Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[CreativeCritic2]

I mean my overall opinion about the situation. He should of finished the game first, then he could do all this Tech Update stuff.

Right.

History proves that if a Dev finds themselves running up against the technical limits of their chosen tech-stack then they should start a new project as trying to re-code an entire existing project always ends badly.

I understand that different people make games for different reasons but, at some level, part of the fun is always going to be making creative decisions. Reworking a big project from scratch means committing yourself to months of work with few additional new creative decisions. It's just weeks and weeks and hundreds of thousands of words of grind because once you start messing with the creative decisions you made years ago, the game starts drifting and then you realise that you've only updated 10% of the original content and now you have to write a whole new game from scratch because you changed the characters or inserted new scenes and now the later plot and character beats no longer fit.

If a Dev ever finds themselves in the position of going 'damn... I would love to do X but this stack won't support it' then use that idea in your next project.

 

[Fayrus]

View attachment 3696973

Holy mother of all copes...

Hahhahaha my dear lord.................

 

[Dukill]

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 671, in execute_call_screen
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute_use_screen
Exception: Screen ('popup_generic',) is not known.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpyc", line 241, in script call
File "tl/pt_br/pt_br.rpyc", line 13, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1966, in execute
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1948, in call
File "renpy/statements.py", line 349, in call
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 671, in execute_call_screen
File "renpy/exports.py", line 3413, in call_screen
File "renpy/ui.py", line 301, in interact
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2165, in interact
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2687, in interact_core
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 480, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2687, in <lambda>
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 491, in per_interact
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 697, in update
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute_use_screen
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 1468, in use_screen
Exception: Screen ('popup_generic',) is not known.

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.1.24030407
Summertime Saga 21.0.0-wip.4468
Sun Jun 2 10:59:07 2024
```

 

[sometowell]

I think the last thing we should do now is hate the game. It has received a tech update and DarkCookie will now gradually bring back the old content in a new edition. Anyone who has played the old content will see that a lot has changed in terms of the story. For example, when you meet Erik for the first time, Mrs. Johnson comes out of the house and hands him the lunchbox. These scenes are drawn with great attention to detail. Or when you meet Mia for the first time in front of the school, how the picture then takes on a new perspective and you see Mia looking at the bus, then she turns around and looks at the main character. These scenes turned out great and correspond to the quality of a DarkCookie.

To be honest, I thought that DC would copy every scene 1:1, the fact that they are inserting whole new scenes into the story is just a great thing. And yes... DarkCookie took a long time and the update is still not completely finished. You can go into all the buildings, you can buy everything. It's basically been remade at the beginning, just with more content in the initial story.

Unfortunately, the Ronda update will come much later, if he now delivers the old content in a new version every 2 months. But then he'll at least have a basic framework and will then concentrate on the new storylines. And if he dares to do another poll about whether he should do a 4k tech update, then stop voting for it. We don't have DarkCookie to thank for the tech update, but his Patreons who voted for it and it got the most votes. So DC was just trying to implement what they "wanted". A game that was so far advanced... well... let's put it this way... it should have been clear to every Patreon that such a tech update would take time. With the new scenes, he has redeemed himself for me.

I've supported him again on Patreon. But... if he doesn't deliver in two months and it takes longer again, then I'll stop it immediately.

I have not seen someone with such low standards since crypto-bros

 

[Fayrus]

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 671, in execute_call_screen
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute_use_screen
Exception: Screen ('popup_generic',) is not known.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpyc", line 241, in script call
File "tl/pt_br/pt_br.rpyc", line 13, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1966, in execute
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1948, in call
File "renpy/statements.py", line 349, in call
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 671, in execute_call_screen
File "renpy/exports.py", line 3413, in call_screen
File "renpy/ui.py", line 301, in interact
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2165, in interact
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2687, in interact_core
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 480, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2687, in <lambda>
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 491, in per_interact
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 697, in update
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute_use_screen
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 1468, in use_screen
Exception: Screen ('popup_generic',) is not known.

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.1.24030407
Summertime Saga 21.0.0-wip.4468
Sun Jun 2 10:59:07 2024
```

Heresy!!!!!

 

[Count Morado]

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 671, in execute_call_screen
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute_use_screen
Exception: Screen ('popup_generic',) is not known.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpyc", line 241, in script call
File "tl/pt_br/pt_br.rpyc", line 13, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1966, in execute
File "renpy/ast.py", line 1948, in call
File "renpy/statements.py", line 349, in call
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 671, in execute_call_screen
File "renpy/exports.py", line 3413, in call_screen
File "renpy/ui.py", line 301, in interact
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2165, in interact
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2687, in interact_core
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 480, in visit_all
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2687, in <lambda>
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 491, in per_interact
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 697, in update
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 21, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute
File "pt_br.rpy", line 25, in execute_use_screen
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 1468, in use_screen
Exception: Screen ('popup_generic',) is not known.

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.1.24030407
Summertime Saga 21.0.0-wip.4468
Sun Jun 2 10:59:07 2024
```

Are you attempting to run one of the translation packs on v0.21? Translation packs probably do not work because the game has been recoded. The packs were created for the older version of the game. If you want to use a translation pack, download and play v0.20.16. Or wait until the volunteer translation community starts working on their own revisions to their packs under the new coding.

 

[Zohmbie]

GOD IS ALIVE AND HE JUST UPDATED SUMMERTIME SAGA

Edit: THIS UPDATE SUCKS ASS! NOT THE GOOD KIND! BOOOO!!!

 

[BorsDeGanis]

Right.

History proves that if a Dev finds themselves running up against the technical limits of their chosen tech-stack then they should start a new project as trying to re-code an entire existing project always ends badly.

I understand that different people make games for different reasons but, at some level, part of the fun is always going to be making creative decisions. Reworking a big project from scratch means committing yourself to months of work with few additional new creative decisions. It's just weeks and weeks and hundreds of thousands of words of grind because once you start messing with the creative decisions you made years ago, the game starts drifting and then you realise that you've only updated 10% of the original content and now you have to write a whole new game from scratch because you changed the characters or inserted new scenes and now the later plot and character beats no longer fit.

If a Dev ever finds themselves in the position of going 'damn... I would love to do X but this stack won't support it' then use that idea in your next project.

My honest opinion is DarkCookie hadn't the slightest idea what a tech update would actually look like in the grand scheme of things, but once you are years in, it's almost just a sunk-cost fallacy at a certain point.

 

[Count Morado]

GOD IS ALIVE AND HE JUST UPDATED SUMMERTIME SAGA

Your god is a false god.

 

[Respax]

This update doesn't make any sense at all... there are only added scenes and transitions (useless that could have been done without), mostly it's a downgrade since everything has been removed. But what's the point? Serious but what's the point? I remember that she was doing the story two years ago about one of her school friends, but apparently it was over. To then downgrade and focus on transitions that are not needed. I seriously don't find the point in all this, it didn't take a damn to add 2 or 3 sex scenes, and now that he also uses AI, that not even this big difference compared to his style would have had a huge advantage to complete it quickly. Bo, this patch makes no sense it's just stupid.

 

[Dukill]

Are you attempting to run one of the translation packs on v0.21? Translation packs probably do not work because the game has been recoded. The packs were created for the older version of the game. If you want to use a translation pack, download and play v0.20.16. Or wait until the volunteer translation community starts working on their own revisions to their packs under the new coding.

ok, thx

 

[Rickster82]

Has there been an official statement from this developer regarding the "update"?

 

[ScumbagJosh]

Just in case anyone was wondering here is a screen shoot of all Jenny cookie jar scene from the ''tech update'' and from the last full release prior since this was basically a Jenny update if you can even count it as such.

Tech update


Last Full Update


Why the fuck this claims to have Debbie content WITHOUT THE COOKIE JAR FOR HER! is beyond me.

 

[Count Morado]

Has there been an official statement from this developer regarding the "update"?

You mean this?

You must be registered to see the links

Or this (from a little more than a month ago):
From Chat: And they'll still complain about the parts not done.

Yeah, of course. But that's OK. Like, at least people will have their hands on the stuff and be able to, like, see what we're doing. You know, I think that's I think that's kind of like the most important and for us as well, like I don't like people who are already shitting on me every day, right, like. Like. What I'm saying is, like, I'm already getting shit on all the time, so like, more of that doesn't really affect me. Like if people are, you know what I mean? Like, people are pissed either way. Like. You know. People are going to be mad no matter what about how much is released or how much content is done or when it's released, or how much is released at a time. People are even pissed off if I'm not working on the content that they like, you know, like I could work on something. If people like "I want DC to work on this. I don't care about this stuff." You know, like people are mad and upset about anything and everything. So I don't care if they're mad that I'm gonna release the tech update into parts like. I don't give a shit like get more mad. They're already mad anyway, you know. So I don't really give a shit.

 

[Rickster82]

Am I actually seeing this correctly? Update 21.0.0 is basically a reboot and all saves from 0.20.16 are useless?

Also, this "new game" only has a few scenes at the beginning?

 

[Jacob2357]

Can anyone know how to unlock Erik's mom 2nd scene from gallery.

 

[T-dog]

Does the game force force close for anyone else during the eating Jenny out scene after spying on your neighbor?

 

[SinGen]

Idk how people even pay for this shit, i love how they are getting scammed actually LOL 2 years for a shitty update that doesnt make any sense and brings nothing to the game...

 

[mathluccas]

Does anyone (except this Count Morado dude who eats DarkCookie's turd for breakfast) actually believe the ''update'' wasn't released just to get rid of the abandoned tag?

 

[indria]

You mean this?

You must be registered to see the links

Or this (from a little more than a month ago):
From Chat: And they'll still complain about the parts not done.

Yeah, of course. But that's OK. Like, at least people will have their hands on the stuff and be able to, like, see what we're doing. You know, I think that's I think that's kind of like the most important and for us as well, like I don't like people who are already shitting on me every day, right, like. Like. What I'm saying is, like, I'm already getting shit on all the time, so like, more of that doesn't really affect me. Like if people are, you know what I mean? Like, people are pissed either way. Like. You know. People are going to be mad no matter what about how much is released or how much content is done or when it's released, or how much is released at a time. People are even pissed off if I'm not working on the content that they like, you know, like I could work on something. If people like "I want DC to work on this. I don't care about this stuff." You know, like people are mad and upset about anything and everything. So I don't care if they're mad that I'm gonna release the tech update into parts like. I don't give a shit like get more mad. They're already mad anyway, you know. So I don't really give a shit.

Oh wow i didn't know it was this bad for him, this changes everything, since he changed the "monthly payment" to "per episode" payment, he was in financial ruins for two years and he still delivered the tech update, oh wait....