Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0-wip.5791] [Kompas Productions]

[SemenDaemon]

If you think the devs care enough about this site to bother making false reviews, you're dead wrong. Any positive reviews left are from people who sincerely like the game. The game itself is still held in fairly high regard. The shit show in the thread is because this mother fucker hasn't had a major update for like 3 years and when it finally does, it won't add any substantial new content.

If I think that? No I don't think that and I doubt many people do. So please keep those premade arguments for your shampoo bottles.

When you have an account with 0 activity for years that suddenly reawakens to post a 20 word 5 star review then disappears or one that was made the day of the review with 0 interactions on other threads that posts a 5 star then posts bait on this thread before disappearing I think it's safe to say it's not genuine.
You can agree or disagree. Our levels of skepticism and what we consider genuine don't have to be the same. My post was to tell those people that they're not slick with their alts not that DC is paying for fake reviews on a pirate forum.

 

[SemenDaemon]

Irony thy name is Insanatee.

I know the quote is much older but I always think back to this game

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

If I think that? No I don't think that and I doubt many people do. So please keep those premade arguments for your shampoo bottles.

When you have an account with 0 activity for years that suddenly reawakens to post a 20 word 5 star review then disappears or one that was made the day of the review with 0 interactions on other threads that posts a 5 star then posts bait on this thread before disappearing I think it's safe to say it's not genuine.
You can agree or disagree. Our levels of skepticism and what we consider genuine don't have to be the same. My post was to tell those people that they're not slick with their alts not that DC is paying for fake reviews on a pirate forum.

So, essentially, what you are saying is someone new to the forum liked the game and left a positive review.

 

[Badjourasmix]

I think it's important to criticise the "simping" mentality because it's damaging the ecosystem, it's just unhealthy in general. It's not the same as telling someone to do something or not to do something; it's just like sharing knowledge. We just shouldn't be rude about it, like calling someone a "paypig" for example. I believe that anyone can stop "simping", it's not a disease. It's important to buy and support things that deserve it and not to buy "marketing shit".
Some info here and here (dead game, not recommended).

Personally I just don't get the obsession some people in this thread seem to have with how much money he is making, when probably 90% of us never supported or will ever support the game. Do I think that he has done a very poor job managing the project? Yes, I do. But if people after all this time still want to support him, who am I to tell them that they are wrong? It's their money.
Also,what deserves to be supported is subjective. Just because I don't see the value in something doesn't mean others have to see it the same way I do.

 

[Ottoeight]

Is it actually okay in this forum to refer to paying Patreons as “paypigs”?
They are even compared to alcoholics who can't get off the bottle.
Personally, I have never supported THIS game, but others and I wouldn't like to read
someone calling me "paypig" just because I made the decision to support a developer or their game.
Ultimately, it is a personal decision whether and how someone spends their money.

And to call the update "vaporware" is not entirely correct in my opinion,
that would be it if there were only promises without proof of progress,
but DC releases new images, even streams him painting them.
There are also progress indicators on the website.
(I know this information may not correspond to reality)

Status as of March 22, 2024:
View attachment 3467907
(25 Changes in the last 24 hours - sounds like they're making some progress)

An incitement to stop all payments would result in the game being
developed EVEN more slowly or even being discontinued.

There are a few sentences in manneychin's post that remind me
of statements like those made by conspiracy theorists.

You know, I'm just imagining this scene with Cartman answering phone and telling "Summertime Saga go fuck yourself!" instead of "Washington Redskins go fuck yourself" right now:


And remember:

LET DARKCOOKIE DO NOTHING FOR YOU!

 

[SemenDaemon]

So, essentially, what you are saying is someone new to the forum liked the game and left a positive review.

Nope.

 

[naoligopraisso]

Why don't start one up, and see how it goes..?

If it's so easy to 'milk' as you think, you could be a millionare by now. Go get it done, you slacker!



Just to stay on topic: "Whens's theh next updade?!?"



Edit to add: "Which character needs the most new content besides the three who are in line for the next content updates (so, except for Rhonda, Annie, Judith)?"

Well, I would like Judith, Eve and Consuela to have more scenes, I know that Consuela and Eve have some scenes and Judith not, but it's more a matter of personal taste.
I don't know if you're telling me to start my own project and extract money from people so I can feel firsthand what DC goes through, but I don't think I have to prove anything, he has to do his job and deliver the updates, although ironically I had start my own project on renpy, with the programming and some artwork ready, but I gave up, I'm really too lazy for that and I don't think it's worth trying to take money from others with something that clearly isn't it's going nowhere, and before anyone says anything, no, this isn't a barb for DC it's just my own experience.

Once again, it's because the entitled whiny people here want more free content and they're mad they're not getting it; they lash out however they can at anyone they can in hopes of easing their hurt desire.

Once again someone feeling offended by people simply commenting on the obvious, and thinking that just because something is received for free it doesn't deserve any criticism.


"Oh my god, they are criticizing this developer who hasn't delivered an update for over a year, how dare they do that, how dare they say it's taking too long when they're playing for free on a pirated forum, how dare they say the creator doesn't give a shit for who is practically donating money to him, his probably are eating a croassant right now? Yes, but who's care."

 

[TFurguson69]

F95 will probably crash the day this game is open for the abandoned tag lmfao

 

[X[]-[]X]

The coding goes slow, so there's no reason for everything else to go at a decent or fast pace, as they depend on the pace of the code progress.

 

[Ifllslonly]

But if people after all this time still want to support him, who am I to tell them that they are wrong? It's their money.

Providing information to people and telling them what to do are two completely different things, don't you agree?
So here is an example. When you call a morbidly obese person healthy, beautiful and fit, are you doing them a favor? Or is it the opposite? If you tell the morbidly obese person nothing, are you doing them a favor? Or you're not helping them at all.

Also,what deserves to be supported is subjective. Just because I don't see the value in something doesn't mean others have to see it the same way I do.

Yes, it is subjective. So here is a question: What will happen to every single full-time adult game developer if every single supporter only supports Summertime Saga? Is it subjective now?

If you compare DC's work ethic to any other adult game developer, can you see the difference? If you can, you already have the value difference. It doesn't matter if it's an objective value or not.
By sharing your subjective value with people, you provide information.
By providing information, you're helping people to have their subjective opinions, and that's impossible without information, you see?
If everyone shares their opinion on any subject, you will have the "Law of large numbers" in action, and this will lead to the most objective opinion.

By ignoring your subjective opinion and not expressing it, you are telling people that you don't have an opinion, which is a lie and nothing else.

 

[Deleted member 3600196]

This will be the year you guys.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Nope.

So then, what you are saying is that its more likely that fans of DC are maliciously creating alt accounts to bolster reviews on a pirate forum than someone with a new, little used or privated account actually enjoying the game? You do know this game is a genre starting point for a whole lotta people, right?

 

[t4ewk]

Once again someone feeling offended by people simply commenting on the obvious, and thinking that just because something is received for free it doesn't deserve any criticism.


"Oh my god, they are criticizing this developer who hasn't delivered an update for over a year, how dare they do that, how dare they say it's taking too long when they're playing for free on a pirated forum, how dare they say the creator doesn't give a shit for who is practically donating money to him, his probably are eating a croassant right now? Yes, but who's care."

I never said you couldn't criticize DC. I'm saying the pages and pages of whining, retreading the same ground for MONTHS is annoying to get updates about when I come here to check on other stuff. I'm not going to sit and argue again, I've heard all the same arguments here forever.

 

[AdmKnives]

I never said you couldn't criticize DC. I'm saying the pages and pages of whining, retreading the same ground for MONTHS is annoying to get updates about when I come here to check on other stuff. I'm not going to sit and argue again, I've heard all the same arguments here forever.

You know how that gets defeated? DC actually does something worth all this time. It's been three years since the tech update started, at this point it really sounds like a lot of the defenders are just trying to justify throwing their money into a bottomless pit for no material return. For fuck's sake, DC removed the progress bar from the patreon for anyone to see; what else could that look like?

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Is it actually okay in this forum to refer to paying Patreons as “paypigs”?
They are even compared to alcoholics who can't get off the bottle.
Personally, I have never supported THIS game, but others and I wouldn't like to read
someone calling me "paypig" just because I made the decision to support a developer or their game.
Ultimately, it is a personal decision whether and how someone spends their money.

And to call the update "vaporware" is not entirely correct in my opinion,
that would be it if there were only promises without proof of progress,
but DC releases new images, even streams him painting them.
There are also progress indicators on the website.
(I know this information may not correspond to reality)

Status as of March 22, 2024:
View attachment 3467907
(25 Changes in the last 24 hours - sounds like they're making some progress)

An incitement to stop all payments would result in the game being
developed EVEN more slowly or even being discontinued.

There are a few sentences in manneychin's post that remind me
of statements like those made by conspiracy theorists.

Using the term is pretty much the same as calling yourself Anon, since they love to throw it around on 4chan. Together with cuck.

 

[luvthicc69]

Well, I don't write much on the forum, but I kinda remebered this game exists and wanted to look it up. Love what you did with the discussion here, btw.

My 3 cents:
I was finishing high school when developement on this game started in 2016 and it's been now 8 years (just last 3 years are spent on single upcoming patch). This patch is never coming out. Even if it comes out, it will be super underwhelming. This game is in development hell. I don't assume that they don't work on it, they probably do, but if you are putting effort into smth and nothing came out of it, did you really actually do anything?

I'm programmer myself and work for major fintech company and there is this crap called deadlines which this game doesn't have. That's what allowed it to be in development hell - nothing gets released, but money is pouring in. If you want it to ever be released just stop paying for it. The panic it will cause will suddenly make update possible.

Ofcourse it won't happen as well, because their revenue source is splint in 30000 ways and there is no way to make sure all of those people stop paying, so just move on, stop wasting your time and money and enjoy some other games.

 

[Xupuzulla]

F95 will probably crash the day this game is open for the abandoned tag lmfao

I hope the mods are ready,this game getting the tag is so important people talk about in other threads

 

[naoligopraisso]

Well, I don't write much on the forum, but I kinda remebered this game exists and wanted to look it up. Love what you did with the discussion here, btw.

My 3 cents:
I was finishing high school when developement on this game started in 2016 and it's been now 8 years (just last 3 years are spent on single upcoming patch). This patch is never coming out. Even if it comes out, it will be super underwhelming. This game is in development hell. I don't assume that they don't work on it, they probably do, but if you are putting effort into smth and nothing came out of it, did you really actually do anything?

I'm programmer myself and work for major fintech company and there is this crap called deadlines which this game doesn't have. That's what allowed it to be in development hell - nothing gets released, but money is pouring in. If you want it to ever be released just stop paying for it. The panic it will cause will suddenly make update possible.

Ofcourse it won't happen as well, because their revenue source is splint in 30000 ways and there is no way to make sure all of those people stop paying, so just move on, stop wasting your time and money and enjoy some other games.

Exactly, that's my point, in the meantime that the game began to be produced until present moment, a lot has happened for little real development, when I say that DC is incompetent it is not with the intention of offending him or his fanboys in this thread, but to highlight the obvious, 8 years, and the person cannot have a consistent work and distribution rhythm, and even after this tech update comes out, it will take even longer for any truly usable content to come out, since even From what I read, the tech update will not bring any new scenes, just changes to the game and the map.

Incredibly, there are still people here to say that whoever is giving money, it's not for the game itself, it's for the "benefits", a server on discord, some wallpapers (which everyone will have access to) playing in advance (since updates take time , so I can't even call it a benefit) and any other crap that I'm honestly too lazy to look for and read.

There's nothing left to say in this thread because there hasn't been any new content in over a year, literally you'll just read the same things:

Why doesn't this game have the abandoned tag?

When does a new update come out?

Is this game still being produced?

That's all that's left, and that will still take a long time to change, even after the launch of the tech, maybe this year there won't be a real update either, "ah but if you know that, then why are you commenting here, the author doesn't even read the comments on this forum" great, so you can just read my comment and let me be unoccupied alone, otherwise come and be unoccupied with me

 

[X[]-[]X]

Don't worry, guys, it will be completed in summer.

 

[Nullx54]

Don't worry, guys, it will be completed in summer.

Summertime Saga indeed.