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King Monkey Mon

The Perverted King of The Harem Masters
May 16, 2017
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I feel like, in DC's shoes, you don't know what to do on your first game round. You also don't expect it to have last THIS long and to have gained THIS much of a following for it to even matter. Second or third game I feel is when you can properly expect the lack of fuck ups to be far more prevalent in the content.
if this his first game then he struck gold due to how popular this game is and the amount of content it has not having compatible saves is just a small problem in his game
 

DrFog

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Sep 18, 2018
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I feel like, in DC's shoes, you don't know what to do on your first game round. You also don't expect it to have last THIS long and to have gained THIS much of a following for it to even matter. Second or third game I feel is when you can properly expect the lack of fuck ups to be far more prevalent in the content.
Same thing happened to Notch. When Minecraft took off a bunch of other devs came on and were just set to work undoing layer after layer of Notch's terrible n00b code.
 

Morah SDG

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if this his first game then he struck gold due to how popular this game is and the amount of content it has not having compatible saves is just a small problem in his game
I'd akin it to literally striking gold veins in your backyard and people criticizing you that you didn't have the proper mining gear to get started with or that you didn't properly survey the land first. This game is officially a substantial business. I'd be surprised if DC ever intended this game to have this much flack.
 

j4yj4m

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Jun 19, 2017
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if this his first game then he struck gold due to how popular this game is and the amount of content it has not having compatible saves is just a small problem in his game
He's quite an experienced artist who worked in the gaming/animation industry for about 10 years and who got fed up with it. SS was his way of teaching himself coding a bit better while getting to know renpy and it somehow became popular. It was never supposed to be a game in the first place, hence the early art, code, etc. was pretty bad/average at best.
 

King Monkey Mon

The Perverted King of The Harem Masters
May 16, 2017
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I'd akin it to literally striking gold veins in your backyard and people criticizing you that you didn't have the proper mining gear to get started with or that you didn't properly survey the land first. This game is officially a substantial business. I'd be surprised if DC ever intended this game to have this much flack.
its the internet people will find anything to complain about
He's quite an experienced artist who worked in the gaming/animation industry for about 10 years and who got fed up with it. SS was his way of teaching himself coding a bit better while getting to know renpy and it somehow became popular. It was never supposed to be a game in the first place, hence the early art, code, etc. was pretty bad/average at best.
damn i never knew that about him thats pretty cool
 

Cybuster

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Sep 28, 2017
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Are there people currently working on an incest patch? If not maybe we should wait until 0.20 for the main story.
 

Johnny-Doe

Lola's Daddy™︎
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im glad i didnt played summertime saga game when it was last updated :D
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im honesty surprised how many of my fellow pirates are crying and making useless comments about what they knew was going to happen once they updated their game files you know that saves arent compatible with new versions

so why update the game file if you dont want to lose your progress you can just use the cookie jar if you want to look at the scenes that is the reason it was created for
Who dares wake me from my slumber?!
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Yogi8156

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May 23, 2018
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So any idea when we maybe have a work save game function cross updates without starting over. Or maybe instead do a story mode and free play mode or sort of sorta getting bored on starting over there fore I don't play the game as often as I use to
 

Hero1

"I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time."
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Sep 20, 2017
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I honestly can't understand why so many people keep crying about the save file compatibility. It was explained over and over again that in order to make the savegames compatible, the code of several already existing stories has to be reworked. After 0.18 (Jenny) only Erik's story seems to be left and everytime it has been up in the polls it didn't win, which means the majority of Patrons don't care about it. And since they are the ones giving DarkCookie money he listens to them.
Yeah, you could argue if he should put it up to vote at all or just do it, but it's his game so he gets to decide how to proceed.

And all those people complaining "I have to do everything from the start with each update" don't seem to read the full announcements, because DarkCookie and his team started providing a save file with which you can play the new content without replaying the old one:
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Kinda like a lot of other creators do when they change so much in their games that old saves lose compatibility. In my opinion a fine compromise until the last of the old code is reworked.
 

Gin Tama

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I really like this game BUT my only gripe is that old saves aren't compatible every time there's a new version out. :cautious:
 
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dragonarial

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I started playing the new version, but I got error after mistake when I changed from one place to another, and instead of seeing the original scene I got the school hallway but with dialogs in progress, does anyone know what's going on? I had never gotten so many mistakes at the time of playing, in some cases I only give IGNORE, but keep coming out, help please. :cry::cry::eek::eek:
 

Shane2

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i'd gladly play from the start any Major update to any of the Top Tier games..

only

i don't waste bytes on that Major update..

i wait for the 'bugfix' update to said Major update before downloading

and read the forums meanwhile

Merry Xmas f95zoners
 

pablo_max

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I honestly can't understand why so many people keep crying about the save file compatibility. It was explained over and over again that in order to make the savegames compatible, the code of several already existing stories has to be reworked. After 0.18 (Jenny) only Erik's story seems to be left and everytime it has been up in the polls it didn't win, which means the majority of Patrons don't care about it. And since they are the ones giving DarkCookie money he listens to them.
Yeah, you could argue if he should put it up to vote at all or just do it, but it's his game so he gets to decide how to proceed.

And all those people complaining "I have to do everything from the start with each update" don't seem to read the full announcements, because DarkCookie and his team started providing a save file with which you can play the new content without replaying the old one:

Kinda like a lot of other creators do when they change so much in their games that old saves lose compatibility. In my opinion a fine compromise until the last of the old code is reworked.
I think that it is actually a pretty valid complaint. Especially if you are giving money. If not, then.. its free so.. you get what you pay for and all that.
For a major update, sure I can understand that making the saves compatible would be too much of a pain to bother with, but for a small update? Bug fixes? How much can the structure really change that you need to completely re-do everything.
I really like SS, but the save file issue is why for must people, it's only worth playing every couple major releases.
Yes, there are save files, but that is not the same as being able to start where you left off, which, I admit.. is actually kinda annoying.
It seems also like a lot of people take issue with someone having a negative opinion of something they didnt pay for. Of course they have a right to an opinion. Everyone does.
That doesnt mean anyone will listen to them or care, but don't act like you are the only person who is allowed to have an opinion.
 

DrFog

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What I don't understand is why people feel the need to redo everything in the game each update. It took me all of like 5 minutes to reach the beginning of Diane's content and then another like 20 minutes to finish it. Why the fuck do you need a compatible save for that?
 
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