VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Maccabbee]

The more information we have, the more Nojiko becomes an enigma. On one hand, she should be this kind of poor saint who wants to write children's books, on the other hand, she knows all the ultra-rich people in the city and "scandalous" people.

The money thing is easily explainable, she went to college and med school while caring for two small children. Day care ain't cheap. If she didn't have a lot of money, she had to take a LOT of student loans (assuming the education system is fucked up like American ones instead of German ones). That is a crushing burden, financially...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

The money thing is easily explainable, she went to college and med school while caring for two small children. Day care ain't cheap. If she didn't have a lot of money, she had to take a LOT of student loans (assuming the education system is fucked up like American ones instead of German ones). That is a crushing burden, financially...

Explaining the lack of money is relatively easy, but most interactions in SG seem to confirm a social separation between those who have money and those who don't; which leads us to wonder how Noji is on friendly terms with the "Nobility"

 

[Deleted member 9055468]

William is not the uncle who played basketball with him, Nika would have known that his last name was Zane.

This always bugged me as a firm believer of Nika is William's son theory. But was this mention before or after Nika lost his parents? In the past we are shown of Nika and Nami, thery are already with Nojiko. There could be a possibility William used to check upon them at Nojiko and used to play with Nika there, but stopped as whatever the risk they were facing grew. Nika couldn't possibly be speaking about the time before losing his parents, as he was very little.

 

[yossa999]

This always bugged me as a firm believer of Nika is William's son theory. But was this mention before or after Nika lost his parents? In the past we are shown of Nika and Nami, thery are already with Nojiko. There could be a possibility William used to check upon them at Nojiko and used to play with Nika there, but stopped as whatever the risk they were facing grew. Nika couldn't possibly be speaking about the time before losing his parents, as he was very little.

Actually, there are many possibilities. Willie and Noji could not tell him that Willie was Zane. It could be another "uncle", who was good at basketball. It could be that RNasc was right (which is an extremly rare case ) and Willie will be kicked out of the Zanes in the next WiAB update.

I mean, to make a plausible theory, we need solid ground, and Ocean is too greedy to give it in the first season. With him, it could always be this, or it could be that, or it could change altogether in the future. But most likely the uncle means something to the story like the wing earrings.

EDIT: Nika probably just didn't give a shit about his uncle's last name and didn't remember it, just like he didn't remember Vic's last name, even though he read it on her ID.

 

[Crashbullet]

Actually, there are many possibilities. Willie and Noji could not tell him that Willie was Zane. It could be another "uncle", who was good at basketball. It could be that RNasc was right (which is an extremly rare case ) and Willie will be kicked out of the Zanes in the next WiAB update.

I mean, to make a plausible theory, we need solid ground, and Ocean is too greedy to give it in the first season. With him, it could always be this, or it could be that, or it could change altogether in the future. But most likely the uncle means something to the story like the wing earrings.

EDIT: Nika probably just didn't give a shit about his uncle's last name and didn't remember it, just like he didn't remember Vic's last name, even though he read it on her ID.

It shouldn't be forgotten that Aya Zane—and no one hid or concealed her, nor did she change her surname—when people with such authority could have easily done so. Why then would they have changed Niki and Nami's surnames if they were Zanes, bastards who were completely abandoned? No, that's too far-fetched.

I'm inclined to believe that Niki and Nami are war orphans—children of the defeated, perhaps Asaver's, etc.—or children of family friends. Monica and Ben could be Nami's parents, while Niki... well, he's a stray dog, so to speak, since he can't be a child of the Rivera or William households for the same reason as Aya Zane might be Zane. There's no point in changing a surname and hiding for 20 years.

But you are right, there is too little information yet.
PS
Or they could be the children of Dialan and (Helen?) when Dylan in a dialogue with William says "we lost two...". + Dylan has red hair, green eyes, Helen has black hair in places, gray, almost blue eyes.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

There's no point in changing a surname and hiding for 20 years.

There is no reason that we know of, but on the other hand we know that we know practically nothing.

 

[RNasc4444]

It could be that RNasc was right (which is an extremly rare case )

@ me you damn pussy!

When am I ever wrong? Huh!?!? It's hard to be "wrong" when most of what I do is state facts and give opinions. I think the only prediction I made so far is that Vic will eventually walk but rather late into the story.

Honestly I'm still extremely confident that my guesses for the relationships between characters pre WiAB Patreon ban were correct. I believe the stories of WiAB and SG were meant to be very closely connected and barring a surprise here and there, the connections would be rather obviousto anyone paying attention.

Sadly, Ocean's course correction threw everything into disarray and right now it's very hard to say who is connected to who and how. Given Ocean's track record, I fear he will try to cook up some changes that aren't really gonna work out for me. The further he strays from his original ideas the worse this story is going to get.

 

[yossa999]

@ me you damn pussy!

Usually people write "don't @ me", and frankly I know you'll see it eventually anyway

When am I ever wrong?

Always?
He's bound to be wrong'r he wouldn't be here! Starboard gun... FIRE!
Summer's Gone's too good for 'im, kick the louse out! Port gun... FIRE!

Huh!?!? It's hard to be "wrong" when most of what I do is state facts and give opinions. I think the only prediction I made so far is that Vic will eventually walk but rather late into the story.

Maybe I misremember, but I think Ocean said somewhere before that the fates of the MC and Vic are connected, and the MC will be healed when he helps Vic start walking - this is one of the possible outcomes. However, over the past five years, so much has been said, so I could be wrong.

Honestly I'm still extremely confident that my guesses for the relationships between characters pre WiAB Patreon ban were correct. I believe the stories of WiAB and SG were meant to be very closely connected and barring a surprise here and there, the connections would be rather obviousto anyone paying attention.

Lord Zane can't just become William Cyrus. It's degrading

Sadly, Ocean's course correction threw everything into disarray and right now it's very hard to say who is connected to who and how. Given Ocean's track record, I fear he will try to cook up some changes that aren't really gonna work out for me. The further he strays from his original ideas the worse this story is going to get.

Then blame his supporters too, I'm sure he shows some of them the changes he wants to make and they give him feedback. So if they are all happy I guess that's fair. It's just my guess of course.

Corrections can be good, bad, or forced. You can't do anything if you're banned from having redheads in the game in the middle of the story, otherwise you'll lose the ability to work on it at all. You'll have to make something up on the fly.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Lord Zane can't just become William Cyrus. It's degrading

No one could live with such dishonor.

Corrections can be good, bad, or forced. You can't do anything if you're banned from having redheads in the game in the middle of the story, otherwise you'll lose the ability to work on it at all. You'll have to make something up on the fly.

I'm partially with you on this point. But we have to say that Ocean took his time to "fix" (and was honest with fans about it) and then left problematic spots.

 

[Deleted member 9055468]

It shouldn't be forgotten that Aya Zane—and no one hid or concealed her, nor did she change her surname—when people with such authority could have easily done so. Why then would they have changed Niki and Nami's surnames if they were Zanes, bastards who were completely abandoned? No, that's too far-fetched.

That I didn't think of, if Ayua can walk around freely with the Zane name, why couldn't Nika and Nami.

 

[Maccabbee]

That I didn't think of, if Ayua can walk around freely with the Zane name, why couldn't Nika and Nami.

Because she's probably the legitimate daughter of Will and Miru, a Zane and his wife/gf/whatever who is also a powerful person in her own right.

If, in fact, Nika is the son of, let's say, Will and Leia (who are the only official siblings, still), that would have to be hidden. That's radioactive shit right there. Nami is not a blood sibling to Nika, they are officially only siblings because they were raised together by Noji. Nika talks about their parents as separate entities, but if he has been told fictional backstories, who knows?

 

[Crashbullet]

That I didn't think of, if Ayua can walk around freely with the Zane name, why couldn't Nika and Nami.

That's right, even if they are some kind of fruit of a wrong relationship, they would still be secretly sponsored or kept near them, possibly as adopted children. And would no one have noticed if Leia had been pregnant?
Nick Zane's theory is too far-fetched.

 

[Supreme Breeder]

I hope this is the first and last time dev goes for such a huge update and not go DPC way with each update being way bigger than previous and takes too long to create.

 

[Maccabbee]

That's right, even if they are some kind of fruit of a wrong relationship, they would still be secretly sponsored or kept near them, possibly as adopted children. And would no one have noticed if Leia had been pregnant?
Nick Zane's theory is too far-fetched.

Come on, really? All Leia would have to do is have an overhead light shine down. The shadow from her boobage would hide that pregnancy altogether. Realistically though, it could have been through surrogacy, or she could have gone underground at one of the business, lots of ways to keep her pregnancy secret.

 

[Crashbullet]

Come on, really? All Leia would have to do is have an overhead light shine down. The shadow from her boobage would hide that pregnancy altogether. Realistically though, it could have been through surrogacy, or she could have gone underground at one of the business, lots of ways to keep her pregnancy secret.

I think everyone will start suspecting anyway when Zayn opens a dairy farm.

 

[Maccabbee]

I think everyone will start suspecting anyway when Zayn opens a dairy farm.

You know, they used to sell breast milk ice cream online. There's probably more money in that than the weed business.

 

[Massagecook01]

I need to learn the Piano.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I need to learn the Piano.
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This reminds me that with season 2 there should be a Noji set coming out

 

[Jarulf]

This reminds me that with season 2 there should be a Noji set coming out

You can never have too much Noji, even with tats

 

[Dr.TSoni]

You can never have too much Noji, even with tats

Absolutely, especially like this