KebabRemoveUnit

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I'm really salty about the incest too but it's not like it's DC's fault, it's patreon playing the taste police.
As you see i am not mentioned DC personally, but some of his newer "fans". Game is great even in current state, but i don't think team seriously considered all the options back then, and keep tracking them now. Look at Animo. He takes all the risk and PayPal cartel still dreaming about destroying SubStar and other Patreon alternatives, but he seems doing great. DC team choose the safe way, which is my main complain about any creator since last year purges. Not saying they are collaborationists, but have doubts about SS future.
 

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number of patreons doubled in that time from ~8000 to more than 16.000 .
Quantity over quality. Not against almost any kind of fetishes, implemented (and planned) in SS, but it's not ordinary "Meet'n'fuck" game. If all cuck fans migrated to SS (just because its miles ahead in quality, comparing to their shitty vn's) and start whining about "not enough cuck scenes" - does it mean DC must redraw whole game to please their fetish just because of their 1$ per month? Thats not how any decent creator works. Vision, and then money, not vica versa.
 
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As you see i am not mentioned DC personally, but some of his newer "fans". Game is great even in current state, but i don't think team seriously considered all the options back then, and keep tracking them now. Look at Animo. He takes all the risk and PayPal cartel still dreaming about destroying SubStar and other Patreon alternatives, but he seems doing great. DC team choose the safe way, which is my main complain about any creator since last year purges. Not saying they are collaborationists, but have doubts about SS future.
Honestly DC throwing his lot with patreon only is an awful idea, what will he do if they suddenly ban porn at large ? because we know they are already very much against it, they already said patreon wasn't a plateform for porn (you're a fucking middleman, patreon, not a plateform, don't get too big for your breeches).

Nothing say he'll be able to reform a community of backers in a reasonable time frame if he jump to another site only after Patreon 100% kicked him out, it's not even like you can only be on one backing site at a time, he has no reason to not have a subcribe star or something like that in addition to the patreon.

Also yup for the cuck thing, i'v already seen a game or two get turned into cuckshit nonsense because an influx 1 dollar patreon who kept whinning and skewing the polls after they were modified to include what they wanted, result was that the game's community at large dropped them and their patreon stopped growing.

Don't throw your old fanbase under the bus cause you've had an influx of casuals, the old fanbase is the only reason the casuals noticed you to begin with.
 
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Quantity over quality. Not against almost any kind of fetishes, implemented (and planned) in SS, but it's not ordinary "Meet'n'fuck" game. If all cuck fans migrated to SS (just because its miles ahead in quality, comparing to their shitty vn's) and start whining about "not enough cuck scenes" - does it mean DC must redraw whole game to please their fetish just because of their 1$ per month? Thats not how any decent creator works. Vision, and then money, not vica versa.
Well, the incest will be back once the game is done, so I don't see how that would influence DC's vision for the final release, which in the end is what matters. Unlike some other games like DmD, BigBrother etc. SS was never meant to be an incest game in the first place. Yes, incest played a role, but in the end it was always just as much - if not more - about the school girls etc. So there's no need to create a strawman. The game really wouldn't be that much different from what it is now if the incest ban hadn't happened. Sure, they'd call each other different names but that's probably about it.
 

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But it happens to be (and reason why SS becomes a big thing), just look at change log.
So, i can't agree with you. Family story and incest were a core feautures, other girls and their stories are much needed flavour addition.
But then you are contradicting yourself. In DC's vision it's not an incest game and the schoolgirls were always meant to play the bigger part. If anything, the exact thing you criticized happened and patreons voted for too many family charcters in the past.
 
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KebabRemoveUnit

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schoolgirls were always meant to play the bigger part.
Not exactly. Quoting DC in 2017
"There’s so many at this point that I’m going to say the game revolves primarily around milfs, school girls and incest. A large portion of fetishes also comes from polls I make during or after streams. The fans dictate a lot of the content and types of fetishes that end up in the game." So, yeah, you partially get me at this point. Not good for me if community joins to Patreon and "dictate" to remove all incest.
 
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Not good for me if community joins to Patreon and "dictate" to remove all incest.
But that's really not what happeny and nobody wanted to see the incest gone. Patreon banned the incest because payment providers like Paypal/Stripe forced them to do so and thus DC had to remove it. Neither the community nor DC agree with that, but we all have to live with it for now. We may argue if patreon could be replaced by other means but currently DC doesn't seem willing to take those risks and doesn't seem to think that any alternatives are viable.

Else it's certainly true that the game was always meant to be about basically fucking the whole town in one way or the other. What I meant by schoolgirls get the "bigger part" is basically, that there are 6 to 7 main characters schoolgirls, namely Roxxy, Mia, Eve, Annie, Juidth, Ronda and maybe June, while there are only 3 family members and some related side incest like Mrs. Johnson/Eric etc. Given that each main girl will very likely get roughly the same amount of content in the end and including all those side characters, only 20 to 30 percent of the final game will be about incest. But sure, it's an important part of the game, one can't deny that.
 
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