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SToyS

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I think his arguments are a little made in bad faith to argue that 3.5 and 4.5 were full chapters, but sure, let's consider that he has shown he can sustain a pace of 13 chapters by including the yet to be released 3 chapters and the reworked chapters too. It took him 7 years to do so.
Unfortunately, you're right, it's all hypocrisy and deception. Look at the beginning of his message, and I quote:
This is a passion project. I don't view them as customers. Otherwise, SG would already have a ton of sex scenes.

If everything were as he said, he wouldn't have reworked the game and lowered its rating to attract new Steam customers and make more money. His words don't match his actions.
 

Massagecook01

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Unfortunately, you're right, it's all hypocrisy and deception. Look at the beginning of his message, and I quote:
This is a passion project. I don't view them as customers. Otherwise, SG would already have a ton of sex scenes.

If everything were as he said, he wouldn't have reworked the game and lowered its rating to attract new Steam customers and make more money. His words don't match his actions.
I've been saying this shit for 3 years don't go by someones words go by their actions

Don't tell me you are going to do something do something then i will believe you.

Might be news for some people but there are those out there that lying is like breathing.
 
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Joan6969

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It's his baby and he can take as long as he wants. I'm OK with that and always
have been. But{yeah there's always a but right? :ROFLMAO:}he has made some statements
on the when......and when the when doesn't come.... he goes on about other things.
That's what I don't like and one of the main reasons I stop being a sub. But I do
get a laugh every time someone mentions a "when" that never comes!:LOL::whistle:
 
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miltonlucifer

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I discovered this dev and his games on f95, then purchased them on steam, then subscribed to ocean for a brief period of time.
but this thread , this very state of things, is the reason why , I always tick "completed" when I look for a game in here from now on. He's literally the guy that disgusted me from unfinished projects. tired of the alpha - pre alpha - devlog - demo - version 0.0.0.0111 bullshit, Which f95 is LITTERED with (understandably so , it's not a jab at other devs, it's just not my jam anymore ). not playing nor purchasing , until it's completed or very close to completion.

sure I have much much MUCH less choice, sure I'm missing on some bangers, but considering how I loved SG, I LOVED the art, and I loved the character building. but got frustrated with the "soon" promise, it's a slap in the face. I'm sure i'm not the only one with that mindset now.
 

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I discovered this dev and his games on f95, then purchased them on steam, then subscribed to ocean for a brief period of time.
but this thread , this very state of things, is the reason why , I always tick "completed" when I look for a game in here from now on. He's literally the guy that disgusted me from unfinished projects. tired of the alpha - pre alpha - devlog - demo - version 0.0.0.0111 bullshit, Which f95 is LITTERED with (understandably so , it's not a jab at other devs, it's just not my jam anymore ). not playing nor purchasing , until it's completed or very close to completion.

sure I have much much MUCH less choice, sure I'm missing on some bangers, but considering how I loved SG, I LOVED the art, and I loved the character building. but got frustrated with the "soon" promise, it's a slap in the face. I'm sure i'm not the only one with that mindset now.
No, those who have been here for a long time don't really care anymore, we just read those who come here like to a wailing wall and pour out how they don't like the ocean, etc. Sometimes they write funny things, but most of the time it's the same thing.
 

BigMal235

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It's always funny reading all these sh*t talks just to see them disappear at the time the update is released. If the guy was taking around a year to release a 2k renders-long update, how long did you guys think it would take him to produce 8k one? Furthermore, this time there will be some proper routing too whereas in the previous updates there were very little route-related scenes. On top of all that, the guy has dedicated his entire free time to the game development just to be kicked out of the platform that was his only regular source of outcome.

Considering all that, we will be lucky to see a new update before the end of March and guess what will happen then? All the smartpants in this thread will download it from this site, play it for free and then will wait another few months to talk about Ocean taking too long with the next update...

Does Ocean take too long to release his updates? Definitely! Are his devlogs contradicting? In some parts - yes. Will I play the next update? Yes, regardless on when it will finally be released as this game is a masterpiece in my humble opinion. So chill everyone and happy new year!
 

Joan6969

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It's always funny reading all these sh*t talks just to see them disappear at the time the update is released. If the guy was taking around a year to release a 2k renders-long update, how long did you guys think it would take him to produce 8k one? Furthermore, this time there will be some proper routing too whereas in the previous updates there were very little route-related scenes. On top of all that, the guy has dedicated his entire free time to the game development just to be kicked out of the platform that was his only regular source of outcome.

Considering all that, we will be lucky to see a new update before the end of March and guess what will happen then? All the smartpants in this thread will download it from this site, play it for free and then will wait another few months to talk about Ocean taking too long with the next update...

Does Ocean take too long to release his updates? Definitely! Are his devlogs contradicting? In some parts - yes. Will I play the next update? Yes, regardless on when it will finally be released as this game is a masterpiece in my humble opinion. So chill everyone and happy new year!
Well dude......it has been a very long time for you watching them disappear huh? :unsure: :ROFLMAO::whistle:
 

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Well dude......it has been a very long time for you watching them disappear huh? :unsure: :ROFLMAO::whistle:
You gotta forgive the little guy, last time Ocean released an actual update for this game was around the time he made his account :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

And certainly he doesn't follow Ocean's other work or he would know that the last update published was received with about 300 new pages of "sh*t talks" :LOL: Those certainly didn't disappear.
 

BigMal235

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You gotta forgive the little guy, last time Ocean released an actual update for this game was around the time he made his account :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

And certainly he doesn't follow Ocean's other work or he would know that the last update published was received with about 300 new pages of "sh*t talks" :LOL: Those certainly didn't disappear.
Yeah, 'big guy', but that was because some fellows couldn't swallow the fact that Katie is no longer related to the MC, not because of how seldom these updates are published
 
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The game's release was originally scheduled for December of last year. Then Ocean started constantly delaying the release of SG. A year has passed, and he's still pushing it back, and no one knows when it will end.
To be honest I don't think it was ever going to release in December. And I strongly believe I think he always knew that.
 

miltonlucifer

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summer's gone is the star citizen of smutVNs. minus the updates .
and I say this as a genuine enjoyer of what he produced so far it's actually my favourite vn , and my favourite renders of all smut games I've ever played ( and boy oh boy , I played a shitton of them , gallons of jizz I tell ya lmfao )

, but let's be real, no one who's at least a little bit rational believes he's gonna finish that game with ....... 50 chapters fkin 50 chapters he said on that reddit post.
if we get AT LEAST an upate once a year like Dr pinkcake we could count ourselves happy . but It didn't happen before, and I certainly don't see it happening with the state of things now and how he consistently made mistakes and deflected them .

if we're lucky and ocean pulls his head out of his arse we'll get a an abridged SG minimal viable product version in 2030 with 10 chapters. and I'm being optimistic, borderline delusional.
and what's with 8k renders. why the fuck would you need 8k renders ? what's the point ? 4k is enough and it's already top tier.
heck a lot of succesful vns are in 1080p and are selling 10 times what he sold on steam ( i believe it was Helping the Hotties which had 1080p and 4k version as payware DLC, or maybe College kings 2 if i remember correctly or both .
and those are heavy hitters.

anyway , some creatives are brilliant but need management. I see it everywhere all the time. Ocean is one of those. It's visceral, they can't help it, they're shit at planning, because the act of creation has more value than the finished product in their mind. time is irrelevant to them. they forget the purpose of what they're doing when they're creating a product that needs to be sold.
I've seen that in countless departments. Visual creators are admittedly the worst in my experience . and it's often the most talented ironically.


You let creatives run amok in a company, they bankrupt it. maybe if he hired a project manager as a consultant he could ship a complete product by 2032.
 
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