Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

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rockd said:
It still doesn't make sense to me why they do not use place holders for the pictures and animations to use for coding and bug fixing. This project clearly needs better management and some kind of deadlines. Imo people need a little bit of pressure to work constantly and effeciently.
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I'd say their point is that it doesn't matter when it comes to the overall schedule. DC isn't really involved in coding, posing etc. and as long as DC needs, let's say, 4 to 5 years to draw the art for the game, it doesn't really matter what happens in the meantime - the game will need 4 to 5 years to be finished. So in some way working with placeholders, optimising animation schedules, hiring more coding staff etc. are comfort features which do not really benefit the development of the game as a whole (at all) but are solely there to appease impatient players. So it would indeed look better if they'd optimize their pre release schedule but that's about all that would change. The question remains, if it's worth spending money on that. After all, we won't get the finished game earlier...
 
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JKH18 said:
Go outside, get a girlfriend, or just strap on a pair
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If people did that then DC would lose all patrons. Lmao!

j4yj4m said:
I'd say their point is that it doesn't matter when it comes to the overall schedule. DC isn't really involved in coding, posing etc. and as long as DC needs, let's say, 4 to 5 years to draw the art for the game, it doesn't really matter what happens in the meantime - the game will need 4 to 5 years to be finished. So in some way working with placeholders, optimising animation schedules, hiring more coding staff etc. are comfort features which do not really benefit the development of the game as a whole (at all) but are solely there to appease impatient players. So it would indeed look better if they'd optimize their pre release schedule but that's about all that would change. The question remains, if it's worth spending money on that. After all, we won't get the finished game earlier...
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But art is never the bottleneck. Every release has the art being finished weeks before everything else.
 
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zeppelin said:
But art is never the bottleneck. Every release has the art being finished weeks before everything else.
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That's only if you look at it update by update. If you look at the overall schedule, art is the absolute bottleneck. He can hire more coders, posers, animators, managers etc. but they'll obviously can't release an update faster than DC is able to produce the art. It's important to see that DC is working, all the time. Right now the art for 18.5 is already done and he's working on 0.19. So it's not like "we" are losing anything by animations/coding/posing/bugfixing lasting some weeks more. All of that doesn't change the big schedule one bit.

Some people seem to assume that he's doing nothing in those weeks between finishing the art and the release of that update...
 
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j4yj4m said:
That's only if you look at it update by update. If you look at the overall schedule, art is the absolute bottleneck.
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I have no fucking clue what you mean by this. He works faster than his programmers is my point. I mean, fucking hell, he usually works on the next update halfway through the current update and still gets shit done faster like 3 weeks before his imbecile coders manage to set up his Ren'py VN.
 
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zeppelin said:
I have no fucking clue what you mean by this. He works faster than his programmers is my point. I mean, fucking hell, he usually works on the next update halfway through the current update and still gets shit done faster like 3 weeks before his imbecile coders manage to set up his Ren'py VN.
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Then you should maybe take some time to think it through?
If he had the best coders and they'd finish the day he'd finish the art, all you'd ever save are those 3 weeks. Once. After that we'd be on this same schedule again.

And I kind of refuse to believe that some people can go this nuts about 2 to 3 weeks.
 
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Whats the point of releasing now and then add more jenny scenes in 18.5 shortly after? Double the work that comes with a software release.
 
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f95zone said:
Whats the point of releasing now and then add more jenny scenes in 18.5 shortly after? Double the work that comes with a software release.
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Well, imagine what would happen if DC would delay the update by another 2 to 3 weeks to include those scenes into 0.18. It wouldn't be pretty. I'd say that's the only reason why we'll get two updates instead of one.
 
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I don't know why but seen this post remind me of an video I saw long time ago :

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The guy is explaining how to do abriged series. At the end of the video (the sequence I choose in the link), he explain that after getting to celebrity, it's "time to get lazy" because the abridger won't be able to fullfill expectation.

The context here is different in many way (DC is paid and the Abridger isn't, the amount of work isn't the same, ...) but the sociale climate remind me of the one surround this abrigder ...
 
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polom said:
I don't know why but seen this post remind me of an video I saw long time ago :

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The guy is explaining how to do abriged series. At the end of the video (the sequence I choose in the link), he explain that after getting to celebrity, it's "time to get lazy" because the abridger won't be able to fullfill expectation.

The context here is different in many way (DC is paid and the Abridger isn't, the amount of work isn't the same, ...) but the sociale climate remind me of the one surround this abrigder ...
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Please don’t me you think LK is being serious in this video.
 
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