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Badjourasmix

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Wait was the last update really almost a year ago? For some reason I thought that he had released on of those updates with random scenes 3 or 4 months ago.
 

NeroMustDie

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Rapidly coming up on a year with no update... bet DC will drop the weakest update soon to make the numbers not look so ridiculous.
 

MurkyTurtle

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In what world would anyone think that's a good system. No wonder they kept finding assets they didn't know they had when they relabeled the whole thing.
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So like "MC_pose_1", "MC_pose_2", etc.? That's psychotic unless you have a cheat sheet the size of a billboard, and probably explains why the code was such a mess.

I guess in Dogeek's defense that was mostly before the rig system, so even if he'd used descriptors they'd likely need re-labeling anyways.
 

ogr blanc

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so, the next update is really gonna complete 1 year before release huh? i know people joked about it before but, is this it for the game? 1 year for a couple of scenes?

and yeah, i know its not only a couple, but still a full year. i remember when the game went multi month so there could be more content, but i also remember how the argument was, it was gonna do it so the game could have alot more stuff in it... and then the teachers update came and we got 4 sex scenes, 1 bj from one of the teachers, and i think a couple hjs.

so i get it giving it more time to deliver more stuff, but is this really it?

and is this next update finally make it beyond the pre-tech? or is 1 year the new normal?


i know people will read this as if im bashing the game, and i cant say im not, but im honestly curious as to the direction of the game. as, even though i was never a patron, i have played and looked foward to its content, but i've not touched it since, i belive the drumpf family update(i think it was called something like story 1 or 2).

so dont get me wrong, i do not want this game to fail. far from it, but when i look at games like 4 elements trainer, or love and sex: 2nd base, its kinda hard not to scratch my head in confusion why this one takes so long to deliver so little.
 
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so, the next update is really gonna complete 1 year before release huh? i know people joked about it before but, is this it for the game? 1 year for a couple of scenes?

and yeah, i know its not only a couple, but still a full year. i remember when the game went multi month so there could be more content, but i also remember how the argument was, it was gonna do it so the game could have alot more stuff in it... and then the teachers update came and we got 4 sex scenes, 1 bj from one of the teachers, and i think a couple hjs.

so i get it giving it more time to deliver more stuff, but is this really it?

and is this next update finally make it beyond the pre-tech? or is 1 year the new normal?


i know people will read this as if im bashing the game, and i cant say im not, but im honestly curious as to the direction of the game. as, even though i was never a patron, i have played and looked foward to its content, but i've not touched it since, i belive the drumpf family update(i think it was called something like story 1 or 2).

so dont get me wrong, i do not want this game to fail. far from it, but when i look at games like 4 elements trainer, or love and sex: 2nd base, its kinda hard not to scratch my head in confusion why this one takes so long to deliver so little.
1 year? The tech-update has been under development for two and a half years and will apparently be completed in three years.

Maybe I misread (since English is not my mother tongue) but what do you mean by 1 year?
 

j4yj4m

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sucks there wasn't a project manager/lead who knows what he's doing there to tell him that
Checking content related details wouldn't have been a project manager's job anyway. A team of effectively 3-4 people (everbody but DC working part time) developing a renpy porn game really doesn't need a project manager, you may aswell just hire a competent coder - who knows what he's doing - instead. That's what people should be complaining about in hindsight. Back then, the updates were primarily limited by DC's abilitly to produce art, so it didn't really matter that much. Then again, Dogeek left right after the Eve update, so I guess they caught on after these 3 updates that he wasn't able to handle the new project properly, which then lead to him complaing about stress, etc.

Edit: Just to add, I'm not saying DC shouldn't have hired somebody to pre-plan the tech update and to help to clean the mess up. He certainly should have done that. But that's a different question to what happened before.
 
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I can’t find the third book needed for french class homework, it says it is in dexter”s locker but it is not?? I talk to dextor at afternoon then go to his locker its still not there, any help?
 

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Checking content related details wouldn't have been a project manager's job anyway. A team of effectively 3-4 people (everbody but DC working part time) developing a renpy porn game really doesn't need a project manager, you may aswell just hire a competent coder - who knows what he's doing - instead. That's what people should be complaining about in hindsight. Back then, the updates were primarily limited by DC's abilitly to produce art, so it didn't really matter that much. Then again, Dogeek left right after the Eve update, so I guess they caught on after these 3 updates that he wasn't able to handle the new project properly, which then lead to him complaing about stress, etc.

Edit: Just to add, I'm not saying DC shouldn't have hired somebody to pre-plan the tech update and to help to clean the mess up. He certainly should have done that. But that's a different question to what happened before.
You don't necessarily need someone who's job is project manager but you always need someone who's job is to project manage. And this is what happens when that doesn't happen.
 
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You don't necessity need someone who's job is project manager but you always need someone who's job is to project manage. And this is what happens when that doesn't happen.
Would that really do much when the coders themselves don't work full-time on it?
That's the bigger issue, DC doesn't have anyone coding full-time.
 

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developing a renpy porn game really doesn't need a project manager, you may aswell just hire a competent coder - who knows what he's doing - instead.
Competent programmers who know what they're doing are a much, much harder find than project managers, though. Especially for a work on a porn game.
 
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j4yj4m

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Competent programmers who know what they're doing are a much, much harder find than project managers, though.
What would your average project manger do in this case? Monitor the schedule and dealines, which do not exist, because DC wants it that way? Report to superiors? Manage the money? Develope ideas? Define the scope of an update?

There's very little to manage that isn't either clearly DC's or any of the other dev's job. Unless people want to suggest that DC should litereally hand over the management of the whole game and become some kind of employee of someone he himself employs... that's not going to happen.

This game became the way it is, because DC often adds stuff he likes or that comes up while he's streaming. Why should he pay someone to stop him doing that, just so there's a higher chance the update's on time?

It's really not about management in this case, but about the fact that there was a lack of proper coding expertise and - when it comes to the tech-update - there seems to be huge shortage in menpower, which is something that should be criticized. But that has been clear for way over a year and you really don't need a manager to figure that one out.
 
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