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Jan 9, 2019
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Okay...

I usually just lurk and eat popcorn while all the "fans" fight among themselves about the state of the game.
I hadn't bothered to try the first WIP of 0.21 since Debbie and Jenny were just super old content that I didn't really care about anymore.

However, upon the new update -- I was curious to check it out. I started following SS back during the "teacher" update, so since it was reimplemented I thought maybe I could get a fair impression of DC's ambitions, and a sense of nostalgia because that's where it all started for me. I wanted to try to compare how I felt back then and where the state of the game is now...

I know that there is a lot of content missing... and I believe during the original "teacher" update there was already a lot of other side routes implemented -- so as far content is concerned, it will already start off lacking compared to the original "teacher" update.

I don't want to defend DC's work ethic. Some things seem very minor adjustments on the front end. But even from the intro screen. The game felt much smoother. I remember a delay in all previous versions when accepting the 18+ disclaimer. And there always felt some kind of latency when on the menu screen.

This could be because there's a lot less content to load, or it could also be attributed to something they did in the backend. So that's a bonus.

The only other thing I wanted to address, is that while there is a sure lack of content and minimal cookie jar scenes. I want to appreciate that there are a lot of additional scenes when introducing characters. These mini-cutscenes iirc were not in the any of the old versions. And I want to praise DC's team for trying to increase the quality of their storytelling.

Again, I'm not trying to defend DC just because a lot of these minor things might not feel much and usually shouldn't take a long time to code in... For all I know, they rewrote all the backend code... so effectively the only thing they could copy and paste from implementations were the dialogue. They may have wanted to do this so that reimplementing future cutscenes would be streamlined. It's always very annoying to have different parts of a game run on different code logic.

But not even 5 minutes into the demo... did I "feel" DC's ambition of making SS a much more well-rounded GAME. Not just another RenPy game with high quality art. We always praised SS for its art... and even its depth for its open world in comparison to others in its style. I think DC just wants SS to be lightyears away from any other open world VN.

I also think, lucky new players will still really enjoy SS. And they won't even know what they've missed. But they will feel the difference in quality of SS compared to any other generic VN...

I was just wow'd by Jenny's, Debbie's, and Mrs. Johnson's opening cutscene... and if every character gets this kind of treatment. I am excited! It's definitely not worth 2 years of waiting for something like that... but there's a lot of other things trying to be added. And I'm all for it.

I hope and wish DC continues his pursuits and eventually finishes this game.
GTA 7 will come sooner than this game will be finished
 

randommal3

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Oct 14, 2018
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so we can safely say that the previous wip update is compatible with the new wip version, right ?
i'm not going to re do the tedious route on this game(Jenny's).
 

RealistDemon

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Jun 21, 2018
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Since there is still no Incest Patch, I decided to make one. I'm not this game's dev. I should work on my own game actually, but eh I like Summertime Saga. You can check out my game, it's about Warcraft...
I honestly don't know what I am doing. I just decrypted the files and changed the text directly. Nothing fancy. Well I added one new event with Jenny : The Sister Experience. Even better than the Girlfriend Experience. But it doesn't seem very stable at the moment...
The mod replace any mention of Debbie so she's "Mom", sentences has been reworded accordingly. Jenny refers herself as your sister. It's not just "replace all Debbie by Mom", I tried to put more work than that.
Anyway, I only made this for myself, but I might as well share it, and we'll see how it goes. I hope some people will enjoy this quick mod

To install : Extract it in "game" folder

WARNING
The patch is not compatible. It will remove some new content to make room for the patch. Please let me a week or two before downloading this. Or just use it on the previous version
I need to know how to install the patch on my android game?
 

thissssaaaaa

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Jun 15, 2023
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Hi, I started this game, new file. Opted for unlimited money, and now I'm at a point where I can't make any progress,
The only characters that i could make progress with were the teachers, sister and mom. Even dianne wont trigger.
Do I start a new game, or have I missed something?
 

botka4aet

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Jan 13, 2022
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But not even 5 minutes into the demo... did I "feel" DC's ambition of making SS a much more well-rounded GAME. Not just another RenPy game with high quality art. We always praised SS for its art... and even its depth for its open world in comparison to others in its style. I think DC just wants SS to be lightyears away from any other open world VN.
There are a lot of ambitions devs
They wanna create GOTY game with good story, art, gameplay
But non of them do
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Count Morado

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Jan 21, 2022
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Hi, I started this game, new file. Opted for unlimited money, and now I'm at a point where I can't make any progress,
The only characters that i could make progress with were the teachers, sister and mom. Even dianne wont trigger.
Do I start a new game, or have I missed something?
You missed reading the changelog and the splash screen that is on the main menu of the game where it lists the available scenes for this preview of v21.0.0:
First day of school
Debbie's story
Jenny's story
Teachers' stories (Dewitt wip)
Judith scenes
 

bobfast

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Aug 1, 2021
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Honestly even as someone that really dislikes DarkCookie and what this game has become I dont think he actually is a scammer, the development process just screams of incompetency and poor leadership if anything.

Anyone who has ever worked on a project that involves multiple people and multiple departments will tell you if the person directing everyone has no clue and no focus the whole thing is destined to crash and burn and then be re-organized.

When this game started making a lot of money around 2018/2019/2020 I think it got to DarkCookies head, he probably thought the game could be so much more than it ever needed to be and if he hired more developers it could all be done so easily, lets not forget this game is technically "finished", the main story is at an end and realistically the only content that's really left to do is to update some of the older art and add pregnancy for a couple of characters - this game could've been fully completed 2 years ago and we would probably have a demo of the new game DarkCookie always wanted to make if he just kept it simple and focused.
 
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Qwasar

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Apr 20, 2017
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Since there is still no Incest Patch, I decided to make one. I'm not this game's dev. I should work on my own game actually, but eh I like Summertime Saga. You can check out my game, it's about Warcraft...
I honestly don't know what I am doing. I just decrypted the files and changed the text directly. Nothing fancy. Well I added one new event with Jenny : The Sister Experience. Even better than the Girlfriend Experience. But it doesn't seem very stable at the moment...
The mod replace any mention of Debbie so she's "Mom", sentences has been reworded accordingly. Jenny refers herself as your sister. It's not just "replace all Debbie by Mom", I tried to put more work than that.
Anyway, I only made this for myself, but I might as well share it, and we'll see how it goes. I hope some people will enjoy this quick mod

To install : Extract it in "game" folder

WARNING
The patch is not compatible. It will remove some new content to make room for the patch. Please let me a week or two before downloading this. Or just use it on the previous version
I can't make it work
 
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blackcat6667

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Oct 1, 2019
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I played this game 2 years ago and I was looking forward to playing the new updates, but I really don't want to start a game with easy money and stats.. And honestly it's kind of weird that they are working on a tech update and didn't implement money and stats from the beginning.
So either you play the old update and won't ever be able to play new contents because saves will never be compatible,
Or you play the new tech update and won't ever have a classic gameplay, like grinding a bit to have some money...
 
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