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He's not greedy, but instead of just focusing on one game he's doing both.
It would be good after a long time after it is released for steam him to hire people to continue the other game, so he can focus on Summers Gone
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It would be good after a long time after it is released for steam him to hire people to continue the other game, so he can focus on Summers Gone
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Honestly only thing that can get me to hate the game is if he ruins the characters. Story rarely matters to me in AVN's I like compared to the characters. But yeah with him planning on doing like 30 or so chapters is worry some , especially with him doing WIAB. Which is why I used to wish he would drop it but I read once he is working on 2 games so he doesnt get burnout and if that's the case I rather him do 2 games even if it means slower updates to SG. As I rather him not drop this game for as long as possible.
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That be fighting talk. If drop anything, drop the one he took over hmmm? Why should lovers of the Vn that came first get fucked over?
Caarrrreeeefulllll.....
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I don't really know anything about what went on before. I didn't even know there used to be another dev on this game until about a month or so ago. I only used to have this opinion before I read a post he works on 2 games to fight against burnout which im all for if that is the case.
But the reason I used to have such an opinion before I read about the burnout thing is for 2 reasons. I don't wish for it to happen but if it ever became a choice between the 2 games. To me personally it just feels like this one is more popular and has a higher chance of him not quitting being a dev if it ever came down to a choice . I'm probably wrong and both are probably equally popular id imagine considering it's Ocean and his S tier renders. But that's just a nonsense what if situation and won't matter unless it actually happens.
Reason # 2 is more a selfish one not just cause I do like SG better. But to me I just always have a hard time remembering any detail about WIAB . I need to replay that game before I can even play the last update as I can't recall a thing other than I liked Miru but don't know why but with SG I just replay it for fun.
Edit : thanks if it wasn't for your reply would of never caught my typo. I meant to say I used to wish he would drop it not that I wish he would of dropped it lol. I need to re read my post more often.
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I also used to think that it’s not about greed. A few years ago I even defended Ocean. In response, they told me that I was mistaken and the next step in milking the fans would be reworks or other reasons and excuses that would slow down the release of the game...... I didn’t believe it. Time passed and I forgot about this conversation until Ocean announced that he was going to rework the game. As you can see, everything came true.... Then I knew nothing about the Patreon system and why it makes people become greedy, etc.
Nick seems like the rare good guy in an AVN. He's not creepy, he tries to relate to the MC and then helps Mila when she needs a place to stay, And career advice + he drops everything to help Noji and move she and her two kids into his house - no notice.No harm no fun.
By the way, everyone has probably already noticed that Nick's name begins with the same letter as Nika, Nami and Noji. This likely hint gives hope that the two families will eventually unite into one.
I'm going to hate it if Ocean makes Nick some kind of loser or an actual pervert. He seems like a cool dude and a good father figure for Nika.
That Is the definition of a good guy in my mind!
Cheers!!
... waitaminute, 30 chapters planned? And it's taken 5 years to get through 5 chapters, and those being the first ones and therefore probably the simplest?
At that rate, the game's gonna be done sometime near the end of the century...
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o really so did WIAB come first then? development wise I assumed both dev's just worked on this game and at some point Ocean decided to make a second game. Serious question I only discovered this game had a 2nd dev in the past a month or 2 ago.
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WIAB was released first. Regium was doing the renders for SG but it was Ocean's script. Regium only actually did the work for the first release, everything else was pretty much Oceans. That's why he didn't want it to die and be abandoned (when Regium quit) as it's Oceans story.
Can I finish the game solo? or will I be forced to pick/get stuck with someone? any mentioned endings/type of endings?
Idk if this is worded poorly but Ocean never completed WIAB. I forget what Chapter he was on....
But if you mean someting about finishing reworked stuff, then I am sorry.
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ah I see thanks yeah for all the info never would of guess WIAB came first but when you think about the name it totally makes sense now lol.
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Don't worry, he'll never finish either of them, no reason to pick
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Well I choose to see the positive in that. I'll be playing these 2 games till I die which is still a positive for me as I don't need a finished story but content with characters I like
Which this game already provides for me
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I think Ocean has said you can do a solo route, or a route with only casual relationships, ie if you fuck around, none of the LI's trust you.
Old WiaB got to CH6, given where we were at in it, I'd say it was about a third of the way through, we only once saw the hand of the antagonist.
That's a big future assumption my dude. You don't really know 100% if you will be sticking with these two games til the very end. Who knows if the games will still be around, won't be abandoned, put on hold for future projects etc.
Dude needs to work on two games just to not burn out but is talking about future games and working on two future projects at the same time to not get burnt out. Idk. lots of "Gonna do this/that" let's just see how far it goes and what ends up happening.
I don't like seeing people stoked/hyped/in love with this game only to be let down or ditched before it even starts to lift off.
Ohh, solo and or casual? fine... I can work with that. if I can't avoid-em, I'll just friend zone-em. Thank you for this lovely info.
Really? such a strange thing to do really... if he was almost done with it like, why not finish it, rework after? or just move on? not like it looked terrible/horrible before... strange strange strange
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You think I don't know all of this? You know there is something called seeing the positive in things no need to see the negative in everything , like you are doing right now just let people like me see the positive lol. Which is exactly what I said in my orginal comment "I choose to see the positive " so clearly I know all the bad like it probably never being finished
No, just being realistic and not living in make believe land.
You can stay there, I shall not, sir.
P.S I don't want you to hurt.... that's all I want to try and help people avoid. Sorry for that.
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I don't see it as living in as living in make believe land when I know the negative already. It's just choosing not to think about such things and staying positive until something bad does happen to the project . Besides you can say the same about almost any AVN on this site getting into AVN's as a hobby you have to know there is a high chance it will never be finished.
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I think Ocean realised after CH6 that doing an in game rework when he'd made a bunch of stupid story decisions would be harder and result in a weaker game. Given the quality leap at chapter 6 and then the massive leap to the rework, I still think he chose right. He'd basically got th e the poin where there would be massive reveals, everything was basically set up and ready to play out with the court case etc. there was still at least twice that amount again to do to finish it.