Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6705] [Kompas Productions]

[itsyeboii]

The "public demand" of people who are on F95 are not necessarily the majority, either. There are more people who donate to DC each month than who post in any of the Summertime Saga threads on F95. And unless you're on every SS thread on all the other sites, I doubt you're able to make that comparison logically.

Along with that, without a valid poll of opinions, just from observations of people who talk about their favorites in this thread, Debbie and Mia aren't even the favorites of the majority on F95. Sure, there are calls and requests - and they may make up a vocal significant minority - but there are many calls for many others, as well.

And as for your dig at only taking preferences from those who donate: why would anyone poll those who don't contribute a dime - they aren't helping to pay the bills? (that's a rhetorical question, btw)

Again, I don't think DC does things as properly as he should or with good project management skills and sometimes he gets over his head on things - but fallacious arguments don't advance shit except for shit's sake.

I never argued that Debbie or any character is public demand, because I can't know. I just said how it is, Patreon polls aren't even close to democratic. Not saying they should be, but people often use polls as an argument while it's a more useless statistic than a F95zone poll.

There's nothing wrong with votes only being handed out to people who contribute to the project, I don't know how my post implied anything else. Yet why do votes only get handed out to people who pay beyond a certain threshold? The reason for polls in the first place is to gauge what your supporters want, and putting that behind a paywall doesn't make much sense to me other than incentivizing people to up their monthly payment.

Personally I would at least give 1 vote to everyone who contributes period. And since DC totally doesn't care about money, why doesn't he do the same?

It's not that big of a deal, these polls are kind of redundant since all the content is planned to eventually be added and as always; DC can do what he wants and he isn't the devil for trying to make a living. But since you assumed a lot from my short post here we are lol

 

[j4yj4m]

There's nothing wrong with votes only being handed out to people who contribute to the project, I don't know how my post implied anything else. Yet why do votes only get handed out to people who pay beyond a certain threshold? The reason for polls in the first place is to gauge what your supporters want, and putting that behind a paywall doesn't make much sense to me other than incentivizing people to up their monthly payment.

Personally I would at least give 1 vote to everyone who contributes period. And since DC totally doesn't care about money, why doesn't he do the same?

Ultimately the polls don't really matter that much, as it's always DC who decides who is going to included and a such Patrons don't really decide the final content of the game by voting. If that was the case, I'd agree about giving votes to everybody.

I think it's fair to say that there are some people who like to give some more money and it's probably also fair for them to get a little bit more in return. The $1 tier is already really, really good compared to most other games and as such including polls would likely be overkill. I think there's a difference between "totally not caring for money" and "not monetizing the game as much as one could" or worse "being greedy". Of course there's some incentive for people to spent some money, but difference is that they don't have to do so to enjoy the game. Given how very few important polls there are, it would probably even be cheaper for those who care to just pay $5 for each poll and to not be a patron the rest of the time...

As long as we agree that DC is going to finish all of the important main characters, the polls are basically just a small luxury and not really essential.

At least I stopped caring about them quite some time ago, given that DC just ignores or repolls some of them anyway.

 

[itsyeboii]

Ultimately the polls don't really matter that much, as it's always DC who decides who is going to included and a such Patrons don't really decide the final content of the game by voting. If that was the case, I'd agree about giving votes to everybody.

I think it's fair to say that there are some people who like to give some more money and it's probably also fair for them to get a little bit more in return. The $1 tier is already really, really good compared to most other games and as such including polls would likely be overkill. I think there's a difference between "totally not caring for money" and "not monetizing the game as much as one could" or worse "being greedy". Of course there's some incentive for people to spent some money, but difference is that they don't have to do so to enjoy the game. Given how very few important polls there are, it would probably even be cheaper for those who care to just pay $5 for each poll and to not be a patron the rest of the time...

As long as we agree that DC is going to finish all of the important main characters, the polls are basically just a small luxury and not really essential.

At least I stopped caring about them quite some time ago, given that DC just ignores or repolls some of them anyway.

Yeah that's why I said that it's not a big deal.

 

[satanete]

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[Omnikuken]

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[ADuckInASubglacialLake]

Now, if you really wanna go trip over that minefield, we'll need to know why. Is it Annie, her notmom, Smith, the possible Bible Black stuff under the school, pure BDSM wetdreams or something else entirely ?

just want a wider variety of girls, but hey, BDSM is absolutely fine also XD

 

[TheVegnar]

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I do not remember this 3some scene... at all

 

[Count Morado]

I do not remember this 3some scene... at all

You don't remember this?

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[Omnikuken]

I do not remember this 3some scene... at all

It's been retconned into batch 4-ish, where you could get it by playing with the "start with new content" and go do Maria's route by allowing Tony to stay

You can still go get it by startting a new game or doing the route again and letting Tony stay around

 

[pr83]

It's been retconned into batch 4-ish, where you could get it by playing with the "start with new content" and go do Maria's route by allowing Tony to stay

You can still go get it by startting a new game or doing the route again and letting Tony stay around

This specific scene becomes available when you fuck her after having a baby and if you allowed Tony to stay the first time

 

[franky5555]

i'm still waiting to give judith the love she deserves

 

[Omnikuken]

This specific scene becomes available when you fuck her after having a baby and if you allowed Tony to stay the first time

You don't need to tell me that .....

i'm still waiting to give judith the love she deserves

Have fun waiting at least 2-3 years then

 

[mimoxd]

HI! good morning everyone
I know this must be a stupid question. but does anyone know or already managed to enable the return text button?
why there is no option to activate even in debug mod

 

[Deleted member 5184286]

remember when he first brought this up? he gave 2 options .. the tech update or some characters (judith i think?) update .. he openly said before the poll even started that the tech update could take up to a year.. and well.. ppl thought fuck yes... a year isn't so long ..so tech update won by a landslide (did it or did he just tell us it did?) and hence tech update.. "about a year" ... the results of the polls and the initial message about the poll have been put behind a pay wall.. yet here we are .. creeping on 2 years later.. with nothing but drip fed "content" and no actual update ... this is icstor levels of scams, without the excuses.... also screen shotting this before mods delete it due to "trolling" ..no trolling here.. just the truth..

 

[Omnikuken]

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remember when he first brought this up? he gave 2 options .. the tech update or some characters (judith i think?) update .. he openly said before the poll even started that the tech update could take up to a year.. and well.. ppl thought fuck yes... a year isn't so long ..so tech update won by a landslide (did it or did he just tell us it did?) and hence tech update.. "about a year" ... the results of the polls and the initial message about the poll have been put behind a pay wall.. yet here we are .. creeping on 2 years later.. with nothing but drip fed "content" and no actual update ... this is icstor levels of scams, without the excuses.... also screen shotting this before mods delete it due to "trolling" ..no trolling here.. just the truth..

Lol, guess the 6 batches worth over 30 scenes don't exist for you then and we apparently didn't get anything for those ~2 years.

DC streams ~daily and releases stuff every 3-4 months. ICstor didn't finish any of his ~4 games and dies every few months without releasing anything for years. Same thing 100%. And yes, enjoy the nuke. Your "truth" obviously is too much for the mods to live with

 

[McSlut]

the tracker hasn't moved 1% in almost a month. once that happens we will still have 20% to go and that doesn't even include the bug fixing phase. so the tech update might still be a year or even years away yet the last pre tech update was supposed to be the last one so what is DC going to do? i'm sure we'll get another odette scene with her being dressed as santa on christmas or something but what happens after? with no more pre tech updates coming and the next halloween being still a year away, could this mean we might get an easter update with odette being cosplaying as a bunny or are DC patreons fine with getting nothing for a year?

 

[KillerBee487]

the tracker hasn't moved 1% in almost a month. once that happens we will still have 20% to go and that doesn't even include the bug fixing phase. so the tech update might still be a year or even years away yet the last pre tech update was supposed to be the last one so what is DC going to do? i'm sure we'll get another odette scene with her being dressed as santa on christmas or something but what happens after? with no more pre tech updates coming and the next halloween being still a year away, could this mean we might get an easter update with odette being cosplaying as a bunny or are DC patreons fine with getting nothing for a year?

Well... i'm waiting for that odette scene. I will be really ingratiated if my eyes see Odette in Santa's wearing hehe

 

[thedemus]

Well... i'm waiting for that odette scene. I will be really ingratiated if my eyes see Odette in Santa's wearing hehe

Odette wearing nothing but a santa hat while the MC makes her his ho, ho, hoe.

 

[Omnikuken]

the tracker hasn't moved 1% in almost a month. once that happens we will still have 20% to go and that doesn't even include the bug fixing phase. so the tech update might still be a year or even years away yet the last pre tech update was supposed to be the last one so what is DC going to do? i'm sure we'll get another odette scene with her being dressed as santa on christmas or something but what happens after? with no more pre tech updates coming and the next halloween being still a year away, could this mean we might get an easter update with odette being cosplaying as a bunny or are DC patreons fine with getting nothing for a year?

By that pro logic, DC didn't do anything for most of the year since the art line has been around 98% since ~Feb

 

[ImTransAndTiny]

By that pro logic, DC didn't do anything for most of the year since the art line has been around 98% since ~Feb

People are gonna lose their shit when they find out that DC died in February when they run out of pre-recorded videos for the live stream. #RIPDC