Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Omnikuken]

1 word : cheatmode. Skips every and all drama the game (or people around here) tries to implement

 

[Monstrous Moonshine]

You're right, but it shouldn't be necessary.

 

[Omnikuken]

They implemented it to give you the choice : normalmode, grind and whine > cheatmode, skip the drama and do whatever. People willingly choose to suffer/grind/whine with normalmode, nobody forces them to use it. On top of having to restart every few builds, it's really a nobrainer what to choose (lol nobrainer in this place, what irony)

 

[srksrk 68]

I love this game, but the goons randomly showing up and emptying your wallet (on your way to the bank no less) is so frustrating, unneeded and it doesn't add to the game-play at all. It just means you've wasted your time bothering to play a mini-game, only for the game to decide the meager amount of money you have anyway, is too much for you and it MUST be taken away. Imagine the amount of work that went into producing that scene, that could have been used to add content where it actually matters.

Also, high level Bratva aren't going to be milling about on the street taking chump change from teenagers, they aren't pushers, they aren't gangstas, they're GANGSTERS. Either have them act like the international criminals the game says they are, or have them act like gang bangers, pick one, it is tonally inconsistent.

As an afterthought, it also shows that your skill-points are largely a gimmick, that are only useful in very speific cases, rather than true skills that are consistently useful. Why not use your high agility to escape? Sure, they have guns, but they aren't going to shoot you in broad daylight in front of a bank. Or, why not use your high charisma to charm your way out of it? It isn't like they'd see you as a threat, only as a mere distraction. You could even use your intellect, perhaps in the form of perception, or deception? I mean, if you make your character so incredibly intelligent, why doesn't he act like it? Why is he so unaware of his surroundings that he walks into gangsters, without even a quick-time event? Skills need to be more useful and generalizable, otherwise they're just a gimmick.

I understand your feelings. But: it's there to add to the main story. One way to overcome that is using cheat mode, or with the same effect to save each time you are in the main city map. However, you can also deposit all your money in the bank and don't give them a dime, without any cheat. Once they rob you, you are safe for three days. So, without cheating, every three days put all your money on your bank account, then move around the map until they get you, don't give them a dime and be safe for three more days.

Your suggestions are quite interesting. But keep in mind that this is still a WIP. I was thinking to mod this specific aspect of the game, but with rollback enabled it really is no issue at all

 

[whosthatguy]

Skills need to be more useful and generalizable, otherwise they're just a gimmick.

Right now skills are just plot gates. You can't advance in the story unless you're strong enough to lift that wheelbarrow, smart enough to answer the teacher's question, charismatic enough to get past the girls blocking your way, etc.

In older dating sims, the skills were used to advance in a job (you can't be a teacher without this level of intelligence) or date a girl (this girl wants strong guys, but this girl wants charming guys.) Oftentimes you'd have to focus on one or two skills and leave the others as dump stats. In this game, all the skills are required eventually. I think the main issue is that he's now focussing on adding more girls to interact with and allowing you to have all of them, instead of having an endgame (finding the one girl to go to the prom/sorority ball with in a set amount of time.) If the game ever gets a win state, picking your skills might make more sense.

 

[sirviper235]

Quick question for anyone here. Am i remembering wrong or was there meant to be a girl in the game at some point that was already pregnant in school? I think i receall reading that somewhere but can't remember if i am right.

 

[srksrk 68]

Quick question for anyone here. Am i remembering wrong or was there meant to be a girl in the game at some point that was already pregnant in school? I think i receall reading that somewhere but can't remember if i am right.

Never heared that. Would have been interesting, though.

 

[sirviper235]

I am pretty sure it was a thing. That there was going to be a girl in the school that was already pregnant that players were going to be able to do stuff with and have a story over. I can recall something about this....Early on at least in this thread....

 

[sirviper235]

Maybe i'm wrong, but it could be interesting either way. Having a relationship with a already pregnant girl and finding love and enjoyment with her anyway and finding out how she got into this sitaution to begin with.

 

[sirviper235]

I mean...They could either make a whole new girl for it or maybe even use Judith for it. It could be honestly a really interesting new angle to explore. Use the idea/fact that well...Quite frankly nobody really votes for her or wants stuff with her as much as others do amoung the patron to have it so someone else 'got' to her first cause the MC 'took so long' to get to her with all the other girls. It could honeslty be unique and interesting to have Judith be built mainyl around pregnant sex and pregnant sex scenes and the like. But that's just me. I'm sure people will hate it and consider it NTR, but...hey.

 

[Omnikuken]

2 words : edit post

 

[Oriandu]

I mean...They could either make a whole new girl for it or maybe even use Judith for it. It could be honestly a really interesting new angle to explore. Use the idea/fact that well...Quite frankly nobody really votes for her or wants stuff with her as much as others do amoung the patron to have it so someone else 'got' to her first cause the MC 'took so long' to get to her with all the other girls. It could honeslty be unique and interesting to have Judith be built mainyl around pregnant sex and pregnant sex scenes and the like. But that's just me. I'm sure people will hate it and consider it NTR, but...hey.

So what, you're suggesting that she be locked out until the MC has fucked a certain amount of the other girls? Even ignoring the cries of NTR, locking a character out for the sole purpose of preggo sex is going to piss off anyone who voted for Judith. A better way to accomplish that would be to just have her impregnation rate be at 100% on your first time with her and to make that first time happen super early on her storyline. Have her simply not stop coming to school when she starts showing. That would accomplish way more than either locking her away until a certain point or giving her two radically different stories.

 

[Jhotayex]

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I can play this version script error

 

[srksrk 68]

I can play this version script error

I guess you mean that you can *not* play because of a script error. Post your traceback.txt file here.

 

[sirviper235]

So what, you're suggesting that she be locked out until the MC has fucked a certain amount of the other girls? Even ignoring the cries of NTR, locking a character out for the sole purpose of preggo sex is going to piss off anyone who voted for Judith. A better way to accomplish that would be to just have her impregnation rate be at 100% on your first time with her and to make that first time happen super early on her storyline. Have her simply not stop coming to school when she starts showing. That would accomplish way more than either locking her away until a certain point or giving her two radically different stories.

Thats not what i was saying tho.

 

[j4yj4m]

In the end Judith's story is already somewhat predetermined and it'll be about fixing her self confidence issues and about getting revenge for the bullying by the latinas. I mean, with Diane and Maria there are already two plots in which pregnancy plays a somewhat significant role, which should really be enough, given that the whole pregnancy topic already takes way more development time than it should.

I doubt DC will really chance is plans with Judith, while the chance for another new "major" schoolgirl is probably indeed zero.

 

[Omnikuken]

"Getting revenge on the 2 latinas" by using the infinite power of MC's dick

 

[Oriandu]

Thats not what i was saying tho.

Except it is what you're saying. The only way the MC can take too long is if she's not an option at the start of the game or she has two storylines. Otherwise Judith and DC would basically be punishing your character for grieving their dead father. "Oh you took to long, so I start to smash with that other guy." "But my dad was murdered." "Too bad. You took too long to get over it and now I'm pregnant with someone else's kid." is literally the only way your character being too late works. Especially in Summertime Saga world where pregnancy takes like a month. She's one of the least popular characters, she doesn't need two storylines.

 

[Omnikuken]

Aside that no dicking not involving MC will ever happen ..........

 

[Oriandu]

Aside that no dicking not involving MC will ever happen ..........

Tell that to the mayor and the mall washroom.