mattius77

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All fair mattius77 but if someone keeps paying a gym membership without going there all year, it's on them. It's not like the first few months are free, but you must still put in your credit card... you'll have plenty of time to cancel before your free trail membership expires... right?
Yeah, sure. It's still the same concept. Subscription services of all stripes make a fair bit of revenue off of forgotten sign ups. Whether it's a streaming TV service that has a negative option they'll hope you forget about (meaning you have to affirmatively take steps to cancel) before getting at least one billing month out of you, or the $1 Patreon tier. The idea is that the business model is set up in part to capitalize on a certain percentage of consumers being idiots.

In the specific example we're talking about here, it is not something that's unique to Dark Cookie and Summertime Saga. It's just how Patreon is set up.
 
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j4yj4m

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The low dollar value tiers sort of exist for people who sign up and then forget they are a recurring expense.
That's not really the case though. Even at the lowest tier you get access to the game right away from DC's own servers and you'll be able access the stream archive which basically includes every stream ever recorded by DC. I'd actually argue that everything above the $1 tier is pretty optional.

Next to that it's certainly true that people who pay very little will care less and may even still be happy to support - after all, it's just $12 a year.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he quit his 'day job' some time ago and focuses solely on Summertime Saga, which is not the worst of situations to be in. He logs in every morning and streams for a few hours, has no real external pressure or deadlines, can work or not work as he alone sees fit. Good on ya, dude.
He actually quit his day job before he started working on SS. Back then he left the animation industry to start freelancing and SS was actually supposed to be his personal coding excercise to teach himself how to work with renpy. As mentioned many times, this game was never supposed to become anything at all, let alone anything big, which is why so much has to be reworked now in the first place.
 
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Omnikuken

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That's not really the case though. Even at the lowest tier you get access to the game right away from DC's own servers and you'll be able access the stream archive which basically includes every stream ever recorded by DC. I'd actually argue that everything above the $1 tier is pretty optional.

Next to that it's certainly true that people who pay very little will care less and may even still be happy to support - after all, it's just $12 a year.


He actually quit his day job before he started working on SS. Back then he left the animation industry to start freelancing and SS was actually supposed to be his personal coding excercise to teach himself how to work with renpy. As mentioned many times, this game was never supposed to become anything at all, let alone anything big, which is why so much has to be reworked now in the first place.
Most perks you get in higher tiers is secret Discord channels and more votes in poll
 

j4yj4m

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Most perks you get in higher tiers is secret Discord channels and more votes in poll
Sure, and stuff like the detailed tracker, wallpapers, personal lines for Cpt. Sploosh etc. - I'm not saying there are no benefits.

I just wanted to say is, that it's not like with some other games, where you get nothing but the patreon feed on the lowest tier.
 

Omnikuken

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Grade 6 math, grade 3 spelling, and grade 4 grammar are difficult for some.
Even better than him not getting up to 100% : according to his ungodly math skills, it took them over 6 years to get to where we are in the tech build. Which means that they were working on the tech update before 0.1 came out. Such power shouldn't be in the hands of mere mortals
 

Aether2077

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Bro, you didn't pay for the game, you sent a tip to DC telling him you liked his work and to keep doing it. And what would you be doing with your life if the game was finished since then ? Still not play it and cry DC hasn't finished Summertime 3 by now ?
Why when someone talking about DC and game taking too long you are the one to reply and defending him? Is Dc your cousin or something?
 

Omnikuken

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Jesus, that bikini top deserves an endurance medal. It looks like she's got about thirty seconds before it finally snaps and makes everyone's summer that much brighter :D
I'd say Roxxy's murica top in the beach contest is a close tie between which 1 of them is holding out for dear life

It would be good to have the rest of DC's post that came with the wallpaper
 
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