Omnikuken

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Does DC pay you to defend Him? No? Then dont defend him .
Or does he ? In that case, yes I'll defend him. Does it make you too butthurt to have a counter point based on actual facts that destroys your milker theroy that DC rakes in the $ every month doing nothing and delaying the game just to spite you ? Maybe I'm not the problem here
 

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I haven't played this in a while. I'm not gonna play till the Judith update... so that means I'm not gonna play again till 2028
Heh, means that I will have to wait till 2032 for Debbie update. None of the family chars received an update since 2017-2018, I think. Feels like Dev bit off more then he could ever chew.
 

Omnikuken

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Heh, means that I will have to wait till 2032 for Debbie update. None of the family chars received an update since 2017-2018, I think. Feels like Dev bit off more then he could ever chew.
Jenny's route was finished in 2018, so nothing for her since (and probably nothing more), aside the preg scene in batch 1. Nobody votes for Debbie's remake, so it'll never happen. Dev didn't "bit more than he can chew", you just have to know how the game/updates work
 

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Jenny's route was finished in 2018, so nothing for her since (and probably nothing more), aside the preg scene in batch 1. Nobody votes for Debbie's remake, so it'll never happen. Dev didn't "bit more than he can chew", you just have to know how the game/updates work
Game was build on the incest theme. The whole premise was about it. But let's take a look at all the characters with introductory scenes only:

Judith
Latino twins
Gym teach
Thin friend of Roxy
Yoga instuctor
Lifeguard girl
Black girl who swims
And I am sure many others I've forgot

And there is no ending for any of the other already established characters either. Mia, Diane, Debbie, Jenny, Erik's mother, Roxy, her friends. They are all just like in stasis with no clear end in sight.

The game is only about half-way done simply by virtue of tying off lose ends. Even if none of the characters receive much expansion on their routes there are simply too many questions left unanswered.

Then there is a new storyline about pregnancy lab or smth. That needs it time in the spotlight too.

When did this game start development, 2016? Almost 7 years in development?

My most hopeful prognosis is another 3-4 years. Long enough to celebrate it's first decade.
 

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Game was build on the incest theme. The whole premise was about it. But let's take a look at all the characters with introductory scenes only:

Judith
Latino twins
Gym teach
Thin friend of Roxy
Yoga instuctor
Lifeguard girl
Black girl who swims
And I am sure many others I've forgot

And there is no ending for any of the other already established characters either. Mia, Diane, Debbie, Jenny, Erik's mother, Roxy, her friends. They are all just like in stasis with no clear end in sight.

The game is only about half-way done simply by virtue of tying off lose ends. Even if none of the characters receive much expansion on their routes there are simply too many questions left unanswered.

Then there is a new storyline about pregnancy lab or smth. That needs it time in the spotlight too.

When did this game start development, 2016? Almost 7 years in development?

My most hopeful prognosis is another 3-4 years. Long enough to celebrate it's first decade.
I fail to see how any of that has anything to do with anything. Wincest got nuked 5 years ago from Patreon, crying about it won't help. All the girls you listed are either planned after the tech build or need to win a poll for their remake. All of this was known 2 years ago when they started the tech update. So once more, where are you going with that post ? Unless you missed the last 5+ years of comments or never played the game and ignored the streams, everything should be basic knowledge at this point

Let's even break it down for the lulz and produce some ungodly long and empty post :

Wincest : nuked for 5 years
Judith : 3rd planned route after tech
Gym teacher : needs to win a poll with the other teachers for a preg remake/update
Friend of Roxxy (aka Missy) : didn't win the poll to have scene(s) in the batches, will have to wait for Roxxy's preg remake/poll
Yoga : 3rd grade girl who'll maybe get something in Erik's remake
Lifeguard : goes with R(h)onda's update, right after the tech build (and probably 6+ months)
Black girl : see above (and at least try to get her name ......)

Next bunch :

Mia : needs to win a poll for remake
Diane : route is mostly done, she might get another remake (her 4th so far) to nuke the barn and get house back
Debbie : see Mia
Jenny : route done since 2018 and has the most scenes, won't get anything soon, if ever
Erik's notmom : see above with Erik's remake
Roxxy and friends : see above*2
 
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Unless you missed the last 5+ years of comments or never played the game and ignored the streams,
Nope, don't read the forum besides chatting shit from time to time, didn't watch streams either. After my first year patroned, I played the game twice I think. Once before quarantine and the last time few months ago. But I think that's how people normally interact with the game and on this forum.

I am just noting in general how bloated the game had become and how far outside of it's premise it veered. A ren'py porn game taking a decade to end it's development is really too much.

P.S. at this point does Patreon ban even do anything with patches and stuff? I would imagine half the games here would not have existed if it did. Summertime Saga would not be able skirt around the issue with "but we haven't added pseudo-incest in the last 5 years" either, since it already has plenty.

p.s. 2 Do dev's polls show number of participants? I think people who vote are in the minority even among the patrons. Simply judging by how I and ppl I know interact with the platform.
 
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Forgive me if this has been asked before, but I just answered yes when Eve asked MC if he'd ever be into dating guys. Did this ever get followed up on? Is there any gay content at all, or is Kevin just there for jokes? In such an expansive game, and one that handled it's trans character with such surprising sensitivity, it feels like a missed opportunity if not.

Also Kevin's hot lol.
 

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Forgive me if this has been asked before, but I just answered yes when Eve asked MC if he'd ever be into dating guys. Did this ever get followed up on? Is there any gay content at all, or is Kevin just there for jokes? In such an expansive game, and one that handled it's trans character with such surprising sensitivity, it feels like a missed opportunity if not.

Also Kevin's hot lol.
As far as I know, there indeed was gay content in discussion. But I don't know what became of it. The answer to Eve´s question is currently one of the prerequisites for having the option to make Eve being trans. Later, in the course of her route, at a decisive moment, when you see her in underwear for the first time, there will be the decision whether there is a pussy or a penis to be seen. So don't worry, you can't stumble into the trans content
 

Omnikuken

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Oh, those were the days when the developer released a Christmas update in December...
v0.20.16: 31 Oct 2022 (Small Secret Pre-tech part 6) -> 1 month
v0.20.15: 25 Sep 2022 (Pre-tech part 5) -> 5 months
v0.20.14: 29 Apr 2022 (Pre-tech part 4) -> 2.5 months
v0.20.13: 19 Feb 2022 (Pre-tech part 3) -> 4 months
v0.20.12: 22 Oct 2021 (Pre-tech part 2) -> 3 months
v0.20.11: 01 Jul 2021 (Pre-tech part 1) -> 3 months
v0.20.9: 31 Mar 2021 (Main Story grand finale) -> 5 months
v0.20.7: 25 Oct 2020 (Odette Halloween) -> 1.5 months
v0.20.5: 08 Sep 2020 (Main Story 2) -> 4 months
v0.20.1: 05 May 2020 (Main Story 1) -> 5+ months
v0.19.5: 20 Dec 2019 (Consuela) -> 2 months
v0.19.1: 19 Oct 2019 (Eve) -> 4.5 months
v0.18.6: 05 Jun 2019 (Jenny) -> 1 month
v0.18.2: 04 May 2019 (Jenny) -> 4.5 months
v0.17.5: 16 Dec 2018 (Daisy) -> 1- month
v0.17.1: 29 Nov 2018 (Diane) -> 4 months
v0.16.1: 31 Jul 2018 (Roxxy) -> 3+ months
v0.15.3: 17 Apr 2018 (Teachers) -> 4 months
v0.14.5: 20 Dec 2017 (Debbie) -> 1.5 months
v0.14.3: 01 Nov 2017 (Aqua) -> 0.5 months
v0.14.1: 13 Oct 2017 (Mia) -> 2- months
v0.13.1: 22 Aug 2017 (Tammy, June) -> 2 months
v0.12.7: 26 Jun 2017 (Debbie, Jenny, Diane) -> 1 month
v0.12.1: 22 May 2017 (Debbie, Jenny, Diane) -> 2.5 months
v0.11.0: 03 Mar 2017 (Debbie) -> 2.5 months
v0.10.0: 23 Jan 2017 (Diane)

What xmas update though ? We got 3 updates in December, most of which weren't for xmas content. We actually got more Halloween-themed updates
 
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v0.20.16: 31 Oct 2022 (Small Secret Pre-tech part 6) -> 1 month
v0.20.15: 25 Sep 2022 (Pre-tech part 5) -> 5 months
v0.20.14: 29 Apr 2022 (Pre-tech part 4) -> 2.5 months
v0.20.13: 19 Feb 2022 (Pre-tech part 3) -> 4 months
v0.20.12: 22 Oct 2021 (Pre-tech part 2) -> 3 months
v0.20.11: 01 Jul 2021 (Pre-tech part 1) -> 3 months
v0.20.9: 31 Mar 2021 (Main Story grand finale) -> 5 months
v0.20.7: 25 Oct 2020 (Odette Halloween) -> 1.5 months
v0.20.5: 08 Sep 2020 (Main Story 2) -> 4 months
v0.20.1: 05 May 2020 (Main Story 1) -> 5+ months
v0.19.5: 20 Dec 2019 (Consuela) -> 2 months
v0.19.1: 19 Oct 2019 (Eve) -> 4.5 months
v0.18.6: 05 Jun 2019 (Jenny) -> 1 month
v0.18.2: 04 May 2019 (Jenny) -> 4.5 months
v0.17.5: 16 Dec 2018 (Daisy) -> 1- month
v0.17.1: 29 Nov 2018 (Diane) -> 4 months
v0.16.1: 31 Jul 2018 (Roxxy) -> 3+ months
v0.15.3: 17 Apr 2018 (Teachers) -> 4 months
v0.14.5: 20 Dec 2017 (Debbie) -> 1.5 months
v0.14.3: 01 Nov 2017 (Aqua) -> 0.5 months
v0.14.1: 13 Oct 2017 (Mia) -> 2- months
v0.13.1: 22 Aug 2017 (Tammy, June) -> 2 months
v0.12.7: 26 Jun 2017 (Debbie, Jenny, Diane) -> 1 month
v0.12.1: 22 May 2017 (Debbie, Jenny, Diane) -> 2.5 months
v0.11.0: 03 Mar 2017 (Debbie) -> 2.5 months
v0.10.0: 23 Jan 2017 (Diane)

What xmas update though ? We got 3 updates in December, most of which weren't for xmas content. We actually got more Halloween-themed updates
It's just mind-blowing how with more people working on the game, the updates take longer and longer to get accomplished xd That year and a half is destroying our patience
 

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Nope, don't read the forum besides chatting shit from time to time, didn't watch streams either. After my first year patroned, I played the game twice I think. Once before quarantine and the last time few months ago. But I think that's how people normally interact with the game and on this forum.
Apparently you have to be terminally online on a porn game forum to be able to say anything on the matter, asking a question is frowned upon too. You gotta keep up man!

I am just noting in general how bloated the game had become and how far outside of it's premise it veered. A ren'py porn game taking a decade to end it's development is really too much.
That's what I've been saying, DC keeps bloating the game and perpetuates development, doesn't necessarily mean he's doing it to milk, but adding loose ends on the pile of unfinished content is noteworthy.

P.S. at this point does Patreon ban even do anything with patches and stuff? I would imagine half the games here would not have existed if it did. Summertime Saga would not be able skirt around the issue with "but we haven't added pseudo-incest in the last 5 years" either, since it already has plenty.
The Patreon incest ban is a non-argument that holds no merit whatsoever. He keeps using it even though that argument has proven to be worthless multiple times.

p.s. 2 Do dev's polls show number of participants? I think people who vote are in the minority even among the patrons. Simply judging by how I and ppl I know interact with the platform.
Yep, although that's not DC's fault, it's not a reliable statistic to base your argument on.
 

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Why you would get triggered when someone talk about DC ? Does he pay you? No? Then stop.
I just said what i said to maybe stop fighting nonsense about milking or not milking.
There is a real world try live in that world and stop being DC's Hero , he make 70000$/month and all you do is watching who is talking about DC and get triggered.
im ignoring you so dont bother to reply.

Why admins wouldn't ban him ?im sure if they do that half of this fights will never start
I mean, you pretty much took the side of the people complaining, you assumed DC being a milker is a fact which it really isn't.
 

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Why you would get triggered when someone talk about DC ? Does he pay you? No? Then stop.
I just said what i said to maybe stop fighting nonsense about milking or not milking.
There is a real world try live in that world and stop being DC's Hero , he make 70000$/month and all you do is watching who is talking about DC and get triggered.
im ignoring you so dont bother to reply.

Why admins wouldn't ban him ?im sure if they do that half of this fights will never start
You feel free to talk shit about people, why don't you stop,Hmm?
 

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P.S. at this point does Patreon ban even do anything with patches and stuff? I would imagine half the games here would not have existed if it did. Summertime Saga would not be able skirt around the issue with "but we haven't added pseudo-incest in the last 5 years" either, since it already has plenty.
The Patreon incest ban is a non-argument that holds no merit whatsoever. He keeps using it even though that argument has proven to be worthless multiple times.
To be fair, DC was one of the very few people who was actually blocked by Patreon and had to give guarantees to be unblocked again. As such the family connections we've got now are the "best" Patreon allowed back then, while stepcest, for example, was explicitly not ok, as far as I'm aware.
That's certainly different compared to dudes who just release their stuff now and have never been caught in the first place. They'd get a second chance, DC probably wouldn't.

Patreon doesn't seem to care too much anymore, as long as it's not advertised on the main page, but in DC's case it's still risky, simply because he's been on notice. And let's face it, given the number of people with hate boners, there'd be enough reports, so Patreon might have another look.

Edit: FlyingPony: As to why there's not much more content for the family members? Quite simply because they never were supposed to get that much more in the first place. While the game features incest, the family characters were always meant to be a few among many others. It simply happend by chance/will of the patrons, that they were the first to get their updates.
 
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To be fair, DC was one of the very few people who was actually blocked by Patreon and had to give guarantees to be unblocked again.
Yeap, remember that whole debacle. Oh how many have fallen, fled or bent the knee when the ban was decreed. Big Brother, SS, Icstor's whole page and so many more.
That's certainly different compared to dudes who just release their stuff now and have never been caught in the first place. They'd get a second chance, DC probably wouldn't.
Yet Jenny, Debbie and Diana still received some new content and sex scenes after the ban. But if I were in DC's shoes I too would be very careful playing with potential fire. So I don't really see the lack of incest content as egregious as some ppl on this forum do.
As to why there's not much more content for the family members? Quite simply because they never were supposed to get that much more in the first place. While the game features incest, the family characters were always meant to be a few among many others
And that's alright, but there are too many of those other characters. The most core characters still didn't receive their deserved conclusions, yet there is still a constant influx of new faces, new plots and "checkhov's guns". You know, at some point I wanna see how the story ends and preferably before my children get to have their own children.
 
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To be fair, DC was one of the very few people who was actually blocked by Patreon and had to give guarantees to be unblocked again. As such the family connections we've got now are the "best" Patreon allowed back then, while stepcest, for example, was explicitly not ok, as far as I'm aware.
That's certainly different compared to dudes who just release their stuff now and have never been caught in the first place. They'd get a second chance, DC probably wouldn't.

Patreon doesn't seem to care too much anymore, as long as it's not advertised on the main page, but in DC's case it's still risky, simply because he's been on notice. And let's face it, given the number of people with hate boners, there'd be enough reports, so Patreon might have another look.
I know, I'm not arguing he should add the incest itself back in, I'm saying the incest-ban has nothing to do with what the OP said. As long as there are incest patches outside of the official game, Patreon doesn't have a reason to ban or penalize DC, otherwise he would've been banned already because there's obvious incest in the game guised only by "they're actually friends and totally not related at all".

Edit: FlyingPony: As to why there's not much more content for the family members? Quite simply because they never were supposed to get that much more in the first place. While the game features incest, the family characters were always meant to be a few among many others. It simply happend by chance/will of the patrons, that they were the first to get their updates.
The family are the first characters you interact with, they're the first characters to have had any lewd content when polling wasn't even a thing, the intro of the game pretty much states you have to be the man of the house because your father died and also get a prom date, the main quest revolves around finding out what happened to your dad who is family and is obviously related to Jenny and married to Debbie, IIRC Diane was the first to get a dedicated quest.

Sure, they were never meant to be the main focus of the game, but you can't say they don't play a fundamental role in the game.
 
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