Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[Ifllslonly]

So the mods removed negative reviews after the dev removed 85% of the content after 2 years? Why? Why are we all interested in being fair and impartial to a man thats spent almost a decade not finishing a point and click gooner game?

What you see as fair, I see as review bombing. If you don't like the game, make an effort to review it according to the standards of the forum.

From what i skimmed through "All the previous content is simply under review, it'll be added back quickly

So is Discord happy with this update and roadmap or not? I still don't quite get it. Why did DC turn off comments on Patreon? Are the comments back to normal now?

The rework could have been done in 2 or 3 months.
Meanwhile DC is cashing in millions, getting the yearly salary of a senior dev every fucking month!

He is a hard worker.(no)

Still, this is the craziest shit i've ever seen for a porn game

I think Saria's shitstorm was bigger for less.
I honestly don't know why some people don't like this tech update. Recent reviews seem to be positive.

 

[ladguru]

Screw this. Such a shame too was a brilliant game.

It never was a brilliant game.
It could have been a brilliant game for sure.
The art is great. The coding is the shittiest I've ever seen for any renpy game.

 

[Cesco]

Rise & shine y'all. DC rolling out a new mothafuckin' update in 2 years.

 

[naoligopraisso]

So the mods removed negative reviews after the dev removed 85% of the content after 2 years? Why? Why are we all interested in being fair and impartial to a man thats spent almost a decade not finishing a point and click gooner game?

zero surprises, the mods go hand in hand with DC in a flowery field with rainbows (not to say something more offensive and they delete it crying)

 

[BreadnNetorare]

DarkCookie Diehard fan live reaction to the "new and improved game"

 

[Dynamite20]

Thanks for the reply.
As a IT girl that coded a bit in Powershell and very little in Python, I can still think of a few reason someone would remake their whole code.

In a project that big, you have a looooot of dependancy (things that call for other things) or "tag" (name depending on the langugage) to modify a lot of entries at the same time with just a modification of that tag definition.
As a simple example for those no familiar with it (not you it seems since you said you coded a bit) : whats allow the dev and the modders to quickly change how a "mom" gets turn into a "landlady" is because everytime they are called in a dialog, it's not "mom" or "landlady" but something like "$mom" or "$momname" if we are talking about the name you choose when prompted at the beginning. You are changing the "tag" definition by your own input.

That being said, this idea can go waaayy deeper than that and when you build a code with "beginner" knowledge, it's bond to happen that years later, you have way more skills to do thing cleaner, with less bugs, clutter. A lot of time, the way you did things with partial knowledge of what you were doing can cause an impossibility to do something new, thousands of lines down in your code, and you have to rethink a whole function.

I suppose the devs hit that point with new content they wanted to add and couldn't with the way they built the game until then.
They could also just want to do a better experience overhaul with their new knowledge.
Or, they were close to finishing their project or out of new ideas to add and had to keep the money coming to live...

I don't think that it's a big project for me a big project for example would be the game Being a Dik because you have choices that leads to different outcomes you have minigames like SummertimeSaga but in my opinion more fun you have character stats you have love intrest stats your stats will determine the flow of the story some characters will give you different dialogues depending on your actions and other stuff
in this game's case you almost have the same things ,free roam, a day system, minigames but other than that it isn't that complex I didn't saw the games code but from my opinion the game has a day system a free roam system that can anyone easily watch tutorials on youtube and character interactions with choices that almost doesn't matter sure you have some characters like Jenny with submisive and dominant route and you have characters like Mia where you have to choose wich route you are going to follow but again that code isn't hard at all

And don't forget that he doesn't do incest anymore so the names that he put's are the characters names Debby, Jenny and so on not Mom Sister and Aunt so he doesn't have any reason to change their names but let's say that he wanted to do it still it's a very simple task

I agree with you maybe the devs code was messy and they wanted to make it more orginized but again it would take a week at max to finish this not 2 years I don't think that it was the code that delayded the game this much I think it's something else but at this point I can't defend the dev my thoughts are that he is milking and that's fine by me I don't pay him I get the game for free and most of us are and honestly I don't care about others paying for the game I

 

[Dragon1982]

On the one hand, DC (according to what I read some time ago) never played a porn game and originally didn't intend for this to be such, so at the time I was a little surprised. On the other hand, after working on Summertime Saga for so many years, I highly doubt he didn't try other porn games for at least some new ideas if nothing else. I'm just guessing here, but either way DC Kicked up a hornet's nest with this latest update, for better or worse. I'm merely observing the aftermath of all this, not really bothered to choose a side.

 

[Strelok00]

DarkCookie Diehard fan live reaction to the "new and improved game"
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10/10 Too much content - IGN

 

[ladguru]

He is a hard worker.

Are you fucking kidding me?
He did absolutely fucking nuffing for at least 5 years!

 

[trolololo2]

So maybe someone who is a little more knowledgeable can fill me in here. This is a Ren'py game. So what exactly is the "Tech" in the "Tech update." Obviously he has to extend a lot of the graphics to be 16:9, from what we saw in this update, that's what he did- rather than redraw the existing art. But what exactly is there that's so demanding on the coding side? Re-mask backgrounds for button presses? I mean- its Ren'py, there isn't exactly much coding. [show background] [show text] [show sprite] [update sprite]

 

[Adoringfan]

TFW your update takes away content and removes scenes

 

[ScumbagJosh]

TFW your update takes away content and removes scenes
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People waited 2 years just to pay for widescreen content from over 5 years.

 

[Dynamite20]

So maybe someone who is a little more knowledgeable can fill me in here. This is a Ren'py game. So what exactly is the "Tech" in the "Tech update." Obviously he has to extent a lot of the graphics to be 16:9, from what we saw in this update, that's what he did- rather than redraw the existing art. But what exactly is there that's so demanding on the coding side? Re-mask backgrounds for button presses? I mean- its Ren'py, there isn't exactly much coding. [show background] [show text] [show sprite] [update sprite]

I believe that the Tech update (And if I'm wrong anyone can correct me about this ) was about reworking and adding some things in the existing characters in the game for example more Grace animations and story extention and some more of Jenny's route expantion as for the coding part I only heard about it today and I don't think that this is why the game was delayed I think that it was something else but that's my opinion

 

[1q1q1q1q1q1q1q1q]

I wonder if that "Abandoned" tag is what kicked DC in the ass enough to release something, even if it was just a little bit. Which if he'd been doing that at all the past two years then there would have been much less complaining.

 

[naoligopraisso]

I've never written any review on any game on this site, no matter how good or bad it was, even the great awam that also has a scammer as its creator, but I think this will be the exception, this game is so rotten that it shouldn't even have lost the abandoned tag, should have gained a new "back to the past" tag.

 

[ttsopel]

Dev just stalled and made an "update" to avoid the "Game Abandoned" tag to continue scamming the Patrons. It's the same reasoning as people who buy e-girls' bathwater...

Wow. What a shame. This was like one of my top 10 games on this site. Whenever I expect a game to be amazing, something happens to it. Every fucking time. Big brother, dual family, milfy city, the tyrant, and now this.
At this rate, I should just make a game myself.

 

[Dynamite20]

I wonder if that "Abandoned" tag is what kicked DC in the ass enough to release something, even if it was just a little bit. Which if he'd been doing that at all the past two years then there would have been much less complaining.

Not at all in his Patreon page he has 86K followers in wich the 29K are paid members each month he post something on his Patreon and he even have a discord that's active his followers on his page and discord know that the game isn't abandoned and he has his own community so I don't think that he would care about a forum that have his game abandoned I think that his supporters presured him to release the update because two years without an update I think it's a long time

 

[andresix]

¿3 años para esto? Dios mío XD rip para los que donaron ☠ ☠ DC es indefendible. Every 2 months its will update, BRO how shameless

 

[Sscdrake]

I was joking to myself that a nothingburger update is probably around the corner and here we are lmao.

What you see as fair, I see as review bombing. If you don't like the game, make an effort to review it according to the standards of the forum.

So is Discord happy with this update and roadmap or not? I still don't quite get it. Why did DC turn off comments on Patreon? Are the comments back to normal now?

He is a hard worker.

I think Saria's shitstorm was bigger for less.
I honestly don't know why some people don't like this tech update. Recent reviews seem to be positive.
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And the blindfold defenders rush out sprinting and waving their hands yet again... well, people have faithfully followed and allowed far far worse throughout history, so why am I shocked.

Recent reviews are positive probably because anyone with anything negative to say said it, and the mods here don't let you talk about stuff like this in reviews.

And even though I think the dev is a moraless abuser of patreon that knows exactly what he is doing and why it is wrong, it is nonetheless still true that the game is fairly great. That is in fact mostly why the situation is so sad. But you can't talk about any surrounding context about a game in a review here without having screeching mods descend like chaos space marines, so of course the reviews will be positive, especially if you're new to the game (which most of those recent reviewers seem to be).

Eventually they will end up like us, get to the end of the content and steadily watch these "updates every two months" degrade into minor grammar fixes and vague "touch ups" to preexisting art that people can't tell the difference on, but won't be able to comment about it in reviews either.

That being said, this has gotten far beyond beating a dead horse. The horse has long become dust. The dev won no matter what, he's probably a multi millionaire by now judging by the game's estimated yearly earnings (if he doesn't pay out helpers/staff) by basically only putting in a good initial effort.

That's something a lot of people would have been tempted by so eh.

 

[naoligopraisso]

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