Ren'Py Abandoned Summertime Saga [v0.20.16 Pre-tech] [Kompas Productions]

[crazycracks]

This dev has made more free easy money than most of you will see in your life. Yeah!! Let's keep supporting this game even though it will have the same progress whether we are subscribed or not!!

 

[NichtSmart]

Patreon and it´s consequences for indie development have been an absolute disaster for coomers.

 

[GNova]

Nop...

We love tease and troll these anti DC fools for free.
More easy to trigger them than trigger a toxic snowflake feminist about climate change.

Ahahah...


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Man... it's kinda incredible how cringe some of this posts can be, I'm amazed by it

 

[Bueno Excellente]

Any day now... just you guys wait, it will surely come out

 

[Nerro]

Its just a huge flaw with the patron model in general. It really incentivises this kind of behaviour.

In any kind of old fashioned model there would be zero chance of this happening.

Even if the dev needed to rework it for any reason, its trivial to just throw more resources at the coding and massively cut the turnaround time. As it is there's no motivation to do so as dragging it out means there is more secure long term revenue as opposed to finishing the game and starting something new with all the risks that entails.

I‘ve been preaching this for years but nobody listens. Subscription funding for game development is the most flawed funding method in gaming history. The dev literally has an economical incentive TO NOT complete games to keep the development funds flowing. They will give bullshit updates at a snail’s pace to make it look like things are progressing, and when the project finally seems to be nearing completion, they either choose to extend the game or “rework” it and the cycle repeats.

But people keep subscribing and keep being subscribed despite getting practically nothing for their money. The worst part of it; most of them don’t even know! Its such a small charge from their bank account, many subs forget they are paying money to a project that’s not going anywhere. That’s why some abandoned projects with no update for years still receive big amounts of cash each month if they didn’t close the Patreon. And with adult games being so tempting, its easy to hook people for that small charge every month they will soon forget all about.

Patreon porn-game devs really got lucky they found the largest public scam in the digital age they can utilize freely with no legal ramifications. Sometimes makes me think why I even went to school and didn’t just make a shitty porn game for a couple of years and then I’d practically be set for life with minimal to no work needed.

 

[C3rch]

^^^this. Exactly.

 

[fexacon]

Damn I wish I could run a scam this lucrative.

 

[j4yj4m]

What was the other branch for Jenny? I honestly cant remember.

Well, it's a "branch". She's got some dialog choices which suggest there should be some difference, but all that really happens ins that MC either breaks free from his handcuffs or not.

It's hard for a zebra to change it's stripes. I kind of think of it as she is who she is and DC has fought not to turn her into Roxxy (a decision I completely agree with). Jenny isn't my favorite character but I really like how she has remained true to her character and it's reflected with good story telling. However, I think you're right that there could be some more defined differences between the two routes.

I've only ever gone the dominant route with Jenny, because submissive isn't my thing. However, I really like gentle/soft femdom which I think is why I like Debbie as much as I do. The scene definitely looks more that route than straight Dom, but I don't have luxury of hearing what he has to say about it.

Yeah, the difference between her and Roxxy should really stay as it is, but I think it's fine to introduce at least one or two nicer moments at times. Her dominant branch could become a little more dominant than it's right now and when the other one gets a little more soft. At the moment she's somewhere in the middle, where neiter side is happy with it.

I'm not listening to many streams and when it comes to these things, it's all about the writing anyway. So we'll have to wait and see.

I‘ve been preaching this for years but nobody listens.

That's likely because this is pirate forum where very few people are paying in the first place?

 

[manneychin]

Sometimes I wonder If this game is the biggest scam ever done for a porn game. Or if it ever will realy get done.

Still waiting on a rework for the mc his real mom ( no need to bring up the fact that the dev changed the incest rules its all BS )

I hope will see the mc mom pregnant. Just like the sister.

Definitely the biggest scam in porn games, towering over any #2.

DC milked his paypigs of more than $2.2 million (and counting) just for the Tech Update theater.
Best part? Back in 2020 he sold them this TU as something that would take and I quote: "3 to 4 months to complete". Yada yada yada and today the TU look-busy theater is in its 38th month (DC alleged TU dev started before Feb-2021 but I'm just counting since Mar-2021 when the last normal SS release came out) and DC's latest lies let his paypigs believe the TU could be delivered before it hits 4 years of "development"... maybe.

There is only one solace in this megascam. In the future, DC's m.o. will be easier to spot because there were signs before the TU slam dunk.
People with memory might remember how release after release resuming play from older SS saves would not work despite it working in pretty much every other Ren'Py game. The reason why saves were eternally screwed turned out to be very important.

With every new SS release DC would make changes all over the code base, wasting increasingly more resources to redo things just because. Sounds familiar? He would royally justify this as Him having such artistic integrity that SS can only be told according to His latest vision.
And herein lies the ugly problem we can see in hindsight.

On one side this is NOT how any masterpiece is created. This is the m.o. of movies & TV show producers who see that an IP sells so they pile on another installment and then another and another, butchering the canon, butchering the lore in however way seems to be most profitable next, not giving a flying fuck about the fanbase, until inevitably the quality tanks so badly the IP is no longer useful to extract money from suckers. That's EXACTLY what DC did.
Just remember how quickly he dropped incest as soon as it presented any risk to his income despite incest being THE central theme of his original vision. There was no burning need for integrity there because money.
If he actually had a vision he "needed" to tell with artistic integrity SS would release in very well defined chapters, each one building upon the previous one, like DmD, LomL and countless other Ren'Py games, with no reason to break old saves.

On another side, the latest changes he made all over the code base to express his latest vision would always be of high resource cost and low artistic impact. The story threads bundled in SS up to v0.20.16 are so minimally interconnected they could easily each be their separate game. It's precisely these interconnects that would've had a chance to justify Lord Farquaad's decision to fuck with what was already delivered in every release and yet the interconnects were marginal (and sometimes just plain broken as you could progress Roxxy and Jenny enough to have Roxxy lovey dovey on her story thread and bitchy on Jenny's story thread but the story threads were poorly synchronized so events made no sense in how they unfolded).

So yeah, SS is a megascam and DC is, by far, THE biggest scammer in porn games, ever. He basically cashed in on all the good will he ever gained from putting his drawing talent to good use at a lucky time just when incest porn games exploded. As a delightful irony, he is extraordinarily similar to Trump as it takes a very special kind of invertebrate to turn trust into cash like that.

He is not done yet. He will use the latest crackdown Patreon does on consent to justify the long rollout of the TU, claiming he needs to change this and that because Patreon. Unfortunately for his paypigs, the need is real as SS might've been vanilla in terms of perversity but it contained a lot of normal non-woke sexuality which now needs to be made woke or else SS risks being banned and we already know from how DC butchered incest away that his artistic integrity doesn't mean shit if it means risking his free money.

So the Scam Saga will go on for however long it takes for his paypigs to gain some self respect and awareness that they'll never get what they hope for by pre-paying DC and trusting his word.

 

[Nerro]

Well, it's a "branch". She's got some dialog choices which suggest there should be some difference, but all that really happens ins that MC either breaks free from his handcuffs or not.

Yeah, the difference between her and Roxxy should really stay as it is, but I think it's fine to introduce at least one or two nicer moments at times. Her dominant branch could become a little more dominant than it's right now and when the other one gets a little more soft. At the moment she's somewhere in the middle, where neiter side is happy with it.

I'm not listening to many streams and when it comes to these things, it's all about the writing anyway. So we'll have to wait and see.


That's likely because this is pirate forum where very few people are paying in the first place?

I think you'd be surprised how many people here pay creators. All creators I've seen who made a poll for their subscribers, asking where they discovered the game, they almost all say they found the game from pirate sites like this.

 

[HentKingdom]

Definitely the biggest scam in porn games, towering over any #2.

DC milked his paypigs of more than $2.2 million (and counting) just for the Tech Update theater.
Best part? Back in 2020 he sold them this TU as something that would take and I quote: "3 to 4 months to complete". Yada yada yada and today the TU look-busy theater is in its 38th month (DC alleged TU dev started before Feb-2021 but I'm just counting since Mar-2021 when the last normal SS release came out) and DC's latest lies let his paypigs believe the TU could be delivered before it hits 4 years of "development"... maybe.

There is only one solace in this megascam. In the future, DC's m.o. will be easier to spot because there were signs before the TU slam dunk.
People with memory might remember how release after release resuming play from older SS saves would not work despite it working in pretty much every other Ren'Py game. The reason why saves were eternally screwed turned out to be very important.

With every new SS release DC would make changes all over the code base, wasting increasingly more resources to redo things just because. Sounds familiar? He would royally justify this as Him having such artistic integrity that SS can only be told according to His latest vision.
And herein lies the ugly problem we can see in hindsight.

On one side this is NOT how any masterpiece is created. This is the m.o. of movies & TV show producers who see that an IP sells so they pile on another installment and then another and another, butchering the canon, butchering the lore in however way seems to be most profitable next, not giving a flying fuck about the fanbase, until inevitably the quality tanks so badly the IP is no longer useful to extract money from suckers. That's EXACTLY what DC did.
Just remember how quickly he dropped incest as soon as it presented any risk to his income despite incest being THE central theme of his original vision. There was no burning need for integrity there because money.
If he actually had a vision he "needed" to tell with artistic integrity SS would release in very well defined chapters, each one building upon the previous one, like DmD, LomL and countless other Ren'Py games, with no reason to break old saves.

On another side, the latest changes he made all over the code base to express his latest vision would always be of high resource cost and low artistic impact. The story threads bundled in SS up to v0.20.16 are so minimally interconnected they could easily each be their separate game. It's precisely these interconnects that would've had a chance to justify Lord Farquaad's decision to fuck with what was already delivered in every release and yet the interconnects were marginal (and sometimes just plain broken as you could progress Roxxy and Jenny enough to have Roxxy lovey dovey on her story thread and bitchy on Jenny's story thread but the story threads were poorly synchronized so events made no sense in how they unfolded).

So yeah, SS is a megascam and DC is, by far, THE biggest scammer in porn games, ever. He basically cashed in on all the good will he ever gained from putting his drawing talent to good use at a lucky time just when incest porn games exploded. As a delightful irony, he is extraordinarily similar to Trump as it takes a very special kind of invertebrate to turn trust into cash like that.

He is not done yet. He will use the latest crackdown Patreon does on consent to justify the long rollout of the TU, claiming he needs to change this and that because Patreon. Unfortunately for his paypigs, the need is real as SS might've been vanilla in terms of perversity but it contained a lot of normal non-woke sexuality which now needs to be made woke or else SS risks being banned and we already know from how DC butchered incest away that his artistic integrity doesn't mean shit if it means risking his free money.

So the Scam Saga will go on for however long it takes for his paypigs to gain some self respect and awareness that they'll never get what they hope for by pre-paying DC and trusting his word.

I think that people just don't care. I mean what's a small donation anyway, right? But when a lot of people do this without stop, that changes things.

I never liked this whole pay for production thing in porn games. Japanese games never do this they make the game and sell it all within a year most of the time. And that's it. This counts for small game devs and big game devs.

This paying for production is almost as bad as people who buy OnlyFans.

I like this game since it started, but I often wonder where this will end. Patreon should have rules if you don't deliver in time. Then no pay check or something.

I just want to see the incest mc mom finally redone and see her preggo. This seems like a dream years of, if ever.

 

[j4yj4m]

I think you'd be surprised how many people here pay creators. All creators I've seen who made a poll for their subscribers, asking where they discovered the game, they almost all say they found the game from pirate sites like this.

For smaller and newer games that's 100% true. Once you get to a certain size, these pages matter less and less, especially if you can download the game for free from patreon or the dev himself.

You can see that with this game. Despite it having an abandoned tag, DC gained more patrons this month between may 1st to 8th than he did last month between april 1st to 8th (2318 in may vs. 1730 in april).

I mean, that's unless we'd suggest that people subscribe at a higher rate despite the tag.

 

[Count Morado]

I think you'd be surprised how many people here pay creators.

There are over 7 million registered users on F95. There are an estimated 600-700,000 subscribers to adult game developers on Patreon. Even if every single subscriber had an F95 account, that's less than 10% of all F95 registered users.

 

[Nerro]

There are over 7 million registered users on F95. There are an estimated 600-700,000 subscribers to adult game developers on Patreon. Even if every single subscriber had an F95 account, that's less than 10% of all F95 registered users.

False equivalence. Registered users does not mean active users but you are comparing it to active subscribers. At this time, there are nearly 18 k people online and if we assume, during peak hours, that number rises to around 20-30k. That's the number you should compare to active subscribers. Suddenly its not hard to imagine a lot of those 700k subs are from users here.

 

[Xupuzulla]

The good old "F95 is irrelevant" narrative,i saw this episode already

 

[Senigata]

With every new SS release DC would make changes all over the code base, wasting increasingly more resources to redo things just because. Sounds familiar? He would royally justify this as Him having such artistic integrity that SS can only be told according to His latest vision.

Are you worshipping DC as some sort of deity or why do you capitalise Him and His as if you were talking about God here?

 

[AstroMJ6969]

Are you worshipping DC as some sort of deity or why do you capitalise Him and His as if you were talking about God here?

Bro started speaking about visions

 

[siatugst]

DarkCookie is ligma.

 

[Count Morado]

False equivalence. Registered users does not mean active users but you are comparing it to active subscribers. At this time, there are nearly 18 k people online and if we assume, during peak hours, that number rises to around 20-30k. That's the number you should compare to active subscribers. Suddenly its not hard to imagine a lot of those 700k subs are from users here.

That wasn't your argument. Your argument was not that a lot of adult game Patreon subscribers are F95zone users.

Your argument was "I think you'd be surprised how many people here pay creators." Restated with proper terms: "I think you'd be surprised how many F95zone users pay creators."

Which goes back to my response.

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[GNova]

That wasn't your argument. Your argument was not that a lot of adult game Patreon subscribers are F95zone users.

Your argument was "I think you'd be surprised how many people here pay creators." Restated with proper terms: "I think you'd be surprised how many F95zone users pay creators."

Which goes back to my response.

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a question, is there even like a place that can bring new people to their patreon that isn't f95? like i know if i search summertime saga, f95 will not appear as the main search result, but if one person don't know about summertime saga at all, how would they go on their way to find about it to go support that isn't here?