Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0-wip.5791] [Kompas Productions]

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SemenDaemon

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srksrk 68 said:
Bad management decision, but to call someone who gives the game away for free a milker does not quite fit.
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I don't get this "he's giving it away for free" thing
I mean he's getting paid for it through patrons (and making quite the salary) so he's not working for free by any means.
Giving it for free also doesn't mean he can't be purposefully lazy or purposefully bottleneck production. Not to say that he IS doing those things for sure. I get the "it's free" argument if people are a little too overboard and go apeshit with their whining but besides that misusing that argument makes it meaningless. Like people who call everyone a "bigot" or "idiot" for not agreeing with their bs takes.

ALSO I've already said this on here before but I'd much rather have this game on a marketplace like Steam and straight up pay a flat fee for it (believe it or not I have bought some of the games on here) because it would solve most of the complaints or hiccups or wtv with this game and people have the ability to review or refund. I don't understand WHY he's not doing that when there are so many NSFW games on Steam. I would like that for one.

Like you said it might be bad management but to completely rule out complacency, greed or malintent like he's some angel is fking weird. Dick riding weird. Just like assuming he's the most evil mf on the planet is weird. Hater boner weird. IMO it's a little bit of both.

Also I know I replied but this is not targeted to you personally I'm shitposting or ranting. I think that's the term? idk


Edit: I had to look up shitposting and this is not shitposting. "Trolling" was fine, why did they....
 
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SemenDaemon said:
I don't get this "he's giving it away for free" thing
I mean he's getting paid for it through patrons (and making quite the salary) so he's not working for free by any means.
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The fine print, so to speak, is important here. People paying DC aren't paying for the game access like they do for other developers. They pay him to create his art. You know in the old fashioned 'patron of the arts' way. Hence why the game is very much free on that technicality.

That it all funds the game is more of second nature as per the agreement between him and his patrons.

It is what it is, and arguing in this thread won't change that fact. No matter how often he's going to be called a milker, or a scammer, or whatever else flies people's fancy.

But hey, why not call the authorities on him if you guys think he's stealing people's money?
 
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srksrk 68 said:
I would say DC's problem is that he wants to transfer this game into a new one, instead of simply calling it done and create the Tech Update as a sequel. SS is one of the most complete and most finished games around. All it would have needed was to close some lose ends and start fresh. Patreons who support him now would support the sequel as well, even more since new content would come out much quicker.
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To be fair, ending SS at this point - without the missing content and without the missing reworks - would mean that it would stay a really flawed game by any means.

Given the way 2D games age and stay somewhat "timeless" if they are well made, he's got the chance to create a cornerstone of (mobile) NSFW gaming for many years to come - maybe even for decades. It's a once in a lifetime chance for him.

Sure, he'd likely make the same money creating a new game with regular updates, but I doubt it would ever have the same impact as SS did have and still does.
 
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Senigata said:
The fine print, so to speak, is important here. People paying DC aren't paying for the game access like they do for other developers. They pay him to create his art. You know in the old fashioned 'patron of the arts' way. Hence why the game is very much free on that technicality.

That it all funds the game is more of second nature as per the agreement between him and his patrons.

It is what it is, and arguing in this thread won't change that fact. No matter how often he's going to be called a milker, or a scammer, or whatever else flies people's fancy.

But hey, why not call the authorities on him if you guys think he's stealing people's money?
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that is a good idea, but will they try it is the question
 
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Senigata said:
The fine print, so to speak, is important here. People paying DC aren't paying for the game access like they do for other developers. They pay him to create his art. You know in the old fashioned 'patron of the arts' way. Hence why the game is very much free on that technicality.
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Yup. I agree.

This is not much different than donating to Public Radio or Public Television in the United States during their membership drives, and receiving a tote and a mug and a calendar (or a DVD!! Ooooo) for their generosity - so that everyone who wants to listen to Public Radio or watch Public Television without commercials and for free.

Or when you go to a free museum which is supported by the contributions of the patrons of the museum. They aren't purchasing the art or the displays or the interactive experiences in the museum, they are supporting the museum's efforts so that the public can enjoy it for free (or an at-will donation, if they so choose).

I'm not saying that DC is benevolent nor that he can't be lazy (in fact, he's been quite honest he doesn't like corporate deadlines and the like). However, knowing the correct analogy for comparison would go a long way to comprehending how the game is free for everyone to play while having patrons supporting a developer's work.
 
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lol dc lost quite a few patreons in the last few months never expected delusionals to retract from donating to a random XD color me impressed :'v

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SemenDaemon

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Senigata said:
You know, the guy lives in the US. Any member that lives in the US and is convinced DC is scamming people out of their money could just try to get him charged with fraud or whatever else would apply here.
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100% agree
But I mean that's not what I'm suggesting. I don't think he's scamming people lol.
 
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deskt said:
lol dc lost quite a few patreons in the last few months never expected delusionals to retract from donating to a random XD color me impressed :'v
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I think you're the one who is delusional. DC has been actually increasing paid subscribers over the past 7 months, not losing them. You're not the first in the past week to state this, I don't know who you both are following that are telling you lies. You should follow the yellow line:
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BTW, if it had shown a decline - I would have shown that as well to support your assertion.

His total funds received each month HAVE declined since their peak in 2021-2022. But, as of last known reporting, it appears that it is holding steady or slightly dipping in 2023.
 
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these threads be like:

Complainers that won't change anything

Dickriders defending the milking

and people making jokes lol

i pretty much forgot half of the story of this game so its gonna feel new by the time the updates are done.
 
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RT5X said:
these threads be like:

Complainers that won't change anything

Dickriders defending the milking

and people making jokes lol

i pretty much forgot half of the story of this game so its gonna feel new by the time the updates are done.
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Its always fun watching this thread. Because its usually in this order:
1. Someone complaining or someone making a joke
2. The same cunt literally being like HURR DURR "WeLL acTkChUuuLLy!!!!!!!!!!!!" :geek:
3. Then the obvious dickride that follows

Repeats in that order.
 
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