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Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]
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- Mar 6, 2021
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if he doesn't intend to work on the game why is he collecting money for it? over 5 million and countingCookie didn't intend to do it anymore, still, time for pre tech 7
stone me for this statement
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- Mar 6, 2021
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wow he works 7 to 8 hours a week! so much hard work. LOL he works 32 hours a month an earns 61,680 bucks. so he makes 1927 dollars an hour off of 25,850 marks.
I know the updates take forever for this game, but at the end of the day, anyone who is a patron is willingly giving DC their money and can back out at any time. We're big boys and big girls here, so ultimately we are in control of what happens to our own money. SS is a great game regardless, and I'll wait as long as I need for an update to be ready without being rushed. Maybe the development isn't as efficient as other games, but no one has a gun to their head forcing them to give DC their money.
- Sep 29, 2019
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erm actually he just posted another wall paper 2 weeks ago so he is actually trying really really hard. now let me post 3 paraphs shilling for this game.
- May 1, 2017
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So because you seem genuinely curious here a summery of the train wreck that's been the tech update.
First thing to know is DC's really bad at estimating things like time and workload. He thought it'd take 9 months maybe a year so when he started expanding the backgrounds he did the majority on stream which he admits slows things down a lot like 2-3 days a background slow. While this was happening the posers had nothing to do and all 5 of the ones they hired at the start left the team during this time. Then came the great re-exporting where they found that due to DC not being consistent and lazy (His words not mine.) that tons of assets were mislabeled, broken, half assed or just straight up missing. Necessitating all 15k plus assets having to be re-exported and sorted one by one re-labeled and fixed as they went, my favorite highlight as revealed on stream is they found a whole batch of Eve assets that never made it into the game in the first place because they didn't even know they had them.
Now on to the posing which is a whole other beast because the entire game has to be reposed which means that all the posing for each past update is now an individual task this is also why it's been stuck at 80% as all the content heavy routes need to be finished which is taking so long Stray the coder built an auto reposer to do a lot of heavy lifting however it's not perfect and they still have a lot to do. This is what's holding up the coding in fact the other day they finally got enough of Debbie's route done that Stray could start recoding it. So no it's not that DC's milking or scamming it's that they didn't grasp just how much work there was and that's before all the set backs.
- Jan 30, 2020
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I'm sure this tech update will be worth the reversal of revenue growth and loss of potentiality hundreds of thousands of dollars. 
This is what I figured was going on. Usually it's either A)The dev doesn't have a grasp on work load time frames or B)The dev doesn't communicate well enough before release when it comes to ero games. I had a feeling that the tech update would last a really long time when the dev said it might take 9 months. The community was coaxed into supporting it but tech updates in the middle of development are almost NEVER a good idea. This is a big no no in the gaming world and the main reason why most of the heavy lifting is done prior to assets being created. Mainly because doing so might actually bankrupt a company if some big problem happens that adds years to a dev cycle. It was such a rookie move from this company. But it also seems like there is too much ego going on to just abandon the idea when they learned the scope of the problem and just continue making content until the game is finished and you can make a cleaner game next time.
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- Aug 23, 2017
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The game started out as a side project by one dude though. He only became a company when the game was big and profitable.I'm sure this tech update will be worth the reversal of revenue growth and loss of potentiality hundreds of thousands of dollars.
This is what I figured was going on. Usually it's either A)The dev doesn't have a grasp on work load time frames or B)The dev doesn't communicate well enough before release when it comes to ero games. I had a feeling that the tech update would last a really long time when the dev said it might take 9 months. The community was coaxed into supporting it but tech updates in the middle of development are almost NEVER a good idea. This is a big no no in the gaming world and the main reason why most of the heavy lifting is done prior to assets being created. Mainly because doing so might actually bankrupt a company if some big problem happens that adds years to a dev cycle. It was such a rookie move from this company. But it also seems like there is too much ego going on to just abandon the idea when they learned the scope of the problem and just continue making content until the game is finished and you can make a cleaner game next time.
- Aug 23, 2017
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The tech update will rework the code, give a new rig system for posers if im not mistaken and make the aspect ratio(?) bigger, meaning the black bars on the sides will be gone. It's all behind the scenes stuff and very technical, hence the "tech" update.
There will also be new art and locations implemented but nothing sexual as far as we know.
- Aug 9, 2018
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when was the last proper update we had coz i don't know if im wrong but it feels like a year ago now ?
- Jul 28, 2017
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Jesus, that is beyond catastrophic. Isn't DC supposed to be a game development veteran of several years? How the hell did he get away with being that sloppy for that long? Summertime Saga has been his full-time gig since early 2017, and even before then you'd think he'd know proper workflow and best practices. I'm astounded the current build even works as well as it does, his coders must be savants for trying to hold everything together with spit and chicken wire.
- Jan 30, 2020
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I think the second point is a little bit naive tbh. I mean sure, the people aren't owed anything from the devs. But also, the relationship evolves over time. Initially I think the patreon relationship is kind of like a startup; hopeful but if nothing materializes you can't really be too mad... But these long term patreon accounts with consistent development cycles more or less evolve into a service. It isn't exactly fair to call this game a startup anymore and treat it like it is immune to criticism. You have long term year long supporters who keep supporting because they are used to and come to expect semi-consistent updates and if the dev starts failing to deliver it is fair to call them out on that.
I don't think DC is milking/scamming anything, however, I also think they messed up big time and the anger is warranted.
- Apr 22, 2019
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The other big question is: will DC release the tech update together with Ronda update? I mean this famous tech update should improve the whole process and art is already done. However from the roadmap I highly doubt we'll see her in this current year and if not releasing x-wallpapers won't save the boat on the long way. He could just be honest about this delay and pause patreon, others have already done that, doubt he'll in any case.
- Jan 21, 2022
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That would delay the tech update further because while all the art might be done for the R(h)onda update - the script, posing, coding, etc definitely is not.
Except that again makes the premise that the contributions made by subscribers are paying directly for a product. They are not. They are making patron donations to support DC in continuing his vision - whether he releases anything or not. If they are under the delusion that they are paying for a product, they - themselves - should stop contributing. It is their choice just as much, if not more so, than his. He is doing what he is expected to do per the terms of how Patreon works - if there are subscribers which are under a different impression, that is their issue, not his.
This, honestly, is not a hard topic to comprehend. Patreon subscribers, unless directed by the artist/developer/creator/whatever, are not paying for a product, a release, or anything. They are giving a financial donation to the person because they like the work that the person has been doing and hope that person will continue in the future. Like I, and many others, have said - It's not very different from the sax player outside the subway entrance who plays for free for the commuters who walk by. They can choose to throw a dollar, or two, or twenty, or a hundred into the musician's hat or not. They could choose to do that each day, each week, each month, or never. It's their choice. The sax player may decide never to come back to that corner again even if a person has donated each day for five years. The sax player owes no one anything for the money people have donated. Same with Patreon artists/developers/creators/whatever -- unless the terms are presented by that person differently.
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- Jul 31, 2018
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There is and old saying that I am reminded of when I see devs like this.
"A fool and his money are soon parted."
"A fool and his money are soon parted."
yup. it's so common with porn games, yet people still keep paying.
- Jun 19, 2017
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It won't. By now it seems like this whole tech update (and to some degree the main story) as it happened will lose DC a massive amount of money. If he'd actually care about money, he'd have continued the trend and released updates to finish the game. That way he'd probably be making a very decent 6 figure number/month right now and could have moved on to the next project with his patrons pretty soon. And that's before we are talking about other ways of monetization.I'm sure this tech update will be worth the reversal of revenue growth and loss of potentiality hundreds of thousands of dollars.
People who claim that it's more profitable to go slow and/or milk patrons are just wrong. It may be the case for small devs who make a few thousand $ and have a real job besides that, but not for a project with such a huge audience and this much potential. In DC's case it's just a lost opportunity.
This slow development happens because DC doesn't really care about money, not because he's greedy.
Hm? DC certainly is a veteran artist but that's it. We've been following the game long enough to know that DC has had 4 different coders (including himself intintially) by now and that it's has indeed been more about trying to keep the game playable than actually having a real concept behind it. I still recal the times when every release was buggy (as hell) and saves weren't even compatible in theory. The tech update is supposed to change that - we'll see.
When it comes to schedules and workflows? I think the game would be quite a bit worse if DC couldn't just add stuff as he sees fit in general. A lot of these goofy little details etc. happen because DC "just does something" without it being on any schedule.
I'm personally quite happy that DC and Sploosh are claiming these freedoms, though the same shouldn't be true for coding and posing.
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