report Nika missing (Laverne being the family friend cop I think, I forget the details, but the family friend cop, which might mean Monica is connected to the Cyrus's - we don't know Ben's last name after all) either the dad gets there first and beats Nika, or Laverne drops both of them at Summer's parents place, and the dad beats NIka there. Nami feels guilty because she caused it. Summer stays away to keep her dad from killing Nika. Pretty thin on anything factual, but thick on speculation. Also, violent incident is different to an accident, so I think there is some human intention involved.

With the Steam release being far off, we have ample time to develop more theories for SG ...
Does Ayua's ability to read lips mean Helen from WIAB has never recovered from being mute?
Also, how did Bella's sister end up in a coma?
Oh wow, great pickup. I just assumed that was part of Miru's ninja training passed down from old WiaB. Very interesting theory, I like it a lot!

Also for everyone who read this post because they're wondering about Summer, courtesy of the pre-rework gallery:

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I'd had a thought that Nami might have pretended to be Summer at some point to try and get Nika back from Summer, and something unexpected happened. This could be the thing that Nika wants to reveal to Amber ...or Nami triggered the violent incident. You can see Nami's style starts changing to be like Summer, mimicking her in later flashbacks. Then the hairstyle at the lake - Nami knows what effect it will have, maybe because she got a strong reaction when she did it before.

Regarding toxic girls, I think it's going to be complex. Melanie Ceril sounds toxic and we haven't met her (I still think she's the goth at the pizza shop), Kate seems very petty and into revenge and wants Nika to spite Bella (so I assume there will be some sort of toilet incident with her like happened to Robin at the very least just to rile Bella), Vanessa will use her dark side of the force jedi mind tricks, so I'm pretty sure you're covered for fun. Oh and the bookclub seems incredibly backstabby.
Yeah! I remember reading that theorie of yours some time ago (not so much), i´m down in that, it would be very interesting if that is what happened, and if i´m honest is one of the things more i want to be real in the futures seasons... That would be very well connected and would explain very well why there is sexual tension between Nika and Nami and why is a secret between them, because is a taboo thing...

About toxic girls then i´m happy, those girls like Melanie Ceril and Robin appears for the first time in the chapter 5 right? I didn´t play it so i don´t know who they are (or maybe is just my head and if they appeared earlier then i can´t remember them)
 

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Yeah! I remember reading that theorie of yours some time ago (not so much), i´m down in that, it would be very interesting if that is what happened, and if i´m honest is one of the things more i want to be real in the futures seasons... That would be very well connected and would explain very well why there is sexual tension between Nika and Nami and why is a secret between them, because is a taboo thing...

About toxic girls then i´m happy, those girls like Melanie Ceril and Robin appears for the first time in the chapter 5 right? I didn´t play it so i don´t know who they are (or maybe is just my head and if they appeared earlier then i can´t remember them)
Yeah, I'm guessing it didn't go far before Nika realised considering Nami's a virgin, but it's still something to consider. This might also be why he gets so flustered when she talks about her lady parts.

If it's Melanie (she's just a person in the background at the moment), she was in 4.5, and her older sister appears in 5. Robin first appears in ch 2 I think, well, when you go the the gym the second time, but you go alone. I think she's there if you go with Nami as well. Kate first appears at the entrance of the college in Ch 1 as someone walking around, but we only find out who she is in Ch4.
 

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Really interesting, if i´m not wrong Summer and her family comes from "the elite" of the social class right? Something like a rich family,so do you think her father hit Nika very hard for try to have something with her daughter like sex or something like that or maybe something different, like her father being very annoyed for something Nika did to Summer and hurted her :unsure:
The story so far suggests Summer came from a loving, well-off family (the horde of cuddly toys she takes to Nia's birthday party, the way she's always very well-dressed, cousin Elsa's mother sternly pushing Elsa toward a modelling career, Summer and Elsa's families looking down upon and disapproving of average/ordinary Nika), although Summer did have a devilish, tomboy side.

Summer's father or family injuring Nika in a beating is kind of a long shot because Nika's flashback about the "violent incident" revealed he suffered two collapsed lungs. That would be one hell of a beating using some very heavy and dangerous implements.

It's both great and frustrating at the same time, that we have all these breadcrumbs of information but no whole baked loaf to solidify our theories. Anything seems to be possible at this stage.
 

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Melanie Ceril sounds toxic and we haven't met her (I still think she's the goth at the pizza shop)
The Goth chick appears as a student in background renders of ZPR college hallway. Melanie goes to a different college and, anyway, I doubt students like Bella would countenance her being at ZPR.
 
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The Goth chick appears as a student in background renders of ZPR college hallway. Melanie goes to a different college and, anyway, I doubt students like Bella would countenance her being at ZPR.
Oh really? I missed that one - definitely not then. She has quite a great look, like the two readheds (Sasha's friend and the 'wrong' cheeto). I wonder if as a dev, Ocean creats some characters just to put in the back ground, so if he needs a new one, he can just pull an extra out from the sidelines? That would be a clever technique, because you end up seeing them the whole time.
 

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Oh really? I missed that one - definitely not then. She has quite a great look, like the two readheds (Sasha's friend and the 'wrong' cheeto). I wonder if as a dev, Ocean creats some characters just to put in the back ground, so if he needs a new one, he can just pull an extra out from the sidelines? That would be a clever technique, because you end up seeing them the whole time.
I have a post from ages ago where I reproduced the renders of her both in the Pizzeria and in the college hallway, simply to point out that Nami was a bit too loud and indescrete at the Pizzeria, while Goth girl - a fellow ZPR student - was within earshot.

EDIT: Actually, looking back at those renders now, it's freaky how Goth girl always seems to be staring directly at the MC.


https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-5-beta-oceanlab.29981/post-10497433



It's hard to know how meaningful her appearances are. Maybe Ocean simply has a limited library of Daz3D assets that he uses as inconsequential background characters and it's not even that they're supposed to be the same person whenever they appear. I don't know...
 
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I have not played the C5 beta, I wanted to wait for the full release, and it's been awhile since I last played the game. So, I'm not really following much of the conversation here, but I just wanted to say one thing.
Summer is coming.
There, I'm glad I got that off my chest, please continue with your regular conversations.
 

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I guarantee you that animations and music are more irrelevant than a puzzle that makes up a game, an example is F1 2024 that will be released, I guarantee you that you make up more resources than just videos and images, I was already forgetting the songs kkkkkkkkkkk
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