j4yj4m

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The initial update planner didn't include two updates for Jenny, so I have to assume that the content he initially planned is now spread across 2 releases.
Well, the intitial plan was likely to have what we've got for 0.18.0 and nothing more. As said, they did not remove any content from the 0.18.0 task tracker, so it's indeed hard to assume that they decided somewhere in the middle they'd split the update.
 

zeppelin

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Well, the intitial plan was likely to have what we've got for 0.18.0 and nothing more. As said, they did not remove any content from the 0.18.0 task tracker, so it's indeed hard to assume that they decided somewhere in the middle they'd split the update.
I don't really trust the task tracker as a lot of the things there seem arbitrary. For example, I strongly believe they keep artificially increasing the number of bugs just so that they have an excuse to release it next month after patreon donations go in.
 

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I don't really trust the task tracker as a lot of the things there seem arbitrary. For example, I strongly believe they keep artificially increasing the number of bugs just so that they have an excuse to release it next month after patreon donations go in.
 
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j4yj4m

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I don't really trust the task tracker as a lot of the things there seem arbitrary. For example, I strongly believe they keep artificially increasing the number of bugs just so that they have an excuse to release it next month after patreon donations go in.
Well, it doesn't make really make sense, since even those who do not donate a cent can download the game for free basically right away - give or take a couple of hours. So it's not like with all those other games where you'd have to be a patreon to play. If you want to stop being a patreon, you can just stop and will still get the game the same day as somebody who spends $20. But sure, if you think it's that bad, there's probably no need to even talk about it.

Edit: Just by the way, I'm fairly certain that the public bug/issue tracker will be connected to their internal system and thus will likely include everything a beta tester can find, from real bugs to small typos.
 

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You are aware that a "simple coder" is the highest paid member of any professional development team, right? More than artists, writers, modelers and in some cases even section leads make less than a programmer would on a projection. "Simple code" makes or breaks any and all game development.
Lmao no front dude but we ain't talking triple A here it's a renpy game, a monkey could code that or what do you think is the reason we have 3000 different games here using renpy as engine.
 

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Win???How old are you?A guy who says " as for the argument its my win " seems pretty dumb..and let the thread decide that part.Talking about $$$ eh?So you think pouring money on a living entity is the only way to get your demands fullfilled.Do i pay my Frnds College bill?No i dont.Do I pay their daily allowance?No I dont and yet i suggest or criticize about daily aspect of our lifes and he listens and acts accordingly.Why?Becoz He is smart and he is a frnd he doesnt just blindly follow them..he inspects them first..thinks about them and then implements them...Dont involve $$$ in everything! or else you will be surrounded by fake frnds and People and trust me you dont want that!
money is no issue its the what you give and get the SOCIETY in which we live in that dictates the outcome of how frequent we get things, if you pay for any good its your job as a consumer to either keep buying OR find something better, and if you don't believe in rights of a market that gives out what they make then find something better or whatever. I aint paying the dev for this game so why should ask them to pump out more? don't assume its a "right" cause dude ive worked and workers are human too. they are our family, friends, neighbors. we give a service that others are willing to pay for or not do so don't think im saying " i win" without giving you any chance. its basic just go to store and DONT pay and ask for more. they will laugh at you or call the police. so as ive gave you my thoughts via PM ill ask any person after now to give me ring and ill tell you the same DONT ASK THE DEV FOR MORE WHEN YOU AINT PAYING HIM. I could but ill look stupid so its either the devs who want to pump out more or not since I aint paying him. if I payed his pay check then id ask :p
 

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Nice joke. Do you really believe that?
yup,and if you actually looked the real arguments,not simply the ones which someone goes in honeycoating DC or talking shit about him in zealous way,you would know i'm not joking,but hey,i'm not judging,everyone have their right to think whatever they want....
 

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money is no issue its the what you give and get the SOCIETY in which we live in that dictates the outcome of how frequent we get things, if you pay for any good its your job as a consumer to either keep buying OR find something better, and if you don't believe in rights of a market that gives out what they make then find something better or whatever. I aint paying the dev for this game so why should ask them to pump out more? don't assume its a "right" cause dude ive worked and workers are human too. they are our family, friends, neighbors. we give a service that others are willing to pay for or not do so don't think im saying " i win" without giving you any chance. its basic just go to store and DONT pay and ask for more. they will laugh at you or call the police. so as ive gave you my thoughts via PM ill ask any person after now to give me ring and ill tell you the same DONT ASK THE DEV FOR MORE WHEN YOU AINT PAYING HIM. I could but ill look stupid so its either the devs who want to pump out more or not since I aint paying him. if I payed his pay check then id ask :p
This is kinda cringe...
 

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money is no issue its the what you give and get the SOCIETY in which we live in that dictates the outcome of how frequent we get things, if you pay for any good its your job as a consumer to either keep buying OR find something better, and if you don't believe in rights of a market that gives out what they make then find something better or whatever. I aint paying the dev for this game so why should ask them to pump out more? don't assume its a "right" cause dude ive worked and workers are human too. they are our family, friends, neighbors. we give a service that others are willing to pay for or not do so don't think im saying " i win" without giving you any chance. its basic just go to store and DONT pay and ask for more. they will laugh at you or call the police. so as ive gave you my thoughts via PM ill ask any person after now to give me ring and ill tell you the same DONT ASK THE DEV FOR MORE WHEN YOU AINT PAYING HIM. I could but ill look stupid so its either the devs who want to pump out more or not since I aint paying him. if I payed his pay check then id ask :p
You know what!I Quit ! Even in my Work Presentation i dont have to push my tiny cells in my brain so hard for such arguments.You win! and i accept my Defeat!:coffee::giggle:
 
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You know what!I Quit ! Even in my Work Presentation i dont have to push my tiny cells in my brain so hard for such arguments.You win! and i accept my Defeat!:coffee::giggle:
id buy a twinky every minute until they ran out... for you sir id buy a twinky factory and give you 1 out of every couple of billion that it makes lol. but id have to charge myself if I give you that lol gotta make the quota.
 

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if you get things for ZERO time and resources you put into seeing results ( in which im guessing some ppl are not stating they are involved in) do you really REALLY expect to see anything other than ZERO be in your hands that's worth just that? common sense talk now, and I mean this so put this as a tack: if you give your value which you hold in any sense do you expect what you receive in either less, equal, or greater value? if you enjoy or hate something and you get it without ANY sort of give then do you deserve more or less? in this thought don't demand for more because you haven't put anything other than time as a value. as for the argument its my win since I see nothing more than time being the excuse as for " I want to see more". I just want to know when, and not demand the now. also i said NEVERMIND ABOUT THE NUKE READ MY QUOTE.
i think you was the one who didnt gave too much thought about what i said,i just warned you about what you were asking to the moderators and how you were asking,in the end you atracted to yourself something i believed you didnt wanted,judgind by the arguments you traded just after...tried to warn you about that becuz its a cicle i'm seeing happen way to much lately,and will continue happening,becuz people take too seriously their own opinions about this...i'm here for some time already(there are people who are in for even a longer time),seem Boyka start as a fanboy from DC,saw the grumpyness attacks from PatreonTed,some legendary and lengthy text from Ungawa,had some fantastic discussions about future content and expectations with Devian,E-Dog, Jimmyshine and the former EveismyWife,and had some marvellous discussions with some people that sadly dont come around anymore...pardon me if i sounded condescending,but i saw a lot of things on this thread already,nothing new for an pre-release season but hey,you get used to it....
 
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if you get things for ZERO time and resources you put into seeing results ( in which im guessing some ppl are not stating they are involved in) do you really REALLY expect to see anything other than ZERO be in your hands that's worth just that? common sense talk now, and I mean this so put this as a tack: if you give your value which you hold in any sense do you expect what you receive in either less, equal, or greater value? if you enjoy or hate something and you get it without ANY sort of give then do you deserve more or less? in this thought don't demand for more because you haven't put anything other than time as a value. as for the argument its my win since I see nothing more than time being the excuse as for " I want to see more". I just want to know when, and not demand the now. also i said NEVERMIND ABOUT THE NUKE READ MY QUOTE.
LMFAO. Dude, just stop. I was laughing reading your response because it is clear you think you are some genius intellectual yet you cant even form a proper sentence. Seriously, your first sentence, if we can even call that a sentence is one of the most contrived, garbled things I have read on the internet in a while. That is saying something. You are trying to say something as well I assume but I don't think anyone without a decoder ring and a map would be able to figure it out.

It is clear you don't have a coherent response to your ridiculous argument and as I said anyone can have an opinion on anything they want. You have no say in that, zero, none, zip, nothing. Let that sink in, embrace it. Put that in your hands...

I thought about trying to translate whatever you wrote into a coherent thought but I fear it might make me go blind.
 

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Well, it doesn't make really make sense, since even those who do not donate a cent can download the game for free basically right away - give or take a couple of hours. So it's not like with all those other games where you'd have to be a patreon to play. If you want to stop being a patreon, you can just stop and will still get the game the same day as somebody who spends $20. But sure, if you think it's that bad, there's probably no need to even talk about it.

Edit: Just by the way, I'm fairly certain that the public bug/issue tracker will be connected to their internal system and thus will likely include everything a beta tester can find, from real bugs to small typos.
Most devs use the same excuses to delay the release after the 1st of the month because every start of the month experiences a fall in patrons.

If the game comes out before May or it comes out in May but isn't broken and full of bugs like it always is then I'll take it back and admit I was wrong.
 

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Can anyone share the incest patch and the walkthrough cuz the links in the op don't work...
This is the best patch from what I have seen and as for the walkthrough on the first page of this thread click the link that says wiki and then click the link on the left side that says walkthrough.
 
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LonDonJohnSon

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My theory is that he's pushing it back to the 1st or 2nd so he can get the Patreon direct deposit on the 1st. I get the feeling he changed something big, or added something that people are not going to be happy about, especially considering he's already stated he's removed the night-time rapey stuff with Jenny and is working on replacing it with more content for her route.

So here's a theoretical timeline:
-May 1st, the Patreon money hits and he has an idea of what the May money looks like, how many patrons are left, etc. etc.
-May 2nd, the update drops. "DC, you FUCK! You completely ruined the Jenny arc and cut all this content only to replace it with shit!"
-May 3rd, F95 and the patreon are a nuclear zone, DC says that he's working on the Eve update, it'll be huge, etc. etc. The numbers hit a big drop and gradually raise over the course of the next four month update.
-September 1st, repeat.

I don't know. SS is great, but if it wasn't for the writing, I don't know how many people would play it. One thing I've noticed in my years of playing lewd games, the writing is always either in broken English to the point of unreadability, or it's written in such a forced and fast way that you don't get the enjoyment out of the sex and progression that you should, because it's accessible so quickly. That's where DC succeeds. The game is well-written. The characters are fleshed out and have unique personalities and voices so recognizable that no voice work is even necessary. The scenes presented are made even more appealing because by the time you get to the good stuff, many times you've had hours with the character in question, and have gotten to know them. SS is written like the characters are more than just something to jerk off to.

By the same token, that art by itself makes me want to gouge my eyes out sometimes. Each one feels like a fetish character--way more so than most games of this type--while somehow STILL having almost the exact same huge tits and massive nipples and areolas. Mrs. Johnson naked looks so fucked up. June and Judith are both gross. The principal with her new look looks even worse than before somehow. All the characters look like fucked up balloon animals, with these overinflated tits, massive nipples, and bodies that just look...wrong. So it speaks volumes to the fact that he's managed to make this the NUMBER SEVEN highest earning patreon on the entire site. He needs to hire at least one more artist. There's undoubtedly artists out there more than talented enough to help him make scenes (especially given reference frames) who would LOVE an opportunity to work on the game. But, it's probably easier just to do things at his own pace and set himself up for a while, since there's tons of other patrons who flat out love the art, don't care about the wait, and don't care about the changes.
 

j4yj4m

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Most devs use the same excuses to delay the release after the 1st of the month because every start of the month experiences a fall in patrons.
Yes, but those devs make people pay to download their game and if you aren't a patreon, you won't get the game. Thus there's of course a strong incentive to get to the next month. That's not the case for SS though, since you'll get the game anyway, no matter wether you pay or not. There's just no incentive to pledge if you don't want to. You can stop paying at the 30th of april and still simply play for free on may the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or when ever the game comes out.

I get the feeling he changed something big, or added something that people are not going to be happy about, especially considering he's already stated he's removed the night-time rapey stuff with Jenny and is working on replacing it with more content for her route.
Well sure, one would hope that Jenny's route gets a complete rework, because as it is now it's the worst one in the entire game. The whole Somrak connection has to go and all those "trial and error" bed/shower stuff is really bad game design. Add, that most of her quests consist of simply buying stuff in the sex shop and one would really hope that he'll revamp it completely. I mean, it was efficient when he had to release fast updates in the beginning, but I really hope he'll raise it to the level of Roxxy and Diane.
 

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Yes, but those devs make people pay to download their game and if you aren't a patreon, you won't get the game. Thus there's of course a strong incentive to get to the next month. That's not the case for SS though, since you'll get the game anyway, no matter wether you pay or not. There's just no incentive to pledge if you don't want to. You can stop paying at the 30th of april can still simply play for free on may the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or when ever the game comes out.
And? That doesn't mean anything. Every month there's still a drop so the monetary incentive is to release it slightly after the pledges come in.
 

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Well sure, one would hope that Jenny's route gets a complete rework, because as it is now it's the worst one in the entire game. The whole Somrak connection has to go and all those "trial and error" bed/shower stuff is really bad game design. Add, that most of her quests consist of simply buying stuff in the sex shop and one would really hope that he'll revamp it completely. I mean, it was efficient when he had to release fast updates in the beginning, but I really hope he'll raise it to the level of Roxxy and Diane.
You're in luck.
 

LonDonJohnSon

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You're in luck.
Seems we're all in luck! Are you stopping by to offer any clarifications or just chillin while waiting for the rest of the things to be fixed before this update can be release?

Edit: I don't mean this to be a dick...I realize you are the only coder on a project like this, which is oversized in scale.
 
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