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Forever being a bit over a year and 3 sub-updates that added 8+ girls and ~15 scenes, but yeah, pure milkage as you said and people are dumb .....
 
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Forever being a bit over a year and 3 sub-updates that added 8+ girls and ~15 scenes, but yeah, pure milkage as you said and people are dumb .....
I disagree with you last year we got only 12 scenes and they were, to be honest, not of the best quality. And it took more than 1.5 years, so it seems to me that the game has started to "sink" lately.
 

Omnikuken

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^ We got 0.20 in May 2020 and 0.20.8/9 in April this year, which last time I checked isn't even 1 year ....
 

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We got 0.20 in May 2020 and 0.20.8/9 in April this year, which last time I checked isn't even 1 year ..
Yes, he only started making version 0.20 in November 2019 and finished it in April of this year, I think it's easy to calculate how much time was actually spent. ;) Of course, you can argue that there were still small additions, but there was one with Consuela (I don't even consider Halloween, let's decide that it is included in 0.20.8), but still an incredibly much time was spent. And this is just my opinion, but the main story turned out so-so, both from the point of view of the main plot (the main villains are Russians and the corrupt Mayor Trump - OH GOD, HOW ORIGINAL !!!!), and from the point of view of working out the characters, relations with them and even the sex scenes were quite mediocre (as if the developers had lost all imagination and did not try to surprise the players at all).
 
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Guess opening the phone menu and clicking around the 4 icons until you find the hints that 99% hold your hand through the entire game is now the bane of mankind, way easier to go to random sites and get a walkthrough that basically tells you the same thing ....... (Not aimed at quoted, just replying to his reply)
At least you aren't given wrong advice as in one game.

It says 'perhaps you should take a walk in the morning to talk to character x' You do that five Days in a row and on the sixth day you do other hings and come back in the afternoon and you can talk to the character. Another trip down wrong advice lane is when you are told the "monster" is only seen in the evening but you find out you have set up things in the afternoon. o_O

At least this game doesn't have stuff like that.
 
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I disagree with you last year we got only 12 scenes and they were, to be honest, not of the best quality. And it took more than 1.5 years, so it seems to me that the game has started to "sink" lately.
But last year we had Covid so it wasn't like there was anything else to do with 90% of everything shut down. :p Why yes I am being sarcastic, how could you tell? :D
 

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But last year we had Covid so it wasn't like there was anything else to do with 90% of everything shut down. :p Why yes I am being sarcastic, how could you tell?
Yeah, but for whom is it easy now? :)
And given the specifics of the deves' work, the covid was not supposed to greatly affect their productivity - they work from home, they have a small company and they can easily cooperate online, the DC was sick for a couple of weeks, but this could not significantly affect the production time, since other members of his team could carry out their tasks.
And for those who say that the quality of the game has increased significantly, I will answer - remember the Roxy update. There was a bunch of scenes (9 if I don't confuse anything), a good story, a well-written heroine arc, a couple of mini-games, and it all took about 3 months. An update for Diana, I was not thrilled with it, but in terms of the time spent on the development of the content, it easily makes any part of the main story. Or Eve's update, although it took more than 4.5 months to create, but many consider it one of the best. In general, I repeat once again, I personally do not see an increase in quality that could justify such a development time. As i already wrote once, i do not consider the developer a fraud, i do not call heavenly punishments on his head, but the fact that he abuses "milking" cartridges is a fact.
 

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And given the specifics of the deves' work, the covid was not supposed to greatly affect their productivity - they work from home,
Which is a strange thing to say, when you suddenly have 3 small kids between the age of 0 and 3 at home because the daycare is closed for months ;)
I will answer - remember the Roxy update. There was a bunch of scenes (9 if I don't confuse anything), a good story, a well-written heroine arc, a couple of mini-games, and it all took about 3 months.
Well, it also was the last update without pregnancies, without any reworks, without wallpapers and with indeed way fewer cutscenes compared to the very recent ones. Every bit of art takes time and you can spend that time only once.
 
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If he completes the story for the popular characters he wouldn't have been able to stretch his development for those three years, gotta dangle that fruit. I'll hop back on his Patreon when I see updates for the characters I like (The Principle, waiting for so long....)

I will say despite the complaining he's a lot better than others, there is plenty of content for those 3 years even if it's not for the more popular characters. Balsamique from Behind the Dune has been teasing and teasing people with the prospect of Lady Jessica content for five years, dude made a great MILF and the only way to see her have sex is to either brainwash her, lose and she get's raped, or choose the "bad end" on purpose.
Understandable but DC earns more money than Balsamique. It just feels like he scams his patreons, the updates are taking way too long and they could make it faster by investing more into production like hiring programmers, new artists and writers. He has the financial stuff to do it so why do patreons have to wait half a year to get an update? Like i can understand it takes time to write story and such, but i'm sure they could release additional content on the side for existing characters like Jenny, Roxxy which are the most popular characters by far imo.

Like 1 update of small content each month with a side story and few scenes would not hurt, and i am sure people would stop criticizing DC for the update times. We want content, they are other developpers who earn way less than him and who makes updates every month or so, so why DC can't do that?
 
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... they are other developpers who earn way less than him and who makes updates every month or so, so why DC can't do that?
The rather simple answer is because it's a 2D game and DC essentially wants to draw his stuff himself - unless the perfect artist applies to help him out with these drawings. People may not like that answer, but it's been like this for 3 years now, so nobody can say they didn't know.
The team is tailored for DC's drawing speed and that's about all there is, most people are actually only working part time (writer, coder, poser), because there simply isn't enough work to employ them fulltime. It literally never mattered, whether he earned 30 or 70k, the speed would always be as it is.

Edit: Just to add, that's something every 2D game has to deal with. Once you reach the point where your artist works fulltime, there's nothing you can really do if you want to stay 100% consistent. Unless you decide to go really big and to employ a whole team of artists with proper supervision, quality control, etc. or unless you don't care for consistent art.
 
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