APoc1

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Frankly you could Deus Ex Machina anything you want when it comes to Grace or any other character for that matter. Its not like the story as it stands now strictly follows any logic. Anon is banging more than half the town why bother with morals of any character ? It really would not be that hard to just treat Grace and Eve like the other mother daughter situations Same goes for Mia and Helen. Maybe once the Ronda update hits and you have to choose a date to the ball all of Anon's fun will have to end but wait.. he could have many children running around by that time , so yeah it's not like reality of any choices made are really going to factor in , in a meaningful way.
 

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Frankly you could Deus Ex Machina anything you want when it comes to Grace or any other character for that matter. Its not like the story as it stands now strictly follows any logic. Anon is banging more than half the town why bother with morals of any character ? It really would not be that hard to just treat Grace and Eve like the other mother daughter situations Same goes for Mia and Helen. Maybe once the Ronda update hits and you have to choose a date to the ball all of Anon's fun will have to end but wait.. he could have many children running around by that time , so yeah it's not like reality of any choices made are really going to factor in , in a meaningful way.
You still have Annie+Judith+every preg remake before the prom night ......
 

APoc1

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You still have Annie+Judith+every preg remake before the prom night ......
Exactly , kind of my point the game goes everywhere so why would it matter if you get to bang both Grace and Eve at some point you are going to choose one of the main girls and what happens to the rest and all your kids? there isn't enough logic in the world to explain that , so in steps Deus ex machina to explain away the "reasons" for how ever the game try's to end itself.
 

j4yj4m

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Becca catches Anon with her mom. If he's already fucking Becca, she tells Tina. Becca tells him to stop fucking her mom, and
Anon is cheating on every woman in the game, but no one insists on a branching system that will force him to be faithful to just one of them. Grace gets singled out because she feels bad about having sex with her sister's boyfriend. Based on no one caring about Anon sleeping with both Becca and Tina, or both Jenny and Debbie, I conclude that no one cares about the MC fucking members of the same family unless one of the women feels guilty about it. So, don't bother rewriting an entire major story line. Just make it so that Grace doesn't feel guilty! Everything would be okay if Grace didn't feel bad, right?
To me there are several points to make when it coms to that problem in general.

1. Do people care about single stories to be consistent within themselves and as such value that kind of consistency? It's clear, that a big sandbox game as SS, will never manage to be conistent across the board. But let's say somebody really likes a specific character, then he should be able to play that character's story without running into really bad writing.
As far as I see it, that's essentially DC's and Sploosh's position in this - at least as far as it's possible.
Those who really want to get every (possible) character in one playthrough will be able to do it, but they'll have to live with inconsistencies/gaps across different stories to some degree. I doubt that's ever going to change.
Yet, stories of connected characters like Eve/Grace/Odette or Mia/Helen/Yumi/Angelica ought to be consistent within themselves. And that's where Grace's troubles lie and that's part of the reason why she isn't getting more/better scenes right now.

2. Do you want charachters to have unique character traits or not?
Of course it's possible to write every character in a way, so everybody is totally fine with MC fucking every woman in town. But then you'll indeed limit the kinds of stories and characters you'll be able to use and the kind of endings you'll be able to get. If you finish the 9th main girl and you've arrived at "the same" polyamorous ending for the 9th time, it'll probably get a bit boring. You'll end up having dozens of characters, who of whom none feels jealous, guilty, etc.
Sure, it's the easy way out, but it's certainly not good for the game as a whole. At least I seriously hope that most of the main girls will have some unique trait to their stories/endings, which in a VN does of course have to include classical romance, too.

And that just leads to the problem, that there's some kind of classical romance where saying "ah it's fine, fuck whomever you want besides me" after overcoming all of these issues kinda ruins that part of that story.
I personally really liked that fact that Eve (as a trans girl) is the one who got a romance arc, opposed to let's say being a cuckquean like Roxxy or viewing MC as some kind of money making sexy toy like Jenny.

That's why proper branches are needed, as they enable better stories and more/deeper emotions, as you aren't limited by the fact, that you necessarily have to arrive at some "MC is going to fuck everybody ending" once you are finished.
 
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Haven't played in more than a year, is it worth to play or i should wait more tho?
I remember playing 6 months ago and I had a feeling it was finished already. If you look at the changelog you will see that Scenes have been added and bugs have been fixed and some would say it´s improvements or milking a cashcow. Could I recommend playing it? I would look at the reviews or if you were happy with the game more than a year ago and don´t mind the grindy parts sure you could play it.
 

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Haven't played in more than a year, worth playing now or should I wait for next update?
Haven't played in more than a year, is it worth to play or i should wait more tho?
Given that the tech update will introduce a ton of minor new content across the whole game, it's definitely better to wait and play once it has been released.
 
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I don't doubt what you say to be true, but shooting the breeze about ideas to make the game better (in our opinion) doesn't hurt anyone and sure is a welcome break from all garbage talk of milking.
Wetdreaming about stuff that are either 4-5 years away or have little chance of happening won't do much for the sanity of this place
 

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just wanted to chime in to say you are all insane.


Good luck
Just think you are only seeing the surface just imagine what lurks under the facade :sneaky: Oh and welcome to the club , chiming in grants you an automatic enrollment in the program , Lucky you!!! :giggle:

Wetdreaming about stuff that are either 4-5 years away or have little chance of happening won't do much for the sanity of this place
Wait there is sanity here o_O :LOL:
 

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Hello people, is there somekind of timeline or an approximative guess for the tech update?
I'm not asking a precise date, but do people think it's 3months away or more like 1 year away?

I wasn't following the game progress before this whole "Tech update ordeal", so i have no idea how long the past updates usually took. And seeing with the progress bar is 80% complete, i'd like to know how long those last 20 % should take approximatively.

Is it planed before this summer?
 
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cloud77777

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Hello people, is there somekind of timeline or an approximative guess for the tech update?
I'm not asking a precise date, but do people think it's 3months away or more like 1 year away?

I wasn't following the game progress before this whole "Tech update ordeal", so i have no idea how long the past updates usually took. And seeing with the progress bar is 80% complete, i'd like to know how long those last 20 % should take approximatively.

Is it planed before this summer?
No one has an exact answer as no expected release has been given by DarkCookie. In March, the tech update will officially have been in development for two years.

If I were to give an optimistic guess I would say another 4-6 months. The tracker only moved 5% from July of 2022 to now as tasks keep being added so don't get your hopes too high. Best advice I have is to just wait and find other games to play in the meantime.
 

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No one has an exact answer as no expected release has been given by DarkCookie. In March, the tech update will officially have been in development for two years.

If I were to give an optimistic guess I would say another 4-6 months. The tracker only moved 5% from July of 2022 to now as tasks keep being added so don't get your hopes too high. Best advice I have is to just wait and find other games to play in the meantime.
Ok so it could be anytime from April to August basically.
thanks for the reply.
 
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APoc1

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Ok so it could be anytime from April to August basically.
thanks for the reply.
It could be Apr 2024 too, the nature of this tech update makes the prospect of more and more tasks being added to the list so 20% could be a year or more out or things can run smoothly and maybe by the date you are projecting ( so far history does not support the runs smoothly theory)
 
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cloud77777

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Ok so it could be anytime from April to August basically.
thanks for the reply.
As an optimistic guess. yea. I believe the longest between updates ever was like 6 or 7 months so I would at least expect a status update in that time frame if it isn't released yet. Maybe he'll do another batch of new scenes to tide people over even though he said the previous batch was the last one.

Realistically it could be another year or more before it's out. It's hard to say without knowing exactly what they still have left to do and how much effort is going in to actually finishing it.
 
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