ImTransAndTiny

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Honest question.
What are the hints that show trans Evie is the true version?
The only thing I can think of to make that argument is Eve's relief that her parents died. That would only make sense if they had failed her in a soul crushing way, like if they were about to disown her for being trans. That's the explanation that I added to my patch.
 

j4yj4m

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Honest question.
What are the hints that show trans Evie is the true version?
First of all, the writer indeed said so a couple of times.

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Next to that it's really the story itself. Her female route is indeed quite a bit weaker and I think one can feel that it was written to fit into the frame of her trans story.
 
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j4yj4m

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What teenage girl doesn't have body insecurities?
Well, there are degrees, but I'd say only few end up at the point where Eve is? At least few, who don't have actual issues. Eve does have her scar, but it still seems like a strange hook for a story, if one considers that DC/Sploosh had every other option in the world if the female version was meant to be the canon version.
 

j4yj4m

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Sploosh was in the team, when DC created Eve ?
Aqua's 0.14.3 was the first update written by Sploosh. Time flies, right?

Edit: Just to add some context, the last update written by DC himself was indeed Mia. Everything after that was written by Sploosh.
 
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starlord99

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"Eve grew up alongside Grace and Odette both of whom are full figured and ridiculously attractive" Me who finds Eve 100 times more attractive: :confused:
 

nevt2050ptr

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Considering that I first played this game when I started my second year in college. It's like two different eras for me.
 

gam2000

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There are a bunch of threads asking for games with a small-dicked protagonist or SPH content. They get 4 or 5 responses with a few links and sympathetic responses lamenting the lack of such content, so I created an SPH patch for Summertime Saga. I figure Anon was about 12" before, so I reduced him to about 3". There's already a hairy mod, so why not a small cock mod?
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I can understand wanting to reduced it down from 12" for some, but, for crying out loud - 3"? At least make it average. Would he even be able to get it it?
What is SPH and PE?
 

Viressa

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I can understand wanting to reduced it down from 12" for some, but, for crying out loud - 3"? At least make it average. Would he even be able to get it it?
What is SPH and PE?
Small Penis Humiliation. Basically your partner laughing at you because you have a small penis. You don't have to have a micropenis to be into this fetish, btw, lots of malesubs with average penises are into it. Lots of trans girls also get off on pretending to have a smaller penis than they actually do for obvious gender dysphoria reasons.

Speaking of which, we can use our pizza delivery money to buy a beach house and a sports car, why can't we buy Eve bottom surgery? Serious question.
 

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There are a bunch of threads asking for games with a small-dicked protagonist or SPH content. They get 4 or 5 responses with a few links and sympathetic responses lamenting the lack of such content, so I created an SPH patch for Summertime Saga. I figure Anon was about 12" before, so I reduced him to about 3". There's already a hairy mod, so why not a small cock mod?

Hundreds of lines of dialog and diary entries have been changed to replace all references to Anon's absurdly large penis with references to his micropenis, and to acknowledge his (mostly unacknowledged) premature ejaculation issues and add new PE content. Anon is also more likely to get an erection when he observes women naked, watching porn, or masturbating. Besides SPH and PE, I sprinkled in a touch of CEI and sissification. I extended some scenes, added a new achievement, and added a lot of SPH content for Jenny -- particularly if you choose the submissive route. This was no simple Find and Replace job. I had to make each change make sense in context, and had to make significant dialog changes to explain why everyone in town is eager to jump on Anon's micropenis. There are changes to almost all of the 1571 .rpy script files, as well as some of the .txt and .json files, to make it so that the change is more than an afterthought -- the fact that Anon is not hung is as integral to the patch as being hung is to the original game. It's taken a couple of weeks and been a labor of lust.

I hope that some of my changes will be incorporated into the main game. I corrected dozens of spelling and punctuation errors (apparently the authors don't know the difference between "ravage" and "ravish"), increased the wait time on longer bits of dialog during sex scenes, and added a few facial expression transitions to match the dialog. Basically, I fixed anything that was broken while I was in the neighborhood. I also added a few lines of dialog for Grace, Eve, and Anon to more realistically and sensitively respond to her coming out if the trans option is chosen. It's a small change, but I feel that it's important for trans characters to be more than just a gimmick. Eve deserves her new content.

With regard to graphics, the newer scenes make use of overlays, so it's trivial to redraw Anon's penis and it gets seamlessly drawn over the images of his body/clothing. Only a few dozen images had to be altered to update multiple scenes with multiple women. Older scenes didn't use overlays, so there are hundreds of images specific to a single scene where I have to shrink his penis and then -- hopefully -- find a similar image of his clothing/body to fill in the hole that his megacock used to cover.

I'm currently doing a final playthrough of the game and fixing every scene in which he has a megacock instead of a micropenis, but it's an 80/20 rule situation -- you get 80% of your result from 20% of your effort. Fixing each remaining scene is potentially an hour of work, and I only have a few hours per day to work on it. Before I devote another couple of weeks to finishing what I've started, I've finally decided to ask if anyone will even want to use this patch when it's done. It's obvious that developers believe that a majority of supporters want a protagonist with an absurdly large penis, but I know from the many request threads that some people want the opposite. This is one of my favorite games, and I wanted to get this patch done before the next version comes out. If no one else is ever going to play it, I won't rush and I'll maintain the project for myself.
Anon: "Here it comes..."
pause
Anon: "HNNGGG!!!"
Missy: "..."
pause
Missy: "That's it?"
Missy: "What a ... load..."
Roxxy: "Hahaha!"
missy: "That was so ... awesome?"
Roxxy: "It was pretty not..."
Anon: "Thought that was really nice!"
Missy: "We absolutely have to try that again sometime!"
Roxxy: "God, you are such a greedy bitch, Missy!"
Missy: "C'mon, please Roxxy!!"
Roxxy: "*Sigh*"
Roxxy: "Maybe next time..."
Missy: "Yessss!!!"
Missy: "Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!"
Roxxy: "Ugh, really?"
Missy: "Your boyfriend has like, the tiniest dick ever!"
Roxxy: "Uhh, yeah. Tell me something I don't know!"
Missy: "Seriously, Anon."
Missy: "Like, THE TINIEST!"
Missy: "I can't wait to tell my sister about it!"
Roxxy: "What?!"
Roxxy: "Hell no!"
Roxxy: "Don't tell that skank anything about this!"
Missy: "Aww, but-"
Roxxy: "Not a word, Missy!"
Missy: "..."
Missy: "Alright, I won't tell her, sheesh..."
Roxxy: "Good. Now, put your damn clothes on and go sit by the fire with Becca!"
Missy: "*Sigh* Fine."

I wish you luck. But that's not for me ;)
 

Omnikuken

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Small Penis Humiliation. Basically your partner laughing at you because you have a small penis. You don't have to have a micropenis to be into this fetish, btw, lots of malesubs with average penises are into it. Lots of trans girls also get off on pretending to have a smaller penis than they actually do for obvious gender dysphoria reasons.

Speaking of which, we can use our pizza delivery money to buy a beach house and a sports car, why can't we buy Eve bottom surgery? Serious question.
Maybe because DC and co don't give enough fucks to care about it ? Or they're too busy swimming in that sweet milk pool they get every month ? Not counting Eve's route is 3 years old and most normal people would deal with that fact and move on to future builds instead of dwelling on nitpicky non-sense. Or DC and co are just trash devs like most dudes around here claim daily
 

j4yj4m

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Speaking of which, we can use our pizza delivery money to buy a beach house and a sports car, why can't we buy Eve bottom surgery? Serious question.
To me that's kinda against the premise of her story to be honest. In the end it's more about her getting confident about who she is and not about changing her to be "someone else".

Next to that I'm not really sure why it should be added in the first place. Those who don't like trans characters won't be happy about it anyway (after all, she's still trans) and for those who like her trans story/don't mind it, there doesn't seem to be a need.

So it would be quite a bit of work/another branch for a result that won't really improve the game. At least that's how I see it.
 

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How to get the latest scenes of Eve and Jenny?
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In the evening go to mc's house attic and click on the rug.
Weekend morning go to Eve room. Sleep with her, and when mc wakes up go to bathroom and click on the shower curtain.
 

MurkyTurtle

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I haven't played this for a time, what does 'Pre-tech - Part 2' mean?
The current update to convert the game to widescreen and fix the old, saggy code is going to take roughly 3-4 times longer to finish than initially projected, so they're trickling out some small "pre-tech" updates containing individual scenes for a small batch of characters every few months. This should keep people from rioting in the streets and cancelling their Patreon subscriptions happy until the full update releases. Theoretically, anyways.

We've gotten two batches so far, with one more planned.
 
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