Matt2012021
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now i have those Grace Mesa and Humble Hey songs stuck in my head i would put Ocean up there with DPC when it comes to music choices
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Pepe_the_frog
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What if the real Summer was the friends we made along the way
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Renders are great but the story didn't really go anywhere with this update. If Ocean was going to go back and redo certain things. The basketball could certainly use a lot of work. Not sure what country this takes place in but I've never seen a league where hip checks are part of basketball, it isn't hockey. Also a women of average height is out there dunking a basketball? Plus a dwarf who is faster than the rest of the people playing. I know this isn't reality but perhaps watch a basketball game if you are going to put it in the story. 
The actually story is good but it seems like it will take forever before we really get to the mystery with summer, the revenge against the Holgersons, or sex in this game. Wasn't really a fan of the leaf transitions either. Hope things pick up with this game because the art is great as well as most of the characters, but it looks like it will take 15 years to complete.
The actually story is good but it seems like it will take forever before we really get to the mystery with summer, the revenge against the Holgersons, or sex in this game. Wasn't really a fan of the leaf transitions either. Hope things pick up with this game because the art is great as well as most of the characters, but it looks like it will take 15 years to complete.
In terms of soundtrack, framing and (especially) lighting, this thing is really top notch. Ocean has a cinematic standard he adheres to seemingly religiously and it really shows. Unfortunately, he might be too big of a fan of the old "show, don't tell" adage. That, to me, is the project's biggest problem.
One solution would be to have a more comprehensive 1st person narrator, in the form of the MC's internal dialogue. It's there (somewhat? Sometimes it seems to change between 1st and 3rd but I can't be sure without replaying the game and really paying attention), but it could stand to have a bigger presence. Should, really, considering how taciturn and prone to self-reflection the MC is. The main benefit to this would be curtailing scenes/moments that the MC doesn't consider all that relevant or interesting but still give the audience bullet points to what's happened. A good example would be the whole DnD session, but the applications would be manifold when it comes to reducing the amount of renders needed to complete any given scene by describing what's happened instead of showing. And it'd pair well with a character that doesn't seem to initially care for much but is attempting to open up as he goes along. Yes, it's telling instead of showing but hell, even Star Wars needed a title crawl.
Replaying the whole thing also made me aware of a number of odd turns of phrase (as if the words themselves were directly translated rather than the meaning of the expression), typos and just some really unnatural dialogue.
TL;DR- Get a writer, Ocean. It doesn't mean giving up creative control and it would help bring the text up to par with the visuals and save you time best spent on moving the plot forward so you can manage to finish this before the heat death of the universe.
One solution would be to have a more comprehensive 1st person narrator, in the form of the MC's internal dialogue. It's there (somewhat? Sometimes it seems to change between 1st and 3rd but I can't be sure without replaying the game and really paying attention), but it could stand to have a bigger presence. Should, really, considering how taciturn and prone to self-reflection the MC is. The main benefit to this would be curtailing scenes/moments that the MC doesn't consider all that relevant or interesting but still give the audience bullet points to what's happened. A good example would be the whole DnD session, but the applications would be manifold when it comes to reducing the amount of renders needed to complete any given scene by describing what's happened instead of showing. And it'd pair well with a character that doesn't seem to initially care for much but is attempting to open up as he goes along. Yes, it's telling instead of showing but hell, even Star Wars needed a title crawl.
Replaying the whole thing also made me aware of a number of odd turns of phrase (as if the words themselves were directly translated rather than the meaning of the expression), typos and just some really unnatural dialogue.
TL;DR- Get a writer, Ocean. It doesn't mean giving up creative control and it would help bring the text up to par with the visuals and save you time best spent on moving the plot forward so you can manage to finish this before the heat death of the universe.
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leo_grouch
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Nice chapter, I do think the board game, although not bad, was unnecessary. Maybe a little contest between DPC and OL to see who can portray the best fantasy board game scene, who knows.
Wondering if Summer's mother was Leia in WIAB, earrings and snake necklace and all that. Also strange that MC in WIAB has the same eye colours as Vanessa in SG.
( yeah i know i will get yelled at for saying this), It may have been better if OL did a lot more of WIAB before he continued or even started SG. The rework really, although i am sure necessary since the stories are obviously interconnected in ways, makes everyone wait even further to see the beginning of Summer's story.
As well i hope, when there is actual sexual interaction. It is done on the same level of quality as the cinematics.
Great work Ocean.
Wondering if Summer's mother was Leia in WIAB, earrings and snake necklace and all that. Also strange that MC in WIAB has the same eye colours as Vanessa in SG.
( yeah i know i will get yelled at for saying this), It may have been better if OL did a lot more of WIAB before he continued or even started SG. The rework really, although i am sure necessary since the stories are obviously interconnected in ways, makes everyone wait even further to see the beginning of Summer's story.
As well i hope, when there is actual sexual interaction. It is done on the same level of quality as the cinematics.
Great work Ocean.
Okay, so I guess I'm a little confused here. Back when this game first came out there was a little warning that said there was no sex scenes yet and to come back later. Alright fair enough I'll wait. So I came back a year later and the warning is still there, but a different image so it's not just a hold over.
Alright? Guess I'll wait a little longer.
Just downloaded the game and got a new image but same message saying there are still no sex scenes in the game. How does a game that has been in development for over 3 years not have any sex scenes. I mean A Wife and Mother is lambasted for giving blue balls but it actually has a lot of sex in it already. So how is it that this game can go three years and not have a single sex scene?
Alright? Guess I'll wait a little longer.
Just downloaded the game and got a new image but same message saying there are still no sex scenes in the game. How does a game that has been in development for over 3 years not have any sex scenes. I mean A Wife and Mother is lambasted for giving blue balls but it actually has a lot of sex in it already. So how is it that this game can go three years and not have a single sex scene?
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this game gets better with every update and Ocean should receive a lot more praises than he does
on the side notes:
Bella is most compatible girl with MC and she`s in real emotional state right now, I just hope in the next update when she will race she will come back in one piece
Nami has the best personality
Sasha and Robin are planning something
Summer might be dead, this is why MC might`ve suppresed his memories and the white roses at begining of the game might be a metaphore for her death
on the side notes:
Bella is most compatible girl with MC and she`s in real emotional state right now, I just hope in the next update when she will race she will come back in one piece
Nami has the best personality
Sasha and Robin are planning something
Summer might be dead, this is why MC might`ve suppresed his memories and the white roses at begining of the game might be a metaphore for her death
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You can't have story build up and sex scenes at the same time it seems
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It's always a question of comparing the length of it, compared to the complete update, how entertaining it was and if it managed to accomplish something.
Entertainment wise, that's pretty much up to each person themselves. Personally, I found it mildly entertaining, but not as much as it could have been considering how much of the update it took over. As for accomplishing something, it did character work, but that could have been achieved using other methods as well and ultimately where it failed for me, as it did, it seems for you, was in comparing how much of the update was spent on it, which could have arguably been used better.
I say arguably, because obviously in the end it's Oceanlab's game, so if he considers it important enough to warrant such a large chunk of the update that took 8 months to make, that's up to him.
However, in my personal opinion (which one is always allowed to have, contrary to the belief of some in this thread), I would have probably enjoyed less of it more.
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Yeah, one of the mods was messing my game up as I installed the patch before the main mod. I just redownloaded the game and it's working fine now, thanks.
This!
It's the first game I became a supporter and all because the last update was more than amazing to me. The amount of details in each frame/picture and the character interaction is amazing. I've seen good games, but the pacing for me is amazing. I love that is not pure fuck fest.
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As it stands, considering the mental state the MC is in and relationship status to potential love interests, this is indeed the case. It's not surprising at all...You can't have story build up and sex scenes at the same time it seems
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People with depression and ptsd have sex too you know. Apparently the MC can't get hard but there are pills for that.
It's a bit comical tbf. He has a dozen of nubile fertile girls jumping on his dick and he's like, Nothing personnel, thots.
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MC in the non Bella intro be like
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