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Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]
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- Feb 4, 2017
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I was thinking the same. I think he'll troll us good but final version will have maybe trap and non trap Eve.
does this game have a gallery ? if yes does anybody have a full save remember playing this game but don't want to grind everything.
- Jun 16, 2017
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- Jun 21, 2017
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Yes, but he didn't say that.
If he'd said "a full save for 0.18.6", I wouldn't have said anything.
Yay, technicalities.
Still, it's a little dismaying that someone can't find the two and a half hours needed to grind the stats again.
Rapping? Easy.
Muay Thai? Easy.
Strength? Easy.
Intelligence or whatever the maze gives you? Too fricking easy.
Grades? Pah. You barely even have to try for these.
Getting money? Please.
Pretty sure I'm forgetting one.
Not that those two and a half hours would have to be all at once, mind you and that's just for the stats and not for any content.
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- Sep 15, 2017
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I actually like the progression process, the only thing that would make it better is the reaction of npcs to your progress. Like how everyone viewed you as a wimpy loser before working out and getting that cash, after that they still view you as a wimpy loser. A little attention to details would make a ton of difference. For example, Roxxy sees you and says "Eww, don't talk to me loser" after you max out your attributes, get the fastest car, buy that house and get that bank roll. You approach her again and she says "Wow, you look different, good actually, umm don't take this as a compliment, you're still a loser. But, damn!" Something like that. To make all the work worth it. The same way, Diane reacts after you max out strength, lift your shirt up. You max out intelligence, the science teacher doesn't look at you like a retard any longer. I think it's doable on Darkcookie's part since there isn't any extra art to do, just extra text/sentences to work with.
It's no extra art but it's a lot of extra coding. You'd have to go through every character interaction and set variables for stats and I'd imagine that's A LOT more work than either of us realize. Nothing is ever as easy as it seems like it should be in game development
- Sep 15, 2017
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So, your point is? To not make it happen because, it way too much work and it's hard? No one is disputing that, no shit it would be more work, but not hard to do. Especially, if you have 50k per month backing you.
But why would they put that much work into what YOU want them to do with the game when they've got 50k worth of patreon supporters who haven't voted for that? Who are you to dictate the direction of the game? If you're a Patron, you should suggest that on the Patreon page. Otherwise, what possible motive could anyone possibly have for acquiescing to your demands on a pirate forum?
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that it's totally cool for us to sit around here and shoot the shit about what we'd like to see, but when you get all "pff, it's not that hard and you're making all this money so just do what I say" you're crossing the line. I like your idea, I really do, I just think we should maybe be a little more careful how we word things around here if we're not supporting the game monetarily.
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Yes, it isn't hard because, that's what they've been doing all this time, coding and re-coding. And coding a couple of lines isn't hard because, they've done this before a ton. Again, like I said, I wasn't disputing the work load, no shit it would be a ton of work, but, the difficulty/hardness of coding it isn't an issue because, they've done it over and over again. Why are you here then? The purpose of this forum is to talk about the game and what would be beneficial into improving it among fans, supporter or not. There are no ground rules we should adhere by here. Why should I or the rest of the people here talking facts take our marching orders from you on what is allowed to be talked about and what is not? Why should I step on eggs shells around here? People are allowed and should be allowed to voice their opinions here. Who are you to censor people? And why are you butt hurt on behalf of DarkCookie? Why are you white-knighting a man 50k a month richer than you? Coming from you, this is a "pirate" site, these kind of talks and speculations are what you are gonna find in this forum. You should know that by now. I find it ridiculous that you're offended over somebody else and that somebody else had nothing to do with you.
Speak for yourself, you seem to be the only one who thinks this. You seem to be satisfied by unfinished products and mediocrity. I am not. I care about a conclusion. I want this game to be better and complete. I want the amount he gets on patreon to reflect what this game should be. A 50k a month game.
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- Jan 15, 2019
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You can see DC stream 10/12hours per weeks (You can see him draw a lot, but it's not the most productiv method), he works 3x this time every week, he managed the schedule with the devs, etc... . It's not precalculated 3D character or other.
The next update will be ready when it's ready. The content is great and actually their progress on the game is good.
The next update will be ready when it's ready. The content is great and actually their progress on the game is good.
- Jun 16, 2017
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Goodness, will you just chill for a minute? You just made a load of suppositions.
Never suggested it's an art rip or asked for more art. Suggested flavor text and nought else. Ren'Py is known for deprecating pieces of code - which still remain usable - but I can't see how adding one or two lines per character would actually slow DC down that much.
No shit that it takes time. How obvious a statement to make.
Lucy reacted to Tristrix, not you. Stay out of arguments that don't concern you. Yes, I realise the irony in this statement.
I'll only say this once more: All she asked for was some reaction flavor text, nothing more. All the characters' facial expressions exist in the code and art files. No new art needed. We're getting off-topic her and should stop now. All hated arguments should taken in private so we CAN keep on topic.
srksrk 68 Is there any real need to be so snarky?
I'll not belabour things any further. Weird how it spiralled out of control like this. If you're going to argue with me, don't. I won't pay any attention to it. This thread just approached Sulphuric Acid levels of causticity, which I don't want to see on the thread for a game of this calibre.
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- Sep 17, 2018
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Wow. That hurts. Here I am, making the most polite reply possible to that thousandth repetition of "DC makes lots of mony but he does not make the game fast or good enough boohoo!" and all I am is snarky... What's that supposed to mean, by the way?
Peace
- Sep 22, 2017
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Why are you guys so fucking fixated on how much money he makes? The majority of the people here never contributed with a single dollar to the game.
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srksrk 68
Snarky: snide and sharply critical.
How else was I supposed to interpret your comment? It sure as hell sounded like a knee-jerk snark attack.
Badjourasmix
I'm not fixated on how much he makes. If he makes a lot of cash, that's good for him and his team. All I care about is that he keeps going with Summertime Saga and continues to improve.
Snarky: snide and sharply critical.
How else was I supposed to interpret your comment? It sure as hell sounded like a knee-jerk snark attack.
Badjourasmix
I'm not fixated on how much he makes. If he makes a lot of cash, that's good for him and his team. All I care about is that he keeps going with Summertime Saga and continues to improve.
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Not to be on the side of the "DC is a greedy, indolent fuck stick who is scamming his patreon supporters", but oh my god... you can see him stream 10-12 hours per week? Wooow. 10-12 hours. Big fuuuuucking deal. Everyone who has a full time job works that in a day and half, some people work that in a single day. You also have no way of knowing if he actually works "3X" that amount of time, are you on the development team? DC puts out a worthwhile update on average twice a year and they're typically not more than 10-15 minutes long, for pretty much any professional studio he would have been fired years ago. And scheduling devs? Again, big fuuuuuucking deal. Plenty of people do that for a living and produce results at a much faster pace. Why? Because they're not shaking a can on a digital street corner with a cardboard sign that says "Will draw big tits for spare change" on it.
There are patreon projects out there pulling in far less than Summertime Saga and producing results at a much faster clip, in many cases as good or of a better quality. The fact of the matter is that DC and company produce content at a very slow pace and at times it genuinely seems like they're purposefully drawing out development to try and drain more money out of the supporters of the project.
Again, though, it's just a porn game and we shouldn't get our collective panties in a bunch over it, but the people who complain are definitely justified due to how poor communication is from the team and how slow development is on the game.
- Jun 19, 2017
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@Oriandu:
You know very well that those 10 to 15 minutes number is just wrong. Even if you don't read a single line of text and use a walkthrough you'll need more time than that and once you actually play the update each Roxxy, Jenny and Diane will haven taken you easily 1.5 hours plus.
Else I don't know why you'd write something like "shaking a can on a digital street corner". DC is certainly one of the devs who really doesn't ask for money, unlike for excample idiots like DarkSilver who even threatened is patreons in the past. Quite on the contrary is SS still a free game and even none patreons can get it very soon after release - there's not even patreon only content, etc. Those who think that DC is too slow or doesn't produce to their standards can just stop paying and that's it. They can still play the game and won't have any real disadvantage.
Last but not least, even though it has been repeated 100 times in this topic, it's a big difference wether you just crank out honey select or daz renders or actually draw stuff by hand. One can be done very fast and is scalable while the other can't and isn't.
You know very well that those 10 to 15 minutes number is just wrong. Even if you don't read a single line of text and use a walkthrough you'll need more time than that and once you actually play the update each Roxxy, Jenny and Diane will haven taken you easily 1.5 hours plus.
Else I don't know why you'd write something like "shaking a can on a digital street corner". DC is certainly one of the devs who really doesn't ask for money, unlike for excample idiots like DarkSilver who even threatened is patreons in the past. Quite on the contrary is SS still a free game and even none patreons can get it very soon after release - there's not even patreon only content, etc. Those who think that DC is too slow or doesn't produce to their standards can just stop paying and that's it. They can still play the game and won't have any real disadvantage.
Last but not least, even though it has been repeated 100 times in this topic, it's a big difference wether you just crank out honey select or daz renders or actually draw stuff by hand. One can be done very fast and is scalable while the other can't and isn't.
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If I reply to you and showed you evidence that I now support DC in the highest Patreon Tier, will I then be granted the coveted "superhero special ability" to criticize DC and his work? or to share some ideas(i.e progress dialogs) here without hurting peoples feelings on behalf of DarkCookie?