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so apparently they didnt play the full scene because the sister was wide awake the whole time
I know right you can even tell she's awake and only pretending to sleep when her top is lifted...
I don't know some people just enjoy freaking out I guess, I'm sure DC has his reasons, he may have just not thought the scene was any good and wanted to replace it or something??
Hmm do you think we are off-topic or not? we were before but now we are talking about Summertime saga and this is a mod thread for that game so.... Hey wait a minute now we are in the Summertime saga thread OK when did that happen?
 

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but if we don't nip the sjw terrorists in the bud, they will only blossom and move into even more terroristic things! next they might take offense to ppl named ted!
OMG if the SJW's move into adult games like they did video games and comics and Star Wars... It's a game. Fantasy. It's absurd.

Get woke, go broke. If Dark Cookie actually does this, he's gonna have a bad time.

I don't know some people just enjoy freaking out I guess
They are outrage factories. If you give them an inch they'll take a mile. PC culture and identity politics really have no place in ADULT games. I can't wait for them to start demanding more people of color in Summertime Saga, and gender diversity... Are these critics actual patrons?
 

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Probably not no but some people just enjoy having things to complain about I guess and if the don't have any then they will find some.
Imagine if they found their way to EHentai or 4chan/h/...

I guess that's the downside to Dark Cookie being the #1 adult creator on Patreaon and #4 overall. He's a pretty big target for the PC Police now.
 
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There is a difference between having some kinky fun, and stabbing your best friend in the back. He could have the kink awakened in him by the crazy nun, and just enjoy it for fun, without actually being an ass. As far as her family goes, it could easily be argued that Harold is better off with his new partner than his old wife... Though that is another one we haven't had a shot at. :sneaky:

As for June, as I said, going after her, as long as you don't promise her to Erik first, it's fine. Could even take her out for a test drive before handing her over to him, make sure she is good enough for our friend! :p
As far as character consistency goes there really isnt.
If anything MC has shown a reluctance towards Dom&Sub play(Roxxy pretty much had to pressure him into it for rp and even then he keeps asking whether he should stop).
While I do have a feeling he will get some development in that direction in Annie´s part(which Im not particularly fond of,MC not being into every kink under the sun actually gives him some more personality,distinguishing him a bit more from your usual blank self insert)for now he hasnt and even the Helena deal seemed to make him uncomfortable.
Not to mention going that route would be out of character for Mia too as well as destroy her niche in the roster(ie innocent next door girl).

As far as the actual backstabbing goes,both cases are MC going to do something for someone and then doing the opposite contrary to his prior established intentions(and seemingly out of nowhere at that,which is why I dont think DC handles those branching points well at all)and while the destruction of Mia´s family certainly has worse repercussions(and no,I dont agree with the assesment that the "new status quo" is better,seemingly completely ignoring poor Mia,we know for a fact that the alternative works out fine and leads the pair back into a stable and happy relationship)that still doesnt change the fact its backstabbing.

Dont even get me started on that "test drive" thing <-< urgh thats just....ew.
 

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Guys, I understand that a lot of people are disappointed that Jenny's scenes are getting removed, but like, I don't think it has anything to do with SJWs. Pretty sure discord lit up after DC posted that he was getting rid of the scene. Tbh I never thought the scene was that great to begin with, and will probably be removed in order to make Jenny's storyline much better than it already is, not because it involves "rape," and certainly not because a handful of offended patrons cried about it on a streaming channel.
 

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As far as character consistency goes there really isnt.
If anything MC has shown a reluctance towards Dom&Sub play(Roxxy pretty much had to pressure him into it for rp and even then he keeps asking whether he should stop).
While I do have a feeling he will get some development in that direction in Annie´s part(which Im not particularly fond of,MC not being into every kink under the sun actually gives him some more personality,distinguishing him a bit more from your usual blank self insert)for now he hasnt and even the Helena deal seemed to make him uncomfortable.
Not to mention going that route would be out of character for Mia too as well as destroy her niche in the roster(ie innocent next door girl).

As far as the actual backstabbing goes,both cases are MC going to do something for someone and then doing the opposite contrary to his prior established intentions(and seemingly out of nowhere at that,which is why I dont think DC handles those branching points well at all)and while the destruction of Mia´s family certainly has worse repercussions(and no,I dont agree with the assesment that the "new status quo" is better,seemingly completely ignoring poor Mia,we know for a fact that the alternative works out fine and leads the pair back into a stable and happy relationship)that still doesnt change the fact its backstabbing.

Dont even get me started on that "test drive" thing <-< urgh thats just....ew.
I can agree with this for the most part. As for the whole "domming is out of character thing..." meh. People change their kinks all the time. Hand a girl a strap-on and she might discover she has a dominant side. As long as it isn't malicious, I feel like it can fit MC just fine. I agree that destroying Mia's family is a horrible thing to do in order to get at her mom though. That is totally out of character, even if it wasn't on purpose.
 

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I went to her office just like u said. and I obtained the master key. So that's it?
You should have gotten a scene where the principal is domming a guy and Ronda. If you're asking if that's the scene that was referred to in the changelog, then yes, that was it.
 

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As far as character consistency goes there really isnt.
If anything MC has shown a reluctance towards Dom&Sub play(Roxxy pretty much had to pressure him into it for rp and even then he keeps asking whether he should stop).
While I do have a feeling he will get some development in that direction in Annie´s part(which Im not particularly fond of,MC not being into every kink under the sun actually gives him some more personality,distinguishing him a bit more from your usual blank self insert)for now he hasnt and even the Helena deal seemed to make him uncomfortable.
Not to mention going that route would be out of character for Mia too as well as destroy her niche in the roster(ie innocent next door girl).

As far as the actual backstabbing goes,both cases are MC going to do something for someone and then doing the opposite contrary to his prior established intentions(and seemingly out of nowhere at that,which is why I dont think DC handles those branching points well at all)and while the destruction of Mia´s family certainly has worse repercussions(and no,I dont agree with the assesment that the "new status quo" is better,seemingly completely ignoring poor Mia,we know for a fact that the alternative works out fine and leads the pair back into a stable and happy relationship)that still doesnt change the fact its backstabbing.

Dont even get me started on that "test drive" thing <-< urgh thats just....ew.
Not really, sure he was reluctant, but he still did it, and was growing to like it, if the 4p scenes were anything to go by. Also, there was Ms. Dewitt, where he just starts smacking her ass out of the blue.
You completely missed my point, doing something kinky is one thing, but stabbing your friend in the back is a fucking asshole thing to do.
Get over yourself.
You should have gotten a scene where the principal is domming a guy and Ronda. If you're asking if that's the scene that was referred to in the changelog, then yes, that was it.
That was during the milk delivery. The key has to be done while she is in the teacher's lounge in the after noon.
 
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I think the Jenny removal stuff might fall under the same circumstances of removal as the incest stuff - credit card company rules.

An associate of mine worked in the porn business and he used to tell me all about weird porn rules done to appease credit card companies. One story I recall was having to remove a piece of footage with a girl getting felt up while she was "a sleep" because some standards and practices type could try and argue there wasn't consent at that point so he had to remove it.

DC becoming more popular might have brought on additional scrutiny from the platform.
 
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Not really, sure he was reluctant, but he still did it, and was growing to like it, if the 4p scenes were anything to go by.
You completely missed my point, doing something kinky is one thing, but stabbing your friend in the back is a fucking asshole thing to do.
Get over yourself.
I didnt miss your point at all(rather you seemed to have missed mine),its both random and OoC as far as the MC is presented otherwise.
The submission stuff from the beach scene played out between the girls,MC wasnt an active participent in those interactions so no real idea where you got the vibe he seems to be into doming(domning?domneering?are those even fucking words?)himself.

I can agree with this for the most part. As for the whole "domming is out of character thing..." meh. People change their kinks all the time. Hand a girl a strap-on and she might discover she has a dominant side. As long as it isn't malicious, I feel like it can fit MC just fine. I agree that destroying Mia's family is a horrible thing to do in order to get at her mom though. That is totally out of character, even if it wasn't on purpose.
They dont really,at last not without some development.
You dont start out reluctant towards a certain kink and then go firehose the next second.
If it gets introduced and developed,sure(though I still do favor him not being into absolutely everything)but without?Nah.
 

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I didnt miss your point at all(rather you seemed to have missed mine),its both random and OoC as far as the MC is presented otherwise.
The submission stuff from the beach scene played out between the girls,MC wasnt an active participent in those interactions so no real idea where you got the vibe he seems to be into doming(domning?domneering?are those even fucking words?)himself.
You forget him smacking Miss Dewitt's ass out of the blue as well. Doing something kinky is not out of character for a teen aged boy, most will do anything a woman wants if it will get them laid, and as others have said, you can learn to like thins you might never have tried. Many people like kinks that are completely opposite to their normal personality, many submissive people like to be dominant in the sack, especially when they are with someone who likes to be submissive. The best doms have been subs too. We have discussed this many times all ready in this thread.
What I said about the beach was him using verbal abuse with them, he does the same thing with Roxxy, he is new to it, but he can learn, you can see him starting to enjoy it. Dominating, domineering, dominant, they don't all mean exactly the same thing.
 
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I think the Jenny removal stuff might fall under the same circumstances of removal as the incest stuff - credit card company rules.

An associate of mine worked in the porn business and he used to tell me all about weird porn rules done to appease credit card companies. One story I recall was having to remove a piece of footage with a girl getting felt up while she was "a sleep" because some standards and practices type could try and argue there wasn't consent at that point so he had to remove it.

DC becoming more popular might have brought on additional scrutiny from the platform.
Brazzers actually ended up having to remove a bunch of scenes because of controversial content a few years back. You can still get them through "alternate" means, though.
 

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They dont really,at last not without some development.
You dont start out reluctant towards a certain kink and then go firehose the next second.
If it gets introduced and developed,sure(though I still do favor him not being into absolutely everything)but without?Nah.
I'm not saying that you do, but first of all, there was development, and second of all, I see no evidence suggesting that MC doesn't have a bit of a dominant streak in the bedroom. Sure, with certain characters like Mia he has a much more subtle approach, but with others he has exhibited dominant tendencies on several occasions. Also, when did he "go firehose?" With Helen?
 

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Does anybody know where i can find a download link for 0.16.1 on pc? I just finished .17.1 and I want to compare some of the old aunt animations from .16.1 to it, but i already deleted it. I've been searching this thread and googling for the past hour and can't seem to find it anywhere
 

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I think the Jenny removal stuff might fall under the same circumstances of removal as the incest stuff - credit card company rules.

An associate of mine worked in the porn business and he used to tell me all about weird porn rules done to appease credit card companies. One story I recall was having to remove a piece of footage with a girl getting felt up while she was "a sleep" because some standards and practices type could try and argue there wasn't consent at that point so he had to remove it.

DC becoming more popular might have brought on additional scrutiny from the platform.
I'm pretty sure Patreon content is more or less exempt from that. I'm no expert, but I would assume the porn industry ran in to problems through distributing channels, whereas Patreon content is supporting the artist, not necessarily the product. If someone tried to sell a game based solely around rape fantasy through a mainstream distributor I doubt it would get very far.
 
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