Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[Count Morado]

still not 30+ LOL recycled animations. boring!

I have shown you are wrong four times in three separate posts. now you're just a broken record refusing to face the facts. It's not about defending anyone - it's about using objectivity and honesty when looking at the information.

I personally don't give a fuck if Summertime Saga fails or becomes gospel. And I've not donated a single red cent to the DC or any other adult game developer. The fact that you can't put your own personal bias aside when faced with proven information which contradicts your cognitive distortion tells more about you than about the game or DC.

 

[CoolHandChewie]

I have shown you are wrong four times in three separate posts. now you're just a broken record refusing to face the facts. It's not about defending anyone - it's about using objectivity and honesty when looking at the information.

I personally don't give a fuck if Summertime Saga fails or becomes gospel. And I've not donated a single red cent to the DC or any other adult game developer. The fact that you can't put your own personal bias aside when faced with proven information which contradicts your cognitive distortion tells more about you than about the game or DC.

nope you showed me you dont know how to count there was not 30+ new animations last year, and even if it was 30 animations in one year that is still sad. talk about slow unmotivated artists.

these animations consists of maybe 6 to 12 frames. wow they drew 360 frames in a whole year! what they work 1 hour a day? i could crank out one of these loops a day easy.

 

[Omnikuken]

111 days, which is nearly four months. And let's check in on how things are progressing...

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That's...not a lot of work completed. Assuming that the tracker is being kept up to date, that's the last writing task done, nine coding tasks done and eight added (yielding net progress of "one task"), and zero progress on either posing or art. That doesn't bode well. Even part-time I'd have expected at least a single posing task to get done, and word seems to be filtering out that it's going so catastrophically poorly that they're having to build automatic engines to speed things up. What sort of horrible fuckery have they done to the Ren'Py engine?

DC is either going to have to release another pre-tech update to keep the natives from getting restless, or he's looking at potentially an entire year of fiddling on Picarto while the project burns. I get that he doesn't want to be Mr. Big Business Manager and just wants to draw, but at some point you have to hire on a full-time person or two who know what they're doing.

The art bar didn't move for more than a year, expecting it to do otherwise is a bit moot. They hired 2 new posers to speed things up, seems like that wasn't enough. Coder can't do much if everything else gets bogged down (mostly the posing). DC won't hire another dude anyway. You'll have to cringe through the year and wait for stuff to happen or go the milker way and cry every day you're getting scammed. Nothing else will happen and nothing you do or say will change anything.

Whether or not DC knows/cares/worries about anything happening outside of the dev team is yet to be shown too. He blows at managing and won't seek outside help, you either cope with that or cry daily about it. Won't matter much to any1 else. Pledge or not, won't change much either

 

[teraptuss]

On the bright side its been like 15-20+ pages since someone asked if the incest patch still works

 

[Omnikuken]

On the bright side its been like 15-20+ pages since someone asked if the incest patch still works

Don't tempt them too much. Or at least we'll know who to point out if it happens

 

[styggtuff12]

when it was time for the tech update i decided not to play any of the small updates and wait for the update after the tech update because the tech update is mostly technical not story/character focused, it's been a year and a half or two years now, when is this update gonna drop? at this point he's just milking the patreons for all they're worth

 

[Omnikuken]

when it was time for the tech update i decided not to play any of the small updates and wait for the update after the tech update because the tech update is mostly technical not story/character focused, it's been a year and a half or two years now, when is this update gonna drop? at this point he's just milking the patreons for all they're worth

Your loss, it'll be 2 years at the end of March, nobody knows and nope

 

[StreamSteam]

DC has commissioned member(s?) of the community to animate certain older scenes as part of this update, which is pretty cool.

You mean the animations made by dildorog ? nope they will not appear in the official Summertime Saga build .
Dildo releases new STS animations several times a week, DC should hire such talented people.

 

[Omnikuken]

You mean the animations made by dildorog ? nope they will not appear in the official Summertime Saga build .
Dildo releases new STS animations several times a week, DC should hire such talented people.

DC doesn't do the animations for the game, it's hard to compare them

 

[StreamSteam]

DC doesn't do the animations for the game, it's hard to compare them

Never claimed that, know that AEHentai does.

 

[ToBeContinued]

we just here laughing at this disaster and the gullible chumps still funding it. LOL its a MEME now.

Heh. Why rush things and get it actually done/completed when you have suckers(donators) eh. There goes that money cow(donations). Which means Dark and his co-horts would have to find real jobs. But then you have these fools(donators) that will use every defense to justify what they did before ever admiting they got screwed. Pride is a motherfucker. "No man, you are wrong, its not a waste of money." Mm hm, sure, what-ever makes you sleep better at night. I really do hope you believe that your money was well spent on a game with nothing but repetitive fetch quests.

 

[Omnikuken]

Heh. Why rush things and get it actually done/completed when you have suckers(donators) eh. There goes that money cow(donations). Which means Dark and his co-horts would have to find real jobs. But then you have these fools(donators) that will use every defense to justify what they did before ever admiting they got screwed. Pride is a motherfucker. "No man, you are wrong, its not a waste of money." Mm hm, sure, what-ever makes you sleep better at night. I really do hope you believe that your money was well spent on a game with nothing but repetitive fetch quests.

Then you realize people donate about 2$ a month, they don't pay for anything and aren't promised anything in return. Multiply that by ~25k people that don't care about it and you got whiners thinking they found something worthwhile to moan about

 

[Toasty_Sloth]

As someone who donates to this a few times a year I donate because this game is a distraction that I am willing to pay for to support a devoted developer. He makes so much money because he has earned it try and discredit that all you want yet the proof is staring right at you with the fan base. You can say that all the donators are being scammed yet they are watching his streams and talking in his main communities happily paying him a few bucks a month. These tech updates were not going to have much content to my understanding, yet I see more in those then most games with a regular update. I know devs that are way worse on here one has to turn off comments when an update comes out due to the pure hate that comes from the upset community on here.

Donors gonna donate and I guess haters gonna hate.

 

[Deleted member 5184286]

As someone who donates to this a few times a year I donate because this game is a distraction that I am willing to pay for to support a devoted developer. He makes so much money because he has earned it try and discredit that all you want yet the proof is staring right at you with the fan base. You can say that all the donators are being scammed yet they are watching his streams and talking in his main communities happily paying him a few bucks a month. These tech updates were not going to have much content to my understanding, yet I see more in those then most games with a regular update. I know devs that are way worse on here one has to turn off comments when an update comes out due to the pure hate that comes from the upset community on here.

Donors gonna donate and I guess haters gonna hate.

lmao and paid shills gonna shill ...

 

[Toasty_Sloth]

lmao and paid shills gonna shill ...

I am not being paid by anyone in fact the opposite I am also not saying anyone should go donate that is a personal choice they make. So, I will assume your ignorant about the word shill and just said the first hater remark that came to mind because your upset about something.

I am just a fan watching people whine about something they got for free saying I got scammed because I donated a little bit of money. I didn't have to donate to play the game I only did it to support something that made me happy I am sure I have wasted more money on something that brought me less joy.

 

[McSlut]

As someone who donates to this a few times a year I donate because this game is a distraction that I am willing to pay for to support a devoted developer.

if you care about this game you should stop donating even if it's just 2$ or whatever. if enough people do this there might be change, for example DC might actually hire a project manager, employ a full time coder or at least he might pretend to actually work on stream instead of doodling for 2 hours or wasting 30 minutes talking to his team about where exactly to put a chair inside the bar and things like that. if progress continues at this pace the tech update is still not going to be out by the same time next year

 

[Count Morado]

if you care about this game you should stop donating even if it's just 2$ or whatever. if enough people do this there might be change, for example DC might actually hire a project manager, employ a full time coder or at least he might pretend to actually work on stream instead of doodling for 2 hours or wasting 30 minutes talking to his team about where exactly to put a chair inside the bar and things like that. if progress continues at this pace the tech update is still not going to be out by the same time next year

I know this is difficult to process - but there are enough players of the game, both subscribers and non, who aren't as bothered by the pace as some of the more vocal individuals who are bothered. Personally - as a nonsubscriber - it doesn't bother me if this takes 2 months or 20 years.

If it bothers a person that it is taking this long of time and they are a subscriber, we have all advocated that they should stop donating. If it doesn't bother them and they wish to keep donating, that is their choice. They might get enjoyment out of watching the streams live or on VOD, they might see the value in what DC and the team are doing even if it is taking a stretch of time, they might just support DC's vision, they might simply donate as a way of saying thanks, or they might just be donating for no other reason that "meh, seems like a thing to do."

As has been mentioned time and again, DC left his previous work partially because he did not enjoy working in a traditional game development firm (with project managers, etc) - so the idea that he might hire one to manage him is a non-starter. His doodling on the stream is a public relations activity as well as a way to have interactions with some of the fanbase - it should not be seen as some kind of productivity time that has its primary intent to advance the game content, but as 'facetime' that may result in content. Its like having Wendy's fast-food restaurant founder Dave Thomas in Wendy's commercials - nothing really gets checked off the to-do list, but it does have other advantages.

Also, as has been stated over and over and over - to others and in replies to you - DC has made it publicly known that while the monetary support is nice, it's not his driving motivation to make the game. His development team will shrink and grow based upon his own enjoyment/frustration with the progress. If he brought in $200,000 per month in donations - he probably wouldn't do much different than he's doing now. If he brought in $200 per month, he would shrink the team to just himself and develop when he has free time - and then updates will REALLY slow down.

 

[McSlut]

Personally - as a nonsubscriber - it doesn't bother me if this takes 2 months or 20 years.

that's great for you but i followed this project because i enjoyed playing it and would have liked to see it be finished during my lifetime. if you don't care about if the project ever gets finished why are you even here? just to write walls of texts and spam your faq?

If it bothers a person that it is taking this long of time and they are a subscriber, we have all advocated that they should stop donating. If it doesn't bother them and they wish to keep donating, that is their choice. They might get enjoyment out of watching the streams live or on VOD, they might see the value in what DC and the team are doing even if it is taking a stretch of time, they might just support DC's vision, they might simply donate as a way of saying thanks, or they might just be donating for no other reason that "meh, seems like a thing to do."

read my post again. this is why i was saying "if you care about this project (be finished one day) you should consider not donating again because this might be the only way to change how DC is working right now. if you enjoy just watching DC horse around on stream or get off of seeing him get rich by all means keep donating

s has been mentioned time and again, DC left his previous work partially because he did not enjoy working in a traditional game development firm (with project managers, etc) - so the idea that he might hire one to manage him is a non-starter. His doodling on the stream is a public relations activity as well as a way to have interactions with some of the fanbase - it should not be seen as some kind of productivity time that has its primary intent to advance the game content, but as 'facetime' that may result in content. Its like having Wendy's fast-food restaurant founder Dave Thomas in Wendy's commercials - nothing really gets checked off the to-do list, but it does have other advantages.

Also, as has been stated over and over and over - to others and in replies to you - DC has made it publicly known that while the monetary support is nice, it's not his driving motivation to make the game. His development team will shrink and grow based upon his own enjoyment/frustration with the progress. If he brought in $200,000 per month in donations - he probably wouldn't do much different than he's doing now. If he brought in $200 per month, he would shrink the team to just himself and develop when he has free time - and then updates will REALLY slow down.

yeah i know DC clearly doesn't care about money because he said so. if his donations drop to 0 he's just going to be like "you know what kids, we could have retired as millionairs in a couple years but you know what... it was more important for me to not hire a project manager who know what he was doing or pay a coder full time. i just had to follow my dreams you know. i'll also definitely will keep working on this game for free because i said so." that's totally what's going to happen

also please don't even bother to reply to me as i'm putting you on my ignore list for wasting my time. ok bye.

 

[Toasty_Sloth]

if you care about this game you should stop donating even if it's just 2$ or whatever. if enough people do this there might be change, for example DC might actually hire a project manager, employ a full time coder or at least he might pretend to actually work on stream instead of doodling for 2 hours or wasting 30 minutes talking to his team about where exactly to put a chair inside the bar and things like that. if progress continues at this pace the tech update is still not going to be out by the same time next year

I understand what you are saying as in DC becoming complacent getting money constantly even when he is stretching things out just doodling. I can say I am only donating when an update comes out which I think four came out in 2022 which I donated only a few times. If everyone started disappearing it would be a wakeup call definitely which may be the kick in the butt he may need, or just slow things down more before possibly quitting. Whether the donors stop like you say or just do the same as me donating when something enjoyable is presented we will never get enough to make a huge difference from the massive fanbase. The donors are going to donate as they want because it is their choice so no use whining and calling it a scam when it is as big as it is. The fan base is so big because DC has done so much right and not enough wrong in making this, I have enjoyed the content myself and what will be will be at this point. Most of the donors are not coming here to read about summertime when they are discussing it elsewhere this discussion might as well be a fart in the wind.

 

[Count Morado]

please don't even bother to reply to me as i'm putting you on my ignore list for wasting my time.

I'm honestly surprised I wasn't on your ignore list previously.

read my post again. this is why i was saying "if you care about this project (be finished one day) you should consider not donating again because this might be the only way to change how DC is working right now. if you enjoy just watching DC horse around on stream or get off of seeing him get rich by all means keep donating

You did not write out that full statement in your original post - to now state that you did is in error. You only presented your perspective "if you care about this game you should stop donating even if it's just 2$ or whatever. if enough people do this there might be change, for example DC might actually hire a project manager, employ a full time coder..."

All the rest in your revised history of your post is fabricated after the fact.

i followed this project because i enjoyed playing it and would have liked to see it be finished during my lifetime. if you don't care about if the project ever gets finished why are you even here?

And this is the heart of the contention for you and a good number of the others who complain about the speed. Guess what. The world does not revolve around you or your sense of entitlement. The game will get updates when it gets updates - no sooner, no later. Also, it is very obvious that DC will continue to develop this game until he thinks its completed, which most likely means when he no longer gets satisfaction of the the development of the game. It may never "be finished" to the definition that you have for it.



As I have mentioned previously, players need to remove the idea that these games will have an end and may go on for 20+ years like some television series.

Why am I here - because I do enjoy the content of the game. Just because I don't share your impatience about the progress doesn't mean I don't enjoy it. Also, because there are some people here I enjoy interacting with.

I'm not here to complain, whine, bitch, moan because I can't get my rocks off since DC hasn't put out new content - which seems to be the only reason why others come here.

Most of the donors are not coming here to read about summertime when they are discussing it elsewhere this discussion might as well be a fart in the wind.

Which is something we have said ad nauseum when the complaints come rolling in. Thank you.