TK8000

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Jul 9, 2017
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Ren'Py. If you change, add, remove variables...you break saves. (there's likely more to it, but simplest explanation)

Most Devs try to avoid this with Ren'Py...others just charge ahead...saves be damned.
Not true.

You can declare variables as "default" in Renpy. These variables work independently of your save and are read every time the game restarts. If you don't radically change the structure of the game, you can keep the saves working from the tech demo to the final version.

The point is: Renpy is a project that has existed for more than a decade and its evolution has been influenced by thousands of amateur and professional devs. The issue of saves working is not only a convenience for the players, it is an essential tool for the developer. Without saves that work between versions, you basically can't test your game.

When you as a developer decide to "improve" an engine to make your game possible, the first thing you need to do is: get to know the engine deeply. Otherwise, your improvements will destroy more than a decade of work and solutions that were found in 2005 and that were appreciated by countless devs, are suddenly undone and you start going through bad times...
 

McSlut

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Aug 12, 2018
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I don't suppose you could change your name to "JohnsonIsMyBride" so we can get save compatibility next..?
i wanted the next on to be MiaIsMyButtSlut but i didn't expect ronda to win this quickly lmao. might go for JudithIsMyHamburger to show support for all my judith bros.

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she actually dropped one percent. should we be worried? 100 votes isn't a lot!
 

tjmav

Newbie
Jan 14, 2018
61
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i just saw that it's only three options (and not even one of them is eric/mrs johnson?!) so it's not that much of a surprise that ronda is winning. i mean it's still a surprise because i definitely thought between those three annie and judith are more popular. this made my day honestly, hope she really wins this. would be cool if someone could update us on how the vote is going. i kinda feel sorry for judith fans, you guys are getting cucked again.
I think the people voting for Rhonda story are actually voting for the lifeguard. I know there has been a bunch of chat about her on the streams so maybe that why Rhonda is pulling away. Kinda shocked that Annie is polling so low I was sure she would take this one easily.
 

Laziness

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Feb 14, 2018
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I think the people voting for Rhonda story are actually voting for the lifeguard. I know there has been a bunch of chat about her on the streams so maybe that why Rhonda is pulling away. Kinda shocked that Annie is polling so low I was sure she would take this one easily.
I thought so too. Still burned my two votes on her lol.
 

Sural Argonus

Chimpanor Productions
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May 12, 2017
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Not true.

You can declare variables as "default" in Renpy. These variables work independently of your save and are read every time the game restarts. If you don't radically change the structure of the game, you can keep the saves working from the tech demo to the final version.

The point is: Renpy is a project that has existed for more than a decade and its evolution has been influenced by thousands of amateur and professional devs. The issue of saves working is not only a convenience for the players, it is an essential tool for the developer. Without saves that work between versions, you basically can't test your game.

When you as a developer decide to "improve" an engine to make your game possible, the first thing you need to do is: get to know the engine deeply. Otherwise, your improvements will destroy more than a decade of work and solutions that were found in 2005 and that were appreciated by countless devs, are suddenly undone and you start going through bad times...
There is a LOT more to these save issues.

However every time I have seen it...and the types of errors I see in SS...points to variable change along with DC's co stant modifying of the engine.

Ren'Py is good...but can be very flakey.

The error I got when trying to load my save from 18 into 18.1 was clearly a variable change of some sort. It freaked out because DV changed something with pregnancy variable.
 

BumBum

New Member
Apr 28, 2017
7
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Im having trouble getting on Pink Channel, i have access to sisters pc, but it still tells me that i should look in her pc for the password...
 

Pif paf

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Feb 5, 2018
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Alright my dudes. Need you test it out and see if it works.(It works)

Rollback + mouse wheel:
1) Open your SummertimeSaga-0.16.1-pc folder.
2) Extract the attached zip contents on there.
3) Confirm any overwrite.
4) Launch game.

If it works please quote this post and tell me that it does work. If it gives you an error please post it.
It works.
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Fix for unren thanks to @booom313 :
1) Extract rpa.
2) Decompile rpyc.
3) Launch game and get error.
4) Go to \game\scripts and delete the minigames and locations folder.
5) Launch the game.
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Is it working with latest version?
 

GoriIIa

Newbie
Jun 1, 2018
16
7
I thought so too. Still burned my two votes on her lol.
Man imagine Judith's mom ! She is one mighty thicc woman in this game dude and there is maid ( she is fine too ) . Annie was meh ( for me )and also we have seen her Mom (she was fine ) but still Judith was better option for this !I will wait for judith update for 2 years again i guess lol
 

Pif paf

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Feb 5, 2018
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There is a LOT more to these save issues.

However every time I have seen it...and the types of errors I see in SS...points to variable change along with DC's co stant modifying of the engine.

Ren'Py is good...but can be very flakey.

The error I got when trying to load my save from 18 into 18.1 was clearly a variable change of some sort. It freaked out because DV changed something with pregnancy variable.
Och, great..., so I don't have to ask myself if my saves from bug v 0.18 will work for me here...:(
 

Jonboy80

Active Member
Dec 8, 2017
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Wasn't save compatibility tied more to how the game progressed and older content being changed.

I don't think it's as simple as just changing a variable to allow it.

For example, the latest update really changed Jenny stuff. Now, if you had an old save where you had completed Jenny's content but it affected other stuff, wouldn't that break the game?
 

JAmesbond234

Member
Jul 2, 2017
225
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okay, so I got jenny Pregnant and she just gave birth so I went home and opened her laptop and everything went black?
 

lynxace07

Newbie
Apr 4, 2018
32
4
Guys just want to ask a help, im in the part where Roxy ask MC to ask Jenny to teach her but problem when i go to jenny every morning MC keeps saying need some help even we already have the $ 500
 
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