- Aug 5, 2016
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@Chucked_Sandwich , his game is completely free you know. If you don't like how he works, then you can always quit on your support. I don't understand why you are so upset.
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@MWeb, the game is not free, as said before. My genuine concern is if I quit my support and so does the majority of the fan base, due to poor return on patronage, then the game will never be made.
Is the game free? so the 50K this guy earns a month, that means nothing to the continued production of the game?
Hypothetical. patreon, stops tomorrow. whats the chance that 0.19 (eve) gets released?
Why did BB stop? (a game that trends higher than this). because Patreon stopped the money (had to change the game).
Every game is free on this website, whats your actual point?
Im talking about patrons not paying money to continue the game that ends up here for free.
Is the game free? so the 50K this guy earns a month, that means nothing to the continued production of the game?
Hypothetical. patreon, stops tomorrow. whats the chance that 0.19 (eve) gets released?
Why did BB stop? (a game that trends higher than this). because Patreon stopped the money (had to change the game).
Every game is free on this website, whats your actual point?
Im talking about patrons not paying money to continue the game that ends up here for free.
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the difference between SS and BB is the dev interaction with the community. silver was a dickhead whereas dc actually have friendly interactions with his patrons and fans. DC has never demanded money EVER and the surge in his patrons is due to how friendly his dev is on top of how good the game is. does it need better management? yes. DC acknowledged this. this is not new information. if Patreon stops working I'm sure there is an alternative that dc can use. why not use an alternative now? this is because if it's not broken don't fix it. dc has lots of patrons on Patreon already, moving to an alternative will be inconvenient for the majority of his supporter because THEY have to sign up for a completely new site.
- Jun 19, 2017
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DC said so many times that he'll finish the game, no matter what - even if had to be part time again. And that said, it's pretty unlikely that he'll "ever" fall below a somewhat substainable sum of money. Sure, right now the game probably does indeed make "too much" money and something close to 30k would likely be more fitting. But that's certainly not DC's problem and nobody should feel pressured to pledge. Actually it's excatly the opposite in this case. If you like something, give a couple of bucks a year and the game will be fine and finished.
But I can certainly understand that DC wants to work on the game his way. In a small an trusted team and on his schedule. That's actually a far better way to prevent burnouts, than forcing him to grow the whole thing against his will - and that's specially true for a second artists. People just have to be patient. I'm personally pledging 20 to 25 bucks a year and thus I don't really care if he finishes the game in 2 or 4 years - as long as the content is great and as long as DC is working I have really no reason to doubt him.
But I can certainly understand that DC wants to work on the game his way. In a small an trusted team and on his schedule. That's actually a far better way to prevent burnouts, than forcing him to grow the whole thing against his will - and that's specially true for a second artists. People just have to be patient. I'm personally pledging 20 to 25 bucks a year and thus I don't really care if he finishes the game in 2 or 4 years - as long as the content is great and as long as DC is working I have really no reason to doubt him.
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Every game is not free. Their patreon leaks here. However, developer of SS release his game publicly himself.
Prove your point then, stop your support and let's see if he is gonna become like BB. (Btw, BB is abandoned because of incest content, i don't know why you are comparing them.. 2 different story)
Everyone needs money. He need to live. He has a family. Your examples are pointless.
- May 16, 2017
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so i was right the 62 additional comments since i played last month were about people crying about the release date
i have no idea why some people are doing this and not playing other games while they wait and some people think that if they stop supporting a game developer it will doom the whole game
- Apr 16, 2017
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As others have mentioned, you really need to pay attention to how developers interact with the community they create.
Adult gaming is a small niche with a few volatile actors. Some are more stable than others. DC has been stable with his growth for the most part in allowing for free updates and free communication on the platforms he chooses. BB stopping is his own thing. I think I've played one or two games of his and IIRC, the games are good but very complex undertakings with VA and everything.
If Patrons don't get their money's worth, they move elsewhere. Simple as that. But with DC specifically, he listens to the community, gives them a vote, improves on talking to them openly, and allows for discretion in how the story branches from here.
So stop thinking about hypotheticals. Focus on the reality in front of you. So long as DC communicates well, he has Patron support. Simple as that.
- Apr 16, 2017
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Dear SS fappers,
do you want to know why so many people keep complaining about release dates?
Seriously, don't you know it? can't you understand it?
Well... just take a look at the OP: August 25th 2016 (yep, check again: 2 0 1 6).
3 development Y E A R S... and the game is... 45%? 50%? 55%
So, guys, what do you think about it?
is SS an indie porn game or an artist's lifetime masterwork?
DC, dude, are you building the Great Chinese Wall? are you writing La Divina Commedia? are you joking, dude?
I'll tell you, guys: I restarted from scratch the last Diane 0.17 update 4 times because of bugs and bugfixing updates. I haven't completed it yet: I didn't complete the reworked Diane's storyline because I had enough of playing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same damn fucking scenes and reading the same damn lines every damn update. Endlessly.
Will I play the Jenny's reworked storyline (my favourite SS' character by far) when it comes out? honestly, I'm not so sure...
do you want to know why so many people keep complaining about release dates?
Seriously, don't you know it? can't you understand it?
Well... just take a look at the OP: August 25th 2016 (yep, check again: 2 0 1 6).
3 development Y E A R S... and the game is... 45%? 50%? 55%
So, guys, what do you think about it?
is SS an indie porn game or an artist's lifetime masterwork?
DC, dude, are you building the Great Chinese Wall? are you writing La Divina Commedia? are you joking, dude?
I'll tell you, guys: I restarted from scratch the last Diane 0.17 update 4 times because of bugs and bugfixing updates. I haven't completed it yet: I didn't complete the reworked Diane's storyline because I had enough of playing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same damn fucking scenes and reading the same damn lines every damn update. Endlessly.
Will I play the Jenny's reworked storyline (my favourite SS' character by far) when it comes out? honestly, I'm not so sure...
- Dec 1, 2017
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we are in the same boat..Dear SS fappers,
do you want to know why so many people keep complaining about release dates?
Seriously, don't you know it? can't you understand it?
Well... just take a look at the OP: August 25th 2016 (yep, check again: 2 0 1 6).
3 development Y E A R S... and the game is... 45%? 50%? 55%
So, guys, what do you think about it?
is SS a indie porn game or an artist's lifetime masterwork?
DC, dude, are you building the Great Chinese Wall? are you writing La Divina Commedia? are you joking, dude?
I'll tell you, guys: I restarted from scratch the last Diane 0.17 update 4 times because of bugs and bugfixing updates. I haven't completed it yet: I didn't complete the reworked Diane's storyline because I had enough of playing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over the same damn fucking scenes and reading the same damn lines every damn update. Endlessly.
Will I play the Jenny's reworked storyline (my favourite SS' character by far) when it comes out? honestly, I'm not so sure...
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If you guys don't like how long the game's been in the making, or don't like DC, are jealous of the money he's making or whatever else you can think of to complain about, move on. No point in wasting time bitching and moaning about a game you don't like by a dev who's too slow to your liking, so do the rest of us a favour and just move on.
There's plenty of 3d copy/paste games that get nearly weekly updates, with writing like they'd been written by Borat, but no bugs to speak of and a schedule that's quick enough for you guys, so go and support one of those instead.
I hope you're right. Because as you so rightly say, if they don't get their moneys worth they move elsewhere. We are arguing the same point, perhaps from different angles
The proof as they say will be in the long term pudding. Backers only take constant communication so far if the constant communication is "sorry it took so long".
What if all the patreons take that answer and move on? will the game get finished?If you guys don't like how long the game's been in the making, or don't like DC, are jealous of the money he's making or whatever else you can think of to complain about, move on. No point in wasting time bitching and moaning about a game you don't like by a dev who's too slow to your liking, so do the rest of us a favour and just move on.
There's plenty of 3d copy/paste games that get nearly weekly updates, with writing like they'd been written by Borat, but no bugs to speak of and a schedule that's quick enough for you guys, so go and support one of those instead.
Such a short sighted answer.
- Jun 21, 2017
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So is yours. It's their decision and you would be clever to not waste your time what might happen. If no one cares about DC anymore then no one will care about DC anymore.^^ Wtf he's not god, someone else will take his place and create something else that gets the same hype.
Always those speculations about stuff most of you have no impact on or you wouldn't be here.
- Jan 16, 2018
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I know I'm fine with the schedule, like the product, and like how DC does things with a level of transparency few if any other dev does and I'm a patron. I've got absolutely no clue how it's supposedly "short sighted" to point out to a couple of complainers in here, who're not patrons I'm guessing, to move onto something more suited for their requirements.
- Dec 1, 2017
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im not saying l hate DC or jealous..im just feel like the game making take more time each year..thats all..and why no one voting for save compatible?If you guys don't like how long the game's been in the making, or don't like DC, are jealous of the money he's making or whatever else you can think of to complain about, move on. No point in wasting time bitching and moaning about a game you don't like by a dev who's too slow to your liking, so do the rest of us a favour and just move on.
There's plenty of 3d copy/paste games that get nearly weekly updates, with writing like they'd been written by Borat, but no bugs to speak of and a schedule that's quick enough for you guys, so go and support one of those instead.
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Savegame compatibility is not a voting issue, and the reason for lack of it has been explained. Plus, with every new update you can download a save game that gets you right into playing the new content. And sure the updates take longer, since the game keeps getting progressively more complex, so that's a given.
- Dec 1, 2017
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hmm,DC should just ignore his patreon for a moment and do what he want,im pretty sure he want to add save compatible and some more..but because he have 50k,he need to hear his patreon..and ignore all of it
- Apr 16, 2017
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I hope you're right. Because as you so rightly say, if they don't get their moneys worth they move elsewhere. We are arguing the same point, perhaps from different angles
The proof as they say will be in the long term pudding. Backers only take constant communication so far if the constant communication is "sorry it took so long".
There's been other games that failed on this premise even though they were promising.
Once communication breaks down, it really just collapses in on itself.
I'm sure that a few people around here can bring up examples, but the collapse of two come to mind but I can't remember their names off the top of my head...
One was a slut hotel and around Update 1.6, it fell apart. It was two people making it, the programming got faulty, and it took 4 or 5 months for it to crash out. Top earner too.
The second was a monster sex farming game. Creator was on one page, the animator on another, and after a PUBLIC falling out, the animator made a second game based off the first.
Point being: Communication is key. You lose that and the failure cascade takes over from there.