j4yj4m

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It's what you call "The Patreon effect", when a dev starts making lots of money, they magically slow down updates. I've seen it, devs making only 100 bucks get monthly updates, then they start making 1k and the updates come out less and less.
Well, in many cases it makes sense. At first frequent updates are the most important thing, so people get to know the game and thus many devs sacrifice quality/depth/etc. to push as many and as regular updates as possible to create a name for themselves. I've even seen games with bi-weekly schedules and really small updates. But once there's a base it can make sense to adjust that schedule, so it actually helps the game. Some games do well with small, monthly updates but for SS that really wasn't the case.

Last but not least it's indeed true that, depending on the game, bug testing etc. gets a lot more complicated once the game grows. Sure, if you've got a 100% linear story that isn't an issue but as soon as there's choice you'll have retest content again and again. Especially in SS most bugs/locks in the past happened in old content.
 
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If i was making $51,378 a month i'd drag the development our for years as well.

Patreon is for the most part a giant scam, devs have no incentive at all to release a game in a timely manner and there are 0 repercussions for just sitting back and watching the money roll in till eventually people lose interest and then go and do it all again.

Just do what i do, don't expect a game to be finished and you won't be disappointed.
Truth but I dont mind so long as they keep regularly updating the game and just keep endlessly adding on more and more content until you have a ridiculously huge game with 20 gigs worth of scenes ten years from now.
 
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speedynl

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din't pay any attention to the game for a long time, just 1 question, can mc fuck eve already ?, its the only girl i wanted to fuck for a long time
 

Jackie123

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It Kind of sucks tbh that every Update Takes so long but they are not some Crazy Ass Game Producers like sony santa Monica Studios and so and they also dont have Studio with highclass equipment theyre are just a few people and DC is doing the Art all by himself which also Takes longer in the Update procces. We have also just a Couple of Werks infront of us the Update is going to Come Around like April 15-23rd so just be Patient.
Making 51k a month but still takes then 6 months to create an update that is only around an hour of gameplay

If I was a willing pateron of theirs I'd probably kill myself for being such a pathetic loser
 

401Grem

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Making 51k a month but still takes then 6 months to create an update that is only around an hour of gameplay

If I was a willing pateron of theirs I'd probably kill myself for being such a pathetic loser
Hmm, yet they are not here complaining? Besides, it"s only been 3 months
 

jamdan

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The only complaint I have on this game is you have to restart with each new update. I dont mind longer update times, I replay VN games all the time but I dont really want to redo a free-roaming game every month or two to get the new stuff.
 

srksrk 68

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Making 51k a month but still takes then 6 months to create an update that is only around an hour of gameplay

If I was a willing pateron of theirs I'd probably kill myself for being such a pathetic loser
That's by far the most stupid comment I've read on that topic.

Just a hint: the game is for free. You don't even have to feel guilty for not paying them because the game is for free. And just in case you missed it the first two times: the game is for free.
 

Badjourasmix

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That's by far the most stupid comment I've read on that topic.

Just a hint: the game is for free. You don't even have to feel guilty for not paying them because the game is for free. And just in case you missed it the first two times: the game is for free.
I know right? If you're not even supporting the project you have no right to complain
 
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Porn_Jesus

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Making 51k a month but still takes then 6 months to create an update that is only around an hour of gameplay

If I was a willing pateron of theirs I'd probably kill myself for being such a pathetic loser
I'm sure they love you too but keep it to themselves.
 

Oriandu

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I know right? If you're not even supporting the project you have no right to complain
Actually you have plenty of right to complain. You don't lose the right to complain about something just because you're not willing to pay for it. That's not how rights work. Fact of the matter is that most of us live in countries that provide constitutional protection to our right to say whatever it is we want to say, though not necessarily the protection from the repercussions of what we say. So it's well within the rights of anyone who plays Summertime Saga to complain about how long it takes for them to pump out updates when the project is puling in half a million dollars a year before taxes. However at no point does their opinion have to be taken seriously or listened to because of said not paying into the patreon.
 
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seraphimd2

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shit is way far yet and people are already shitslinging each other?holy fuck man...way too soon to begin that shit man,it aint even the time for hyping yet,unless you want to break your f5(or your mind)with 2 months of antecedence...
 
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Badjourasmix

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Actually you have plenty of right to complain. You don't lose the right to complain about something just because you're not willing to pay for it. That's not how rights work. Fact of the matter is that most of us live in countries that provide constitutional protection to our right to say whatever it is we want to say, though not necessarily the protection from the repercussions of what we say. So it's well within the rights of anyone who plays Summertime Saga to complain about how long it takes for them to pump out updates when the project is puling in half a million dollars a year before taxes. However at no point does their opinion have to be taken seriously or listened to because of said not paying into the patreon.
I bet you're really fun at parties
 

seraphimd2

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I bet you're really fun at parties
It all depends on your perspective of fun or parties there,but i can't really condemn any of you guys behaviour,complaining its a right given to us by the free speech,but i cant help but agree that it doesnt matter how much people try to talk(or badmouth)about their profit and their way of doing things,after all if they didnt change it before,it will not be now they will do something about it,so suck it up people and try to stick functional criticism or game related discussion or personal insight about the GAME itself,otherwise you can end up bringing the attention of the moderators and the last thing we need is people getting victim complex about the moderators way of maintaing the thread...

P.S:just to add,@Badjourasmix ,even if i marked you,the text is mainly directed about the people complaining,i tagged you to answer your comment before in my multi-posting but all the tags seemed to vanish,so i think my bar is bugging again
 
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