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j4yj4m

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Transwoman Eve? Who knows, that might be an optional scene down the line. There are a few here who might have seen something the dev team has said in regard to this.
As far as I recall Sploosh said that he would like to work towards it, but in his mind trans eve identifies as female and as such may be reluctant to be the active part? I'm not sure how realistic that is, but that's what I've heard.

Can anyone tell me if there is any impact planned from the Tony/Maria branch, where you choose for him the be present/absent from your impregnating efforts, is that purely an aesthetic choice? or are they planning on blocking more content depending on what you choose?
Also, I'm almost certain the Tony choice will have no further consequences.
The Tony choice is already implemented. If you let him watch, there's the option to have threesome with Maria and him later on. So in that case the choice is only there to protect those who can't stand another dick around from getting emotionally damaged.
 
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But it does make it so there are tons of continuity errors, which is annoying.
DC said multiple times that once the stories are finished, such things would get addressed as well. It just makes not much sense right now when everything is still in the flow.
 

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Easier definitely, Better is debatable,
Better if you want a VN, not better if you want a game. (Games need choices, but they need to be intelligent choices not these poorly thought out pieces of filler that most Devs are loading their games with (and I'm counting AAA games here too)
right now this is a VN and the existing branches don't really make sense.

A Branch making you choose between Eve and Roxxy could make sense because Eve would be genuinely upset to discover you were fucking Roxxy,
A branch making you choose between Mia and her mom is stupid IMO, because a brainwashed mom is perfect for reeling in her distraught daughter into some mother/daughter cleansing rites (having her father out the picture is a win/win situation in regard to corrupting her), a branch here would only make sense if it were a dark path vs good path.
And with what logic do you consider a woman willing to have a threesome with her son and his best friend, but wouldn't be willing to have one on one action with that same best friend when her son isn't around. and why can't Erik have a girlfriend and mommy/son time, whats good for the MC is good for his Bro!

Not my intention to reopen an argument that has been raging over the last few pages, just having a little rant at some of the things I've re-experienced after starting again from the beginning.

Can anyone tell me if there is any impact planned from the Tony/Maria branch, where you choose for him the be present/absent from your impregnating efforts, is that purely an aesthetic choice? or are they planning on blocking more content depending on what you choose?
Nope to a few points in there :

This isn't a VN. You can go do any route in any order and you won't miss anything by doing them at random. You're not locked into 1 while doing another (though you might get stuck if girl A is needed while doing girl B's route)

Mia/Helen together will never happen. Even if they remove the choice between the 2, you'll never get mom/daughter lewds
 
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Anyone got a fully modded version of this with all the extra mods and features in it already? Can someone just upload that for me?
 

Omnikuken

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Anyone got a fully modded version of this with all the extra mods and features in it already? Can someone just upload that for me?
Most mods don't work together, so nope. And why not just download what you want and not wait for some1 else to download then re-upload his junk ?
 
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Most mods don't work together, so nope. And why not just download what you want and not wait for some1 else to download then re-upload his junk ?
Yes. It's not that hard. The game is the biggest piece, modded or not. The mods are small and easily placed, even though, with the phone/wifi trick, you don't need some of them.
 

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Yes. It's not that hard. The game is the biggest piece, modded or not. The mods are small and easily placed, even though, with the phone/wifi trick, you don't need some of them.
Even when you remove the unnecessary unlocker mods/hacks and translations, you can't use all of the mods at the same time, and you wouldn't want to.
 

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Nice :)
I don't suppose you'd be willing to upload a zip or a torrent of this?
Oh yes, I just finished very late at 4 am because I had to upload everything again and I fell asleep haha, I'll upload it right now.
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j4yj4m

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Since when branching paths = good story?
Movies, tv series and most novels don't have that
Well, there's an obvious difference between a movie/series/novel/etc. and a sandbox game, right?

In your move/novel/etc. you aren't supposed to choose anything, but to simply follow the story. That's it. In games like SS on the other hand the player is able to pursue the characters he wants and to ignore those, he doesn't. To make that work without glaring gaps or bad outcomes, choices are a massive benefit. Without them it's actually quite hard to write that many different characters in a credible and somewhat interesting way. Especially once there are more than just a handful of characters involved.

I've mentioned Eve's case but you could just as well mention Harold. How on earth are you supposed to decent ending for him, if MC takes his (ex)-wife, girlfiend and daughter? Sure, you could just kill him off or make him some kind of asshole/loser, but I'd much rather prefer the chilled guy he is now either getting his wife back or getting a sweet girlfriend as alternative. It's just a way better plotline.
 

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Well, there's an obvious difference between a movie/series/novel/etc. and a sandbox game, right?

In your move/novel/etc. you aren't supposed to choose anything, but to simply follow the story. That's it. In games like SS on the other hand the player is able to pursue the characters he wants and to ignore those, he doesn't. To make that work without glaring gaps or bad outcomes, choices are a massive benefit. Without them it's actually quite hard to write that many different characters in a credible and somewhat interesting way. Especially once there are more than just a handful of characters involved.

I've mentioned Eve's case but you could just as well mention Harold. How on earth are you supposed to decent ending for him, if MC takes his (ex)-wife, girlfiend and daughter? Sure, you could just kill him off or make him some kind of asshole/loser, but I'd much rather prefer the chilled guy he is now either getting his wife back or getting a sweet girlfriend as alternative. It's just a way better plotline.
Exactly, you said everything I wanted to say here, at least someone understands.
 

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Well, there's an obvious difference between a movie/series/novel/etc. and a sandbox game, right?

In your move/novel/etc. you aren't supposed to choose anything, but to simply follow the story. That's it. In games like SS on the other hand the player is able to pursue the characters he wants and to ignore those, he doesn't. To make that work without glaring gaps or bad outcomes, choices are a massive benefit. Without them it's actually quite hard to write that many different characters in a credible and somewhat interesting way. Especially once there are more than just a handful of characters involved.

I've mentioned Eve's case but you could just as well mention Harold. How on earth are you supposed to decent ending for him, if MC takes his (ex)-wife, girlfiend and daughter? Sure, you could just kill him off or make him some kind of asshole/loser, but I'd much rather prefer the chilled guy he is now either getting his wife back or getting a sweet girlfriend as alternative. It's just a way better plotline.
You are just desparately trying to find arguments that prove your point, except that they don't imo. You say you want to make choices because you want to pursue one girl but not the other. So just do that: ignore the other. No need to force everybody else to do the same.
 

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You are just desparately trying to find arguments that prove your point, except that they don't imo. You say you want to make choices because you want to pursue one girl but not the other. So just do that: ignore the other. No need to force everybody else to do the same.
You're forgetting the continuity errors with how characters act though.
 

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You are just desparately trying to find arguments that prove your point, except that they don't imo. You say you want to make choices because you want to pursue one girl but not the other. So just do that: ignore the other. No need to force everybody else to do the same.
I think my point about for example Grace stands pretty well. In the end there should be a decision or you'll get outcomes which are quite unsatisfactory to anyone who actually cares. Sure, I know that many people don't really care about the story/details as long as MC gets some pussy. Though I have no idea why these play this game in the first place. There are so many games that would suit their taste so much better.

And no, I think the point is actually important for the game and I'll certainly continue to make it. It's not like I'm starting these discussions. You know that I'm following this game for quite some time and I remember being pretty annoyed when people started to push this whole harem idea on DC. Now we've got a situation where there'll be some elements of both. To me that's fine, but I really can't agree with those who want to push even further. It'll simply ruin at lof the atmosphere etc. this game stood and stands for.

You're forgetting the continuity errors with how characters act though.
These will always be there across different branches and I don't expect them to solve them. If somebody actually has to get as many girls as possible in one single playthrough, it's kinda his fault if things don't add up.

To me the main point is to avoid problems within branches, which is something DC actually seems to care for.
 
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I think my point about for example Grace stands pretty well. In the end there should be a decision or you'll get outcomes which are quite unsatisfactory to anyone who actually cares. Sure, I know that many people don't really care about the story/details as long as MC gets some pussy. Though I have no idea why these play this game in the first place. There are so many games that would suit their taste so much better.

And no, I think the point is actually important for the game and I'll certainly continue to make it. It's not like I'm starting these discussions. You know that I'm following this game for quite some time and I remember being pretty annoyed when people started to push this whole harem idea on DC. Now we've got a situation where there'll be some elements of both. To me that's fine, but I really can't agree with those who want to push even further. It'll simply ruin at lof the atmosphere etc. this game stood and stands for.


These will always be there across different branches and I don't expect them to solve them. If somebody actually has to get as many girls as possible in one single playthrough, it's kinda his fault if things don't add up.

To me the main point is to avoid problems within branches, which is something DC actually seems to care for.
Again, you want to prove your point with questionable arguments, this time claiming that whoever disagrees just wants to fap and does not want the story. I cannot disagree more. I like the story and I don't like branches. That's all there is to say. And again I ask: why not simply *not* making out with a girl as a free will decision instead of forbidding it to everyone?
 

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And again I ask: why not simply *not* making out with a girl as a free will decision instead of forbidding it to everyone?
Because that obviously massively influences the story/character? If every girl in the game agress that MC fucks every other girl in town the game just gets horribly one-dimensional. You can't have it both in this case. I'll just refer to Eve again, either you have a classical and rather deep romantic story with a nice built-up/finale or not. The devs of WaL! tried a compromise with Myrtles branch and it completely fucks her whole actually pretty well crafted story.
The only real alternative that's left is "to cheat" which is what DC and Sploosh decided for Grace (and Odette). That's fine to me personally, but I don't think it's what fans of Grace wanted to see and I'm sure it's the reason why she's pretty much neglected now.

I know it's just a porn game, but that shouldn't mean that we can't talk about these things. If you don't see a problem here, it's fine, enjoy. But don't blame me, if I do.
 
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