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Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

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Yuki-x

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Kojj4 said:
This game will be 8 years old and its last update was about 1 year ago. this game smells like milking. i thought this game would be over by now but it seems i was wrong.
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As long as "cows" exist and throw their money away, this game (or every other patreon supported game) will never be completed (exceptions do exist but are rare).
Would you finish a project that gives you 60k every month and the only work you have to do is post some wallpapers and some statistics? I wouldn't...

DarKCookie simply exploited this to an entrire new level and found 30,757 idiots sorry I meant "cows" to milk.
 
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It's a shame that she never won any polls. The fact that the teachers got an update before her still surprises me. Compared to all the other girls in the game the teachers, for me aren't really that interesting.
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The poll voters aren't cultured enough for her
when i was subscribed i always voted for her but just gave up lol :/
 
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Yuki-x said:
As long as "cows" exist and throw their money away, this game (or every other patreon supported game) will never be completed (exceptions do exist but are rare).
Would you finish a project that gives you 60k every month and the only work you have to do is post some wallpapers and some statistics? I wouldn't...

DarKCookie simply exploited this to an entrire new level and found 30,757 idiots sorry I meant "cows" to milk.
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Thanks for those insights.

I don't want to take your illusion away, but by your logic, free software would not exist. But, hey, it does exist, and Summertime Saga is freely available.

I would say DC's problem is that he wants to transfer this game into a new one, instead of simply calling it done and create the Tech Update as a sequel. SS is one of the most complete and most finished games around. All it would have needed was to close some lose ends and start fresh. Patreons who support him now would support the sequel as well, even more since new content would come out much quicker.

Bad management decision, but to call someone who gives the game away for free a milker does not quite fit.
 
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You know. Something/injustice unlimited once had the same issues as this game does with taking forever to update. The diffrence was that game dev got a scare to get himself back on track. As his updates slowed to a crawl and delivered less content and was more buggy and broken.

Patrons began to leave and he saw a huge dip in them so he quickly jumped into action to salvage things and fixed up the game.

Sure things aren't great with it but it's betterish than it was and updates more often.and with mroe content.

I wounder if maybe DC got a scare like that with his patrons dropping in big numbers he'd kick it into high gear. As this update has taken far, far too long.
 
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half right, half wrong.

I agree its taking too long but not because he isn't working on it. It feels like the tech update forces not to only add new content (if there will be any) but also recode/redraw a lot of old parts of the game(and this game is already big as it is lol).

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srksrk 68 said:
Thanks for those insights.

I don't want to take your illusion away, but by your logic, free software would not exist. But, hey, it does exist, and Summertime Saga is freely available.

I would say DC's problem is that he wants to transfer this game into a new one, instead of simply calling it done and create the Tech Update as a sequel. SS is one of the most complete and most finished games around. All it would have needed was to close some lose ends and start fresh. Patreons who support him now would support the sequel as well, even more since new content would come out much quicker.

Bad management decision, but to call someone who gives the game away for free a milker does not quite fit.
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You are quoting someone who contributes a lot in open source programs in my free time (not with this nickname).

So my answer is simply:
Complete BS.
If you understood how developing an application or a game works you would not say any of the above.
IF DarkCookie really worked so hard he would simply release every 3-6 months an alpha or beta time-bombed version for his patrons to check the development and new features of their "investment".
He does not do that because the only work, that he does is writing statistics (that they cannot verify) and posting 1-2 images every now and then.
And I don't blame him. He found idiots willing to get milked and he simply provides the service they want.(y);)
 
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Yuki-x said:
You are quoting someone who contributes a lot in open source programs in my free time (not with this nickname).
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And you are quoting someone who has intimate knowledge of most, if not all the assets, and coding of this game because they have a very popular mod that they've been maintaining for 5 of the years that the game has been in development.

Oh, and it's under the username they post under - so there is no question to their credentials.

I love how people, such as yourself, who have no idea what the situation is in the development, what challenges a development team is facing, no clue what their full vision is for a release - somehow knows exactly what the developer needs to do be successful or get a release out in that person's preferred timeline.
for his patrons to check the development and new features of their "investment".
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And this shows your lack of knowledge of the situation. They aren't investing in anything. That isn't how Patreon works, particularly in DC's situation.

It is very explicit what subscribers get for their tier benefits and the game is not one of them. The schedule of releases is not one of them. What they have been promised for their subscription as tier benefits, they get.
 
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Count Morado said:
And you are quoting someone who has intimate knowledge of most, if not all the assets, and coding of this game because he has a very popular mod that he's been maintaining for 5 of the years that the game has been in development.

Oh, and it's under the username he posts under - so there is no question to his credentials.
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Sorry, I did not know that modding something is so hard. :LOL:
And with this nickname, I am probably the only one that can fully decrypt the enigma protector. So what is your point?
 
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